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Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
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Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 1:52 pm Posted by Adam
(3 messages posted)
I have a question about Getting
Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers:
I want to network 2 PCs together. One is my older PC (running windows 2000 pro) and
the other is my newer PC (running windows XP home)
The XP computer is the main PC connected to the internet (dial up), and i have a
cross-wired cable between the two PC's.
However, when each PC is on, they do not talk, the LAN icon on the taskbar shows
that it is connected, and the lights on the network cards are glowing, but there
is no data going between the two. Each are setup to the same workgroup, so i dont
see why they arent talking?! Help?!
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 3:52 pm Posted by DEX
(11739 messages posted)
Adam
win2k high security ,xp med security
add the xp user name & password to the win2k machine and do the same thing to the
xp machine and then try it.
On Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 1:52 pm, Adam wrote:
>I have a question about Getting
>Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers:
>
>
>I want to network 2 PCs together. One is my older PC (running windows 2000 pro)
and
>the other is my newer PC (running windows XP home)
>
>The XP computer is the main PC connected to the internet (dial up), and i have a
>cross-wired cable between the two PC's.
>
>However, when each PC is on, they do not talk, the LAN icon on the taskbar shows
>that it is connected, and the lights on the network cards are glowing, but there
>is no data going between the two. Each are setup to the same workgroup, so i dont
>see why they arent talking?! Help?!
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Sunday, November 14, 2004 at 12:41 pm Posted by Merlin
(6 messages posted)
I had the same problem only I was using the 2000 to be the Host and the XP to be
the Guest. XP will recognoze W95,98, ME and another Xp but for some reason 2000
creates a problem and I could not find any documentation anywhere. This is now I
finally got it to work.
Start with the XP (host) Go the ControlPanel - Network Connections- Create a New
Connection- New Con Wizzard - next - check Accept Incoming Connections -next-Devices
for Incoming Connections - Direct Parallel (LPT1) -next - Incoming Virtual Connections
-check-Allow Virtual Private Connections- next Allow Users -check all of them - next
-Network Components (all of these must display in the box) Internet Protocol(TCP/IP),
File and Printer Sharing for MS Networks, Client for MS Networks, Deterministic Network
Scheduler -This was aready checked so I left it.
The Computer WORKGROUP Name "must be the same on both computers i.e. MY DESKTOP or
whatever name you choose. To check -Go to Control Panel -Systems - System Properties
Window- Networking Tab
When setting up the "Guest " compter (2000) you must enter the IP Address of the
Host computer. (Go To RUN type cmd - ok When the screen displays type - ipconfig
- ok the IP Adress will display.
2000 Computer - Start - Control Panel - Network Connections- New Con Wizzard - next
- NW Con type - check Connect To Computer at my workplace - Next - Create the Following
Connection - check Virtual Private Connection (VPN) -next - Connection Name - COmputer
Name (type a name i.e. Desktop) -next - Public network - Check "Auto Daial this connection"
Type in Desktop (The Host computer name) next - VPN Sever Connection - Enter Host
Computers IP Address i.e. 194.169.1.101 next- Finish
Rember that the file sharing on goes one way from Host to Guest so all the file on
the Host must be checked for Sharing.
TO see if the connection works go to Window Explorer on the Guest computer - My Network
Connections and see if Desktop or what ever you name it displays.
Once set-up you can also share a printer.
Good Luck
Merlin
On Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 3:52 pm, DEX wrote:
>Adam
>win2k high security ,xp med security
>add the xp user name & password to the win2k machine and do the same thing to the
>xp machine and then try it.
>
>
>
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 5:55 am Posted by Adam
(3 messages posted)
Ok, tried that, didnt work, surely though i want a ethernet connection not a parallel?
On Sunday, November 14, 2004 at 12:41 pm, Merlin wrote:
>I had the same problem only I was using the 2000 to be the Host and the XP to be
>the Guest. XP will recognoze W95,98, ME and another Xp but for some reason 2000
>creates a problem and I could not find any documentation anywhere. This is now
I
>finally got it to work.
>
>Start with the XP (host) Go the ControlPanel - Network Connections- Create a New
>Connection- New Con Wizzard - next - check Accept Incoming Connections -next-Devices
>for Incoming Connections - Direct Parallel (LPT1) -next - Incoming Virtual Connections
>-check-Allow Virtual Private Connections- next Allow Users -check all of them -
next
>-Network Components (all of these must display in the box) Internet Protocol(TCP/IP),
>File and Printer Sharing for MS Networks, Client for MS Networks, Deterministic
Network
>Scheduler -This was aready checked so I left it.
>
>The Computer WORKGROUP Name "must be the same on both computers i.e. MY DESKTOP
or
>whatever name you choose. To check -Go to Control Panel -Systems - System Properties
>Window- Networking Tab
>
>When setting up the "Guest " compter (2000) you must enter the IP Address of the
>Host computer. (Go To RUN type cmd - ok When the screen displays type - ipconfig
>- ok the IP Adress will display.
>
>2000 Computer - Start - Control Panel - Network Connections- New Con Wizzard - next
>- NW Con type - check Connect To Computer at my workplace - Next - Create the Following
>Connection - check Virtual Private Connection (VPN) -next - Connection Name - COmputer
>Name (type a name i.e. Desktop) -next - Public network - Check "Auto Daial this
connection"
>Type in Desktop (The Host computer name) next - VPN Sever Connection - Enter Host
>Computers IP Address i.e. 194.169.1.101 next- Finish
>
>Rember that the file sharing on goes one way from Host to Guest so all the file
on
>the Host must be checked for Sharing.
>
>TO see if the connection works go to Window Explorer on the Guest computer - My
Network
>Connections and see if Desktop or what ever you name it displays.
>Once set-up you can also share a printer.
>
>
>Good Luck
>Merlin
>
>
>
>
>
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 1:16 pm Posted by Merlin
(6 messages posted)
It is not an ethernet/token ring, it is a direct connection. You cannot use an ethernet
cable to make a direct connection between two computers. The ethernet cable has the
wrong pin setup. They both are the same size and will fit into network cards but
you need a Direct Connect Crossover or patch cable to make a Direct Connection work.
Merlin
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 5:55 am, Adam wrote:
>Ok, tried that, didnt work, surely though i want a ethernet connection not a parallel?
>
>
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 1:51 pm Posted by DEX
(11739 messages posted)
Merlin
Nope , just plug them into a hub/router or use software like Laplink,PC Anywhere
,ethernet cards 5 times faster than LPT port or 10 times faster than a ser.port.
with a cross over cable..or you can use the USB port with the gold cable that comes
with LapLink 11.5 in that way no hub needed...pc to pc fast 2.0 hook up..480bps
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 1:16 pm, Merlin wrote:
>
>It is not an ethernet/token ring, it is a direct connection. You cannot use an ethernet
>cable to make a direct connection between two computers. The ethernet cable has
the
>wrong pin setup. They both are the same size and will fit into network cards but
>you need a Direct Connect Crossover or patch cable to make a Direct Connection work.
>Merlin
>
>
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 3:09 pm Posted by Merlin
(6 messages posted)
When Adam asked the original question all he wanted to do was Direct Connect his
two computers. He is still using a dial-up web connection so speed was obviously
not an issue. Why would he want to spend the money for a hub or router and additional
software when he can just buy a $20.00 cable.
Merlin
On Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 1:52 pm, Adam wrote:
>I have a question about Getting
>Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers:
>
>
>I want to network 2 PCs together. One is my older PC (running windows 2000 pro)
and
>the other is my newer PC (running windows XP home)
>
>The XP computer is the main PC connected to the internet (dial up), and i have a
>cross-wired cable between the two PC's.
>
>However, when each PC is on, they do not talk, the LAN icon on the taskbar shows
>that it is connected, and the lights on the network cards are glowing, but there
>is no data going between the two. Each are setup to the same workgroup, so i dont
>see why they arent talking?! Help?!
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 4:30 pm Posted by DEX
(11739 messages posted)
hub 8.00 bucks ,lan cat5 cable 1.20ea. x 2 =2.40=10.40 or make your own cable for
80ea.x 2=1.60=9.60 total and you can just plug it in and your set to go with out
any other software if you don't want real speed.
if you are running win2k..
This will make a small network in about 5 mins.
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 3:09 pm, Merlin wrote:
>When Adam asked the original question all he wanted to do was Direct Connect his
>two computers. He is still using a dial-up web connection so speed was obviously
>not an issue. Why would he want to spend the money for a hub or router and additional
>software when he can just buy a $20.00 cable.
>Merlin
>
>
>
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re: Question about 'Getting Network Neighborhood to recognize newly attached computers'
Wednesday, November 17, 2004 at 2:08 pm Posted by Adam
(3 messages posted)
Network card (one) £10 (XP machine has one built in)
20metre Cat5 crossover cable £5
the feeling when i eventually get it working... priceless
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 4:30 pm, DEX wrote:
>
>hub 8.00 bucks ,lan cat5 cable 1.20ea. x 2 =2.40=10.40 or make your own cable for
>80ea.x 2=1.60=9.60 total and you can just plug it in and your set to go with out
>any other software if you don't want real speed.
>if you are running win2k..
>This will make a small network in about 5 mins.
>
>
>
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