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re: Comment about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?' Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 8:37 am Posted by DEX (11847 messages posted) Jeff Well you just need to use the right tools to do what you want to do. If you want to flash the BIOS use a win98se boot disk or just about any boot disk will do it. The boot disk will over ride Anything that's on the HD. Then put in your BIOS flash disk in and run it. . You can also do it from a boot cd if you want, some of the new machine don't come with a floppy disk anymore. -------------------- Items that are TSR need to have a OS to load them up into ram. ----------------- Use msconfig or Startup CPL to stop any program from loading up at boot ( into memory/ram) ----------------------- "Not EVERYONE has windows-based BIOS " = No windows base BIOS that I know about . BIOS is chip on the MB that can be changed at will from the BIOS setup. --------------------- DOS is dead in a way because most of the programs need RAM to run and DOS just can't give the machine the full ram to run the programs . You can run many of the old DOS base programs if you have DOS installed on your machine in it's own partition. "your RAM with Microsoft's utility? guess what, it doesn't run in *Windows* ...." = you should not test ram in windows. Download this cd ,it will test your ram. and it's free. Ultimate Boot CD with MANY tools on it. From: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ Or http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4019 Hope this helps a bit. Have a good one On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 8:20 am, Jeff Kane wrote: >I have a comment about How >do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?: >Author said "DOS is dead, Windows did right, get over it" or words to that effect. > >The only problem with this is that DOS is still useful for many things that Windows >isn't. Ever try deleting a file in memory that won't quit via Task Manager End Process? > >How about flashing the BIOS on a peripheral? Not EVERYONE has windows-based BIOS >flash utilities, especially not for motherboards. > >Right now I have Windows2000, and it seems I'm unable to flash any bios, because >there is no way to get to a straight command prompt to do it. > >So, until Windows becomes a fully-featured GUI, we still need DOS. P.S. - ever test >your RAM with Microsoft's utility? guess what, it doesn't run in *Windows* .... > >Windows isn't complete enough to justify abandoning DOS yet. Get over it. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Clarification on 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?' Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 8:58 am Posted by Kiwi (2228 messages posted) I would have to say that with an up to date BIOS on a modern, full-featured system, the original article would not be so overly optimistic after all. However, if you or your limited budget made the choice to buy a "budget" grade system, doing so has its built-in tribulations. Older and minimum-feature set systems do require DOS for flashing the BIOS, if indeed a BIOS flash is actually required. I've got a system here with a three year old system board in it that includes both an online Flash upgrade (within the OS) and also a Windows level access to a second Flash procedure, if the online procedure doesn't work out. I've had a newer, less expensive system that I built here for a relative that didn't start out able to do the flash "live", but did acquire it from flashing it the crude, old DOS level way. . Kiwi ** On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 8:20 am, Jeff Kane wrote: >I have a comment [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Comment about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?' Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 4:00 pm Posted by DEX (11847 messages posted) Just a add on note*** Flashing the BIOS with NO A: drive. Besure to read the flashcd.txt file before you burn the ISO file. You can also use this when your floppy drive will not run/boot or when you want to run a old DOS program from the R: cd rom drive. Just copy DOS OS from the HD and then add it to the ISO file b/4 you burn CDRW disk http://bootdisk.com/ http://bootdisk.com/txtfiles/flashcd.txt http://bootdisk.com/kentucky/flashcd.zip On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 8:37 am, DEX wrote: > Jeff >Well you just need to use the right tools to do what you want to do. >If you want to flash the BIOS use a win98se boot disk or just about any boot disk >will do it. >The boot disk will over ride Anything that's on the HD. >Then put in your BIOS flash disk in and run it. >. >You can also do it from a boot cd if you want, some of the new machine don't come >with a floppy disk anymore. >-------------------- >Items that are TSR need to have a OS to load them up into ram. >----------------- >Use msconfig or Startup CPL to stop any program from loading up at boot ( into memory/ram) >----------------------- >"Not EVERYONE has windows-based BIOS " = No windows base BIOS that I know about . >BIOS is chip on the MB that can be changed at will from the BIOS setup. >--------------------- >DOS is dead in a way because most of the programs need RAM to run and DOS just can't >give the machine the full ram to run the programs . >You can run many of the old DOS base programs if you have DOS installed on your machine >in it's own partition. > >"your RAM with Microsoft's utility? guess what, it doesn't run in *Windows* ...." >= you should not test ram in windows. >Download this cd ,it will test your ram. >and it's free. >Ultimate Boot CD with MANY tools on it. >From: >http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ >Or >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4019 > >Hope this helps a bit. >Have a good one > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Comment about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?' Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 4:54 pm Posted by Alan Masterman (462 messages posted) I still use DOS for heaps of things - for example, the DOS command line is a far more flexible, economical, and powerful file manager than Windows Explorer. What's this I read about MS including an enhanced command line capability in future versions of Windows? Plus ca change... On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 8:20 am, Jeff Kane wrote: >I have a comment about How >do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?: >Author said "DOS is dead, Windows did right, get over it" or words to that effect. > >The only problem with this is that DOS is still useful for many things that Windows >isn't. Ever try deleting a file in memory that won't quit via Task Manager End Process? > >How about flashing the BIOS on a peripheral? Not EVERYONE has windows-based BIOS >flash utilities, especially not for motherboards. > >Right now I have Windows2000, and it seems I'm unable to flash any bios, because >there is no way to get to a straight command prompt to do it. > >So, until Windows becomes a fully-featured GUI, we still need DOS. P.S. - ever test >your RAM with Microsoft's utility? guess what, it doesn't run in *Windows* .... > >Windows isn't complete enough to justify abandoning DOS yet. Get over it. [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows 2000 Discussion Forum