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RAM use vs total RAM available
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RAM use vs total RAM available
Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 4:23 pm Posted by Rick
(14 messages posted)
I have recently upgraded my computer and I now have 2 GBytes of memory. I also use
Norton SystemWorks and can monitor such things as RAM use.
Therein lies the "problem". I rarely see memory use greater than 500 kB? No matter
how much software I open up.
So here are my questions -
1) Can Win2k access more than 640 kB of memory?
2) If "yes" how? If "no" why did I buy the extra RAM?
3) Is my Swap file doing all the work- could it be too large?
Thanks in advance.
Rick
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The RAM conundrum
Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 7:36 pm Posted by DNA
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Windows 2000 Professional Workstation can work with 4 GB of physical RAM installed.
It is always better to have RAM and not need it, rather than the reverse
situation!
For specific RAM-hungry programs such as 3D video games, photo editing, and video
editing, you'll benefit from installing as much RAM as possible.
That said, anything above 512 MB of RAM in Win2K is not really necessary for 'general'
usage (internet/e-mail, burning discs, audio/video playback,etc.).
PS: Windows' default paging file sizes get larger when more physical RAM is
installed!
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Athlon 1.1 - 768 MB RAM = 98SE & XP Home
Athlon 3000+ 64 - 1024 MB RAM = 98SE (@768 MB RAM) & XP Pro
IBM ThinkPad PIII 900 - 384 MB RAM = 98SE & XP Pro SP2
Windows 2000 Server in the basement
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re: RAM use vs total RAM available
Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 9:04 pm Posted by DEX
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.
-- Chinese proverb --
You must mean MB and not KB ????
640kb is a drop in the bucket :) now days
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On Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 4:23 pm, Rick wrote:
>I have recently upgraded my computer and I now have 2 GBytes of memory. I also
use
>Norton SystemWorks and can monitor such things as RAM use.
>
>Therein lies the "problem". I rarely see memory use greater than 500 kB? No matter
>how much software I open up.
>
>So here are my questions -
>
> 1) Can Win2k access more than 640 kB of memory?
>
> 2) If "yes" how? If "no" why did I buy the extra RAM?
>
> 3) Is my Swap file doing all the work- could it be too large?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Rick
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re: The RAM conundrum
Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 10:49 pm Posted by Rick
(14 messages posted)
Many thanks DNA. (I am using Windows 2000 Professional - not the Workstation version.
Not sure if this makes any difference.) The specs suggest that my motherboard is
certainly capable of handling the memory. My fear was that the OS might not be up
to the task. So I guess all is well and my computer is just coasting with the current
load.
Thanks again for the quick reply. All the best,
Rick
On Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 7:36 pm, DNA wrote:
>Windows 2000 Professional Workstation can work with 4 GB of physical RAM installed.
>
>It is always better to have RAM and not need it, rather than the reverse
>situation!
>
>For specific RAM-hungry programs such as 3D video games, photo editing, and video
>editing, you'll benefit from installing as much RAM as possible.
>
>That said, anything above 512 MB of RAM in Win2K is not really necessary for 'general'
>usage (internet/e-mail, burning discs, audio/video playback,etc.).
>
>PS: Windows' default paging file sizes get larger when more physical RAM
is
>installed!
>
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re: RAM use vs total RAM available
Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 11:14 pm Posted by Rick
(14 messages posted)
You're correct DES. However, I started with a Kaypro II, 64kB of RAM, 2 floppy
drives and CPM. In those days 64 kB was huge. Apple only had 48 kB.
Rick
On Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 9:04 pm, DEX wrote:
>Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
>Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.
>-- Chinese proverb --
>
>
>You must mean MB and not KB ????
>
>640kb is a drop in the bucket :) now days
>
>
>
>
>
Great Free Software Click
>Here
>C. H. Forum Click Here
>
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re: RAM use vs total RAM available
Monday, August 13, 2007 at 6:56 am Posted by Kiwi
(2109 messages posted)
I don't recall an Apple II with 48 KBs, actually, but I never played with the Apple
I kit computer at all. My first IBM PC had twin 320 KB floppy drives and 256 KB
of RAM (I think that they were only 320 KBs). I had to get a loan from my Employee
Credit Union to buy the thing -- cost over $2000 back in 1982, when that was a lot
of money.
.
Kiwi
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On Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 11:14 pm, Rick wrote:
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>... In those days 64 kB was huge. Apple only had 48 kB.
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re: The RAM conundrum
Monday, August 13, 2007 at 11:31 am Posted by C K
(6038 messages posted)
FYI.. Win 2K Pro "IS" a Workstation operating system. You need to understand that
for MS, a workstation is any computer which isn't running the Server version of an
operating system and/or is not a server running a domain, in which "Workstations"
(the clients) are connected.
The term "workstation" is really designated as a business computer in a work environment
that is secured as such and is running a more secure operating system (NT3/4, W2K
Pro, XP Pro, Linux, Unix), more so than a computer running Win9X/XP Home in a typical
home environment..
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2K Server can use more RAM than 2K Pro
Monday, August 13, 2007 at 6:44 pm Posted by DNA
(551 messages posted)
The various versions of Windows 2000 Server can address more physical RAM (and amount
of processors installed) than Windows 2000 Professional Workstation, which is why
I made that distinction.
Unless you have a server in your home (which is happening more often these
days), your Windows 2000 home computer would be a 'workstation'
in M$ jargon.
M$ is in fact working on a "Windows Home Server" operating system, to cater to this
growing market (IMHO, one of their better ideas of late...)
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Athlon 1.1 - 768 MB RAM = 98SE & XP Home
Athlon 3000+ 64 - 1024 MB RAM = 98SE (@768 MB RAM) & XP Pro
IBM ThinkPad PIII 900 - 384 MB RAM = 98SE & XP Pro SP2
Windows 2000 Server in the basement
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re: 2K Server can use more RAM than 2K Pro
Monday, August 13, 2007 at 7:06 pm Posted by C K
(6038 messages posted)
That's all we need... One more catagory of Windows on this forum to keep up with..
LOL.. How many more ways for an average user to mess up a Windows system! I wondered
why thoughts of retirement have been running through my head lately.. ;-)
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re: RAM use vs total RAM available
Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 12:44 pm Posted by Josh Delcore
(16 messages posted)
The extra RAM you bought would be used if you started to use RAM intensive programs
like Video editing software. 2Gig's is almost always to much RAM for the average
w2k user or even a XP user. for people looking to see if they need more RAM open
task manager and look at how much RAM is being used during peak program use. If its
within 100MB of your total installed then you might want to upgrade a other wise
it will not help & will just sit there.....better to save up for a new computer with
a faster processor.
Josh Delcore
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re: RAM use vs total RAM available
Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 7:47 am Posted by Josh Delcore
(16 messages posted)
I have been doing some testing on my work computer and have found that with enough
RAM you actually can turn off "virtual memory" or page file. I have found that this
dramatically speeds up flipping from program to program, as information never is
placed in the slow "virtual memory" and always resides in the very fast "RAM memory".
I have been using this setup for a few weeks with no problems at all & would recommend
people to try it if they understand that it might cause problems if they run out
of RAM.
Josh Delcore
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re: RAM use vs total RAM available
Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 10:51 am Posted by Rick
(14 messages posted)
Thanks Josh but when I set the Pagfile size to zero my computer gives an error message
on reboot and it establishes a temporary page file?
How did you "turn off" the pagefile?
Thanks,
Rick
On Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 7:47 am, Josh Delcore wrote:
>I have been doing some testing on my work computer and have found that with enough
>RAM you actually can turn off "virtual memory" or page file. I have found that this
>dramatically speeds up flipping from program to program, as information never is
>placed in the slow "virtual memory" and always resides in the very fast "RAM memory".
>I have been using this setup for a few weeks with no problems at all & would recommend
>people to try it if they understand that it might cause problems if they run out
>of RAM.
>
>Josh Delcore
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