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re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys)
Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 3:05 pm
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Posted by Eric (6 messages posted)


problem solved. my motherboard was fried by a storm. i left one thing unprotected from surges, and that was the cat5 cable i had running directly from the wall to the onboard RJ45 port. anyways, i got a new mobo, and everything works fine now.


On Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 12:43 pm, Michael wrote:
>agp440.sys and it's predecessor in load sequence, mup.sys (multiple UNC provider
>- a networking component) are both notoriously shaky parts of the Win2k/XP load
>sequence.
>
>Contrary to MS limited KB articles on these two, there is no single cause, and no
>single solution. In my experience, the problem is worse with XP, possibly though
>not certainly due to the Windows Product Activation code and the way it monitors
>hardware changes.
>
>The most common problem is some form of hardware change - RAM, video card, CD, even
>changing the same cards into different PCI slots (I had this happen once when I moved
>a network card.)
>
>Electrical zaps can also occasionally cause problems, if they are severe enough to
>cause erasure or alteration of ROM'd data, but that's a fairly rare cause. Bad sector
>or file corruption problems in the related system files is also a possibility, particularly
>if users don't shut down properly or are forced to hard shut down because of a hang.
>
>In other words, almost any problem can cause load failures in these NT services,
>and the solutions are often just about as random as you can get. Don't expect that
>another user's problem is your problem, or that his solution will work for you.
>
>Despite the MS KB article's bit about video drivers being incompatible, I've had
>this problem occur when there's been no change in videocard and I have a current
>WHQL certified driver. The most recent case was from removing an Adaptec 29160 Ultra
>160 SCSI adapter and replacing it with an Adaptec29320 Ultra320 SCSI adapter.
>
>Some people commenting on this have slammed refurbished comps by some vendors, but
>this is not a specific vendor problem or a specific hardware problem - it is a persistent
>but intermittent problem with these particular Win NT services.
>
>If you have the original bootable CD and administrator password, you can play with
>switching these services off from the repair console, sometimes that helps, sometimes
>it doesn't.
>
>If you have spare hardware, you can tweak around with changing configurations around,
>sometimes the problem will be solved with a huge number of reboot attempts, and one
>time, the service will load itself successfully.
>
>In almost all cases (only one exception I know of), once you get it to boot, it will
>continue to do so.
>
>To avoid the problem when making hardware changes, if you go into the administrative
>tools (you need to have some understanding of NT services and which ones are essential
>and which can be stopped) and changed their modes from automatic to manual and start
>to stopped, you can trim down you 2k/XP configuration to a sort of "safer than safe"
>mode, then shut off and make your hardware changes.
>
>
>


Written in response to:
re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys) (Michael: Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 12:43 pm)

Responses to this message:
*re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys) (dz: Tuesday, March 2, 2004 at 2:13 pm)

All messages in this thread [show all]
-agp440.sys (kobie wilburg: Thu, Feb 14, 2002, 1:18 pm)
-re: agp440.sys (Peter: Tue, Oct 22, 2002, 12:09 pm)
-re: agp440.sys (Software Guru: Thu, Jun 12, 2003, 9:29 am)
-re: agp440.sys (Software Guru: Thu, Jun 12, 2003, 10:40 am)
*re: agp440.sys (Boris Svetnikov: Mon, Jun 16, 2003, 10:52 am)
-re: agp440.sys (David Straight: Mon, Jun 16, 2003, 4:41 pm)
-re: agp440.sys (mbioman: Sat, Jul 19, 2003, 7:10 am)
-re: agp440.sys (Eric: Mon, Jul 21, 2003, 7:04 pm)
-re: agp440.sys (mbioman: Tue, Jul 22, 2003, 6:55 am)
-re: agp440.sys (Eric: Tue, Jul 22, 2003, 10:48 pm)
-re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys) (Michael: Sat, Aug 30, 2003, 12:43 pm)
-re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys) (Eric: Sat, Aug 30, 2003, 3:05 pm)
*re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys) (dz: Tue, Mar 2, 2004, 2:13 pm)
-re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys) (John: Sun, Feb 20, 2005, 1:37 pm)
*re: agp440.sys (also mup.sys) (SD: Sun, Jun 17, 2007, 12:32 am)
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