I have a question about Getting Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) to work with PPPoE:

It is with great sadness that I report that it is apparently impossible to share a dial-up DSL PPPoE connection from a Windows 2000 machine to XP Professional and NT 4.0 Professional machines. Though I have seen the best instructions so far on this website, there are several pieces of data which are not addressed: Which connection is shared? I have Sprint/Earthlink DSL, which is set up as a Dial-up connection using software called WinPoET. This machine has two NICs. In my Networking and Dial-up Connections dialog, there are three (3) connections: 1) Intranet NIC 2) Internet NIC 3) Dial-up The Dial-up connection allows itself to be shared, and there is a dialog that lets you specify which connection is shared. But here is where the confusion is from, and I think it is from a lack of explanation, most specifically from Microsoft, about exactly what the hell it is that is supposed to be shared: Am I sharing my Dial-up connection? If so, which NIC do I choose? Am I just sharing the Internet NIC? If so, how in the hell is a client supposed to be able to dial the connection on demand? That is an option that is only available when sharing the Dial-up connection, something that is not addressed on this website. What the hell is being shared? It should be simple, but it is not. As you can probably tell, this is very frustrating. ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP PLEASE DO SO, I AM BEGGING HERE.

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Get rid of Win Poet. Go to http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~normanb/ and dowload RASPPPOE, Version 0.96. This software was written for W2K, whereas WinPoet was written for W9X & NT. The download includes detailed setup instrctions, including ICS. RASPPPOE is very stable & reliable.


On Friday, April 12, 2002 at 3:19 pm, Adrian Klingel wrote:
>I have a question about Getting
>Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) to work with PPPoE:

>
>It is with great sadness that I report that it is apparently impossible to share
>a dial-up DSL PPPoE connection from a Windows 2000 machine to XP Professional and
>NT 4.0 Professional machines.
>
>Though I have seen the best instructions so far on this website, there are several
>pieces of data which are not addressed:
>
>Which connection is shared? I have Sprint/Earthlink DSL, which is set up as a Dial-up
>connection using software called WinPoET. This machine has two NICs. In my Networking
>and Dial-up Connections dialog, there are three (3) connections:
>
>1) Intranet NIC
>2) Internet NIC
>3) Dial-up
>
>The Dial-up connection allows itself to be shared, and there is a dialog that lets
>you specify which connection is shared. But here is where the confusion is from,
>and I think it is from a lack of explanation, most specifically from Microsoft, about
>exactly what the hell it is that is supposed to be shared:
>
>Am I sharing my Dial-up connection?
>If so, which NIC do I choose?
>
>Am I just sharing the Internet NIC?
>If so, how in the hell is a client supposed to be able to dial the connection on
>demand? That is an option that is only available when sharing the Dial-up connection,
>something that is not addressed on this website.
>
>What the hell is being shared?
>
>It should be simple, but it is not. As you can probably tell, this is very frustrating.
>
>ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP PLEASE DO SO, I AM BEGGING HERE.

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I agree, dump as fast as you can WinPoet - you will be greatly joyed.


On Friday, April 12, 2002 at 3:19 pm, Adrian Klingel wrote:
>I have a question about Getting
>Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) to work with PPPoE:

>
>It is with great sadness that I report that it is apparently impossible to share
>a dial-up DSL PPPoE connection from a Windows 2000 machine to XP Professional and
>NT 4.0 Professional machines.
>
>Though I have seen the best instructions so far on this website, there are several
>pieces of data which are not addressed:
>
>Which connection is shared? I have Sprint/Earthlink DSL, which is set up as a Dial-up
>connection using software called WinPoET. This machine has two NICs. In my Networking
>and Dial-up Connections dialog, there are three (3) connections:
>
>1) Intranet NIC
>2) Internet NIC
>3) Dial-up
>
>The Dial-up connection allows itself to be shared, and there is a dialog that lets
>you specify which connection is shared. But here is where the confusion is from,
>and I think it is from a lack of explanation, most specifically from Microsoft, about
>exactly what the hell it is that is supposed to be shared:
>
>Am I sharing my Dial-up connection?
>If so, which NIC do I choose?
>
>Am I just sharing the Internet NIC?
>If so, how in the hell is a client supposed to be able to dial the connection on
>demand? That is an option that is only available when sharing the Dial-up connection,
>something that is not addressed on this website.
>
>What the hell is being shared?
>
>It should be simple, but it is not. As you can probably tell, this is very frustrating.
>
>ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP PLEASE DO SO, I AM BEGGING HERE.

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Here's the best answer you'll ever receive. Just do your self a favor and buy a router! This will solve all your problems and will allow you to share files as well as printers. Make sure you buy one that has atleast 4 ports for room to expand. There are so many more benifits you will receive with a router than a hub. For example, ie; the built in firewall. Good luck!!!!


On Friday, April 12, 2002 at 3:19 pm, Adrian Klingel wrote:
>I have a question about Getting
>Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) to work with PPPoE:

>
>It is with great sadness that I report that it is apparently impossible to share
>a dial-up DSL PPPoE connection from a Windows 2000 machine to XP Professional and
>NT 4.0 Professional machines.
>
>Though I have seen the best instructions so far on this website, there are several
>pieces of data which are not addressed:
>
>Which connection is shared? I have Sprint/Earthlink DSL, which is set up as a Dial-up
>connection using software called WinPoET. This machine has two NICs. In my Networking
>and Dial-up Connections dialog, there are three (3) connections:
>
>1) Intranet NIC
>2) Internet NIC
>3) Dial-up
>
>The Dial-up connection allows itself to be shared, and there is a dialog that lets
>you specify which connection is shared. But here is where the confusion is from,
>and I think it is from a lack of explanation, most specifically from Microsoft, about
>exactly what the hell it is that is supposed to be shared:
>
>Am I sharing my Dial-up connection?
>If so, which NIC do I choose?
>
>Am I just sharing the Internet NIC?
>If so, how in the hell is a client supposed to be able to dial the connection on
>demand? That is an option that is only available when sharing the Dial-up connection,
>something that is not addressed on this website.
>
>What the hell is being shared?
>
>It should be simple, but it is not. As you can probably tell, this is very frustrating.
>
>ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP PLEASE DO SO, I AM BEGGING HERE.

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Mike, You'll never believe this, but I installed a Linksys wireless router with a built-in firewall two days ago. Within 30 minutes my XP Pro machine, NT 2000 Pro machine, and NT 4.0 Workstation machine were all on the internet. Amazing. Thanks! Adrian


On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 11:41 pm, Mike wrote:
>Here's the best answer you'll ever receive. Just do your self a favor and buy a router!
>This will solve all your problems and will allow you to share files as well as printers.
>Make sure you buy one that has atleast 4 ports for room to expand. There are so many
>more benifits you will receive with a router than a hub. For example, ie; the built
>in firewall.
>Good luck!!!!
>
>

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Hey guys!! I am having the same problem that all of you guys are experiencing. Basically, I have a win2k server with 2 nic cards (1 directly connected to my dsl modem which runs the Enternet300 software for pppoe, and 2nd nic card connected to my LAN switch.) This computer acting as a gateway for my internal network can access ALL WEBSITE on the internet, however, all my other computer on my LAN, CAN NOT access ALL WEBSITES on the internet. My question to u guys is, should I be using the Enternet300 s/w or should I try downloading the RASPPPOE software? thanks for your time! alex


On Friday, June 14, 2002 at 5:13 am, Adrian Klingel wrote:
>Mike,
>
>You'll never believe this, but I installed a Linksys wireless router with a built-in
>firewall two days ago. Within 30 minutes my XP Pro machine, NT 2000 Pro machine,
>and NT 4.0 Workstation machine were all on the internet. Amazing. Thanks!
>
>Adrian
>
>
>

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I've had basically an identical set up. The problem is winpoet doesn't allow sharing. Call Earthlink tech support and they'll tell you the same. Enternet 300 is easier to set up than the RASPPPOE. I found mine from a friend who had service with PacBell.

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I have Enternet 300, and it was easy to set up but I have the identical problem when it comes to Internet Connection Sharing. I have been pulling my hair out for over three weeks trying to share the DSL connection with other Win2K Pro machines. Have you discovered something I missed?


On Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 2:55 am, Michael wrote:
>I've had basically an identical set up. The problem is winpoet doesn't allow sharing.
>Call Earthlink tech support and they'll tell you the same. Enternet 300 is easier
>to set up than the RASPPPOE. I found mine from a friend who had service with PacBell.

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Did you set up the DCHP thingy-majigger?

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I'm in the same position... I have followed the advice in this form re: DHCP and MTU. Client machines are assigned IP addresses in the range expected (192.168.0.x), the local LAN NIC is assigned 192.168.0.1... I have assigned the "external" NIC to provide ICS with the internal LAN NIC. However, the PPPoE appears to manage DHCP server. Previous attempts to have the PPPoE "virtual" connection did not seem to allow appropriate IP assignment to the internal machines. In summary I "see" two "external connection" one physical NIC and one virtual PPPoE. The NIC seems to allow appriate internal IP assignment whereas the PPPoE seems to do DHCP management. I can't make a single ICS sharing configuration to have both features appropriately managed.


On Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 9:36 am, Rick Scalf wrote:
>I have Enternet 300, and it was easy to set up but I have the identical problem when
>it comes to Internet Connection Sharing. I have been pulling my hair out for over
>three weeks trying to share the DSL connection with other Win2K Pro machines. Have
>you discovered something I missed?
>
>

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Using SBC/yahoo DSL with RASPPPOE and ICS on 2k with 98 shares and it works great. Much better than the enternet300 junk.


On Monday, November 11, 2002 at 12:15 pm, Alan Pedley wrote:
>I'm in the same position... I have followed the advice in this form re: DHCP and
>MTU. Client machines are assigned IP addresses in the range expected (192.168.0.x),
>the local LAN NIC is assigned 192.168.0.1...
>
>I have assigned the "external" NIC to provide ICS with the internal LAN NIC. However,
>the PPPoE appears to manage DHCP server. Previous attempts to have the PPPoE "virtual"
>connection did not seem to allow appropriate IP assignment to the internal machines.
>
>In summary I "see" two "external connection" one physical NIC and one virtual PPPoE.
> The NIC seems to allow appriate internal IP assignment whereas the PPPoE seems to
>do DHCP management. I can't make a single ICS sharing configuration to have both
>features appropriately managed.
>
>

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You know, it's odd- i'm using a host and client with Win2k Pro and after setting DHCP, MTU, sharing and even messing with static IPs on the client in sheer desperation, I STILL can't get RASPPPoE to share the internet connection. I was using the Enternet software before but there doesn't seem to be much of a difference if I can't get my ICS to work. I even went to ipconfig.exe and performed the /release and /renew actions. I'm beginning to suspect if Win2k Pro has a bug in it somewhere that screws up connectivity with another Win2k Pro machine.


On Monday, November 11, 2002 at 12:15 pm, Alan Pedley wrote:
>I'm in the same position... I have followed the advice in this form re: DHCP and
>MTU. Client machines are assigned IP addresses in the range expected (192.168.0.x),
>the local LAN NIC is assigned 192.168.0.1...
>
>I have assigned the "external" NIC to provide ICS with the internal LAN NIC. However,
>the PPPoE appears to manage DHCP server. Previous attempts to have the PPPoE "virtual"
>connection did not seem to allow appropriate IP assignment to the internal machines.
>
>In summary I "see" two "external connection" one physical NIC and one virtual PPPoE.
> The NIC seems to allow appriate internal IP assignment whereas the PPPoE seems to
>do DHCP management. I can't make a single ICS sharing configuration to have both
>features appropriately managed.
>
>

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I've been having some of the same problems (trying to share a Win2000 ADSL connection via PPPoE) but got pointed to www.raspppoe.com by a helpful tech support guy...very very useful (mentioned in earlier posts via a harder to remember URL). it comes with very clear documentation and I actually got my Win2000 ICS working with it after days of messing about....nuff said.


On Friday, February 7, 2003 at 8:31 am, Arlieth Tralare wrote:
>You know, it's odd- i'm using a host and client with Win2k Pro and after setting
>DHCP, MTU, sharing and even messing with static IPs on the client in sheer desperation,
>I STILL can't get RASPPPoE to share the internet connection. I was using the Enternet
>software before but there doesn't seem to be much of a difference if I can't get
>my ICS to work. I even went to ipconfig.exe and performed the /release and /renew
>actions.
>
>I'm beginning to suspect if Win2k Pro has a bug in it somewhere that screws up connectivity
>with another Win2k Pro machine.
>

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Well I've got the exact same problem, three Windows 2000 (one host, two clients) computers and trying to share the ADSL connection from the host to the clients. I'm using RASPPPoE on the host (which works), and I've been messing around for days on both the host and the clients without even seeing signs of ICS working :/ I can enable the ICS on the NIC connected to the ADSL modem (used by RASPPPoE to access the Internet), and all settings seem to be in order (even Internet Explorer's connection settings are ok), but both clients are not offline. I've got ZoneAlarm but shutting it down didn't work either. Is there anything I've not thought of that could hinder the clients from accessing the Internet?


On Wednesday, May 7, 2003 at 10:49 am, Simon wrote:
>I've been having some of the same problems (trying to share a Win2000 ADSL connection
>via PPPoE) but got pointed to www.raspppoe.com by a helpful tech support guy...very
>very useful (mentioned in earlier posts via a harder to remember URL). it comes with
>very clear documentation and I actually got my Win2000 ICS working with it after
>days of messing about....nuff said.
>
>

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When I was using a DSL provider called Telocity who in turn got bought by DirectTV 
who in turn dropped DSL service (thanks DirectTV!).  I then switched to PiloSoft 
(who sucks), and finally Comcast Cable (who also sucks).

In all cases, I've NEVER had to use any type of dial-up software.  Just had two NIC 
cards and the DSL modem plugged into one of the NICs.  

What is this PPPoE used for?  Why don't they a standard setup that all OS's can use?








On Tuesday, June 24, 2003 at 3:26 pm, Joakim Stai wrote:
>Well I've got the exact same problem, three Windows 2000 (one host, two clients) 
>computers and trying to share the ADSL connection from the host to the clients. 
I'm 
>using RASPPPoE on the host (which works), and I've been messing around for days 
on 
>both the host and the clients without even seeing signs of ICS working :/
>
>I can enable the ICS on the NIC connected to the ADSL modem (used by RASPPPoE to 
>access the Internet), and all settings seem to be in order (even Internet Explorer's 
>connection settings are ok), but both clients are not offline. I've got ZoneAlarm 
>but shutting it down didn't work either.
>
>Is there anything I've not thought of that could hinder the clients from accessing 
>the Internet?
>

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As far as I know, that's because your providers gave you a DSL modem with a built-in router, allowing you to direct access to the internet as if it was on your local area network (no dial-ups or raspppoe).. Anyway, I solved my problem by buying a router that supports PPPoE (3com OfficeConnect with built-in firewall) and got all of my computers online within 5-10 minutes - really easy! It also works as a hub for the local area network, so it doesn't use any more NIC's or wires than before - really recommended for those wanting to share DSL onto several computers ;)


On Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 3:24 pm, Ryan wrote:

>When I was using a DSL provider called Telocity who in turn got bought by DirectTV 
>who in turn dropped DSL service (thanks DirectTV!).  I then switched to PiloSoft 
>(who sucks), and finally Comcast Cable (who also sucks).
>
>In all cases, I've NEVER had to use any type of dial-up software.  Just had two 
NIC 
>cards and the DSL modem plugged into one of the NICs.  
>
>What is this PPPoE used for?  Why don't they a standard setup that all OS's can 
use?
>
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Gayle: Where have you been? Are you still alive? We've lost touch....Kay


On Saturday, April 13, 2002 at 5:57 am, Gayle Burrage wrote:
>Get rid of Win Poet.
>
>Go to http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~normanb/ and dowload RASPPPOE, Version 0.96.
>This software was written for W2K, whereas WinPoet was written for W9X & NT.
>The download includes detailed setup instrctions, including ICS.
>RASPPPOE is very stable & reliable.
>
>
>
>On Friday, April 12, 2002 at 3:19 pm, Adrian Klingel wrote:
>>I have a question about Getting
>>Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) to work with PPPoE:

>>
>>It is with great sadness that I report that it is apparently impossible to share
>>a dial-up DSL PPPoE connection from a Windows 2000 machine to XP Professional and
>>NT 4.0 Professional machines.
>>
>>Though I have seen the best instructions so far on this website, there are several
>>pieces of data which are not addressed:
>>
>>Which connection is shared? I have Sprint/Earthlink DSL, which is set up as a Dial-up
>>connection using software called WinPoET. This machine has two NICs. In my Networking
>>and Dial-up Connections dialog, there are three (3) connections:
>>
>>1) Intranet NIC
>>2) Internet NIC
>>3) Dial-up
>>
>>The Dial-up connection allows itself to be shared, and there is a dialog that lets
>>you specify which connection is shared. But here is where the confusion is from,
>>and I think it is from a lack of explanation, most specifically from Microsoft,
>about
>>exactly what the hell it is that is supposed to be shared:
>>
>>Am I sharing my Dial-up connection?
>>If so, which NIC do I choose?
>>
>>Am I just sharing the Internet NIC?
>>If so, how in the hell is a client supposed to be able to dial the connection on
>>demand? That is an option that is only available when sharing the Dial-up connection,
>>something that is not addressed on this website.
>>
>>What the hell is being shared?
>>
>>It should be simple, but it is not. As you can probably tell, this is very frustrating.
>>
>>ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP PLEASE DO SO, I AM BEGGING HERE.

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