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w2k after Vista
Friday, April 20, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Jim O'Calaghan (264 messages posted)

Hi guys, simple enough question for you chaps! My wife is buying a laptop, but most come now, pre-loaded, with the dreaded Vista. My question is, can I install w2k after vista? or is it going to do what Microsoft does best, and give me a hard time. I have the installation disk for 2k pro. Thanks chaps.

Jim

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Dell: XP after Vista!
Friday, April 20, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Posted by DNA (551 messages posted)

Well, OK, it's not "2000", but I'd bet almost all "2000" fans would gladly take XP instead of Vista:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6575089.stm

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Athlon 1.1 - 768 MB RAM = 98SE & XP Home

Athlon 3000+ 64 - 1024 MB RAM = 98SE (@768 MB RAM) & XP Pro

IBM ThinkPad PIII 900 - 384 MB RAM = 98SE & XP Pro SP2

Windows 2000 Server in the basement

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re: Dell: XP after Vista!
Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 6:08 am
Posted by Jim O'Calaghan (264 messages posted)

Hi DNA, I'm afraid I don't understand your post (I'm a bit slow) Can I install 2k on an already loaded Vista? XP doesn't feature atall. I have the 2k disk, can I put it in and let rip without too much hassle? Cheers.

Jim


On Friday, April 20, 2007 at 7:19 pm, DNA wrote:
>Well, OK, it's not "2000", but I'd bet almost all "2000" fans would gladly take XP
>instead of Vista:
>


>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6575089.stm
>


>--------------------------------------------------------------

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re: Dell: XP after Vista!
Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 9:27 am
Posted by C K (5974 messages posted)

No..  You can't just do that.  Portables most often have proprietary drivers so you 
need to have the correct drivers for W2K.  Next, you will need to wipe out the drive 
and most manufacturers will void the warranty and refuse to support your new machine 
when you do this.

As for dual booting, you can't do that either as there is no free space on the drive 
most likely.  You would need to use a utility not included with Windows to shrink 
the partition and setup an extended partition/logical drive to run two operating 
systems.  Doing so can crash an NTFS formated drive.

Setting up dual booting with the MS boot manager requires that you install the newest 
operating system last, not first when using the MS recommended way of doing it.

Bottom line?  I would leaved it alone unless you know exactly what you are doing 
and know you have the correct W2K drivers for the hardware, if there are any.  W2K 
is old and MS isn't working on new drivers.  They need to be supplied from the hardware 
manufacturer so you would need to ask the manufacturer of the computer to see if 
there are any before trying it.  If you do, make sure you have the recovery options 
from the manufacturer tested and ready to go to get the machine operational again.






On Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 6:08 am, Jim O'Calaghan wrote:
>Hi DNA, I'm afraid I don't understand your post (I'm a bit slow) Can I install 2k
>on an already loaded Vista? XP doesn't feature atall. I have the 2k disk, can I
>put it in and let rip without too much hassle? Cheers.
>
>
>
>

Jim

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re: Dell: XP after Vista!
Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Jim O'Calaghan (264 messages posted)

Hi CK, thanks for all the valuable info. good of you to take the trouble. I'll follow your advise and leave well alone. I really don't know enough about it. Thanks again, and talk soon.

Jim


On Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 9:27 am, C K wrote:
>No.. You can't just do that. Portables most often have proprietary drivers so you
>need to have the correct drivers for W2K. Next, you will need to wipe out the drive
>and most manufacturers will void the warranty and refuse to support your new machine
>when you do this.
>
>As for dual booting, you can't do that either as there is no free space on the drive
>most likely. You would need to use a utility not included with Windows to shrink
>the partition and setup an extended partition/logical drive to run two operating
>systems. Doing so can crash an NTFS formated drive.
>
>Setting up dual booting with the MS boot manager requires that you install the newest
>operating system last, not first when using the MS recommended way of doing it.
>
>Bottom line? I would leaved it alone unless you know exactly what you are doing
>and know you have the correct W2K drivers for the hardware, if there are any. W2K
>is old and MS isn't working on new drivers. They need to be supplied from the hardware
>manufacturer so you would need to ask the manufacturer of the computer to see if
>there are any before trying it. If you do, make sure you have the recovery options
>from the manufacturer tested and ready to go to get the machine operational again.
>
>
>

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re: w2k after Vista
Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Posted by DEX (11745 messages posted)

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. 
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.
-- Chinese proverb --

This is what I would do... :) Go out a get a new HD say a 40gb for about 50.oo bucks Put the OLD (NEW) one in a box and put it away. Then install win2k on the new HD, but you'er in for alot of work, because all most all laptops have very proprietary hardware. I would send off for a driver disk 1st then get the new HD. see below http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsassZsweeney0 good luck with the rework

Great Free Software Click Here C. H. Forum Click Here


On Friday, April 20, 2007 at 3:40 pm, Jim O'Calaghan wrote:
>Hi guys, simple enough question for you chaps! My wife is buying a laptop, but most
>come now, pre-loaded, with the dreaded Vista. My question is, can I install w2k after
>vista? or is it going to do what Microsoft does best, and give me a hard time. I
>have the installation disk for 2k pro. Thanks chaps.

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re: w2k after Vista
Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Steve (19004 messages posted)

Seems like most the new Vista Laptops won't even run XP without loss of of functionality . Trying to get one to run 2000 will be even Harder. If you have not bought one yet, wait for Dell to start producing a couple XP Laptops again, out of popular Demand.

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re: w2k after Vista
Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Jim O'Calaghan (264 messages posted)

Thanks for that DEX, but I really haven't what it takes to do the work involved, in terms of know-how. I'd need to sit at your feet before taking it on. Cheers DEX.

Jim


On Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 3:54 pm, DEX wrote:
>Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
>Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.
>-- Chinese proverb --
>
>


>This is what I would do... :)
>Go out a get a new HD say a 40gb for about 50.oo bucks
>Put the OLD (NEW) one in a box and put it away.
>Then install win2k on the new HD, but you'er in for alot of work, because all most
>all laptops have very proprietary hardware.
>I would send off for a driver disk 1st then get the new HD.
>see below
>http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsassZsweeney0
>
>good luck with the rework
>
>
>
>
>
>

Great Free Software Click
>Here

>C. H. Forum Click Here
>

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re: w2k after Vista
Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Jim O'Calaghan (264 messages posted)

Hi Steve, thanks for the tip. CK gave me a link (bbc.co.) very interesting reading, and it does mention reintroducing XP for it's popularity, so I will wait for that, being the easier option. Thanks again Steve.

Jim


On Saturday, April 21, 2007 at 4:36 pm, Steve wrote:
>Seems like most the new Vista Laptops won't even run XP without loss of of functionality
>. Trying to get one to run 2000 will be even Harder. If you have not bought one yet,
>wait for Dell to start producing a couple XP Laptops again, out of popular Demand.

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