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re: dsl Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 10:37 am Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) All phones, 56k modems and fax machines need a DSL Filter between them and the line. The DSL modem of course does not, or it won't work. Usually IME, you can have up to five filters per line, and usually it has been recommended that you can connect up to two phones/devices with a Y splitter to one filter. More than that and you may get a degrading of signal to the DSL modem IME... http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-dsl-filter.htm On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 8:42 am, phantom wrote: > >When using dsl for the internet, what has to be done to the other phones in your >home or office. > >"> >src="http://www.dick-phantom.com/imagesextra/lightning2.jpg"> > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 11:37 am Posted by DEX (11847 messages posted) Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites Click Here Hi phantom What ??? Just plug them into the phone outlet jack.. Some DSL companys will also give you some filters for your phones but you don't need them the norm. The DSL is on a diff.frequency and it will not interfere with the phones on the same line... Most DSL companys put a box on the out side of the house just for the DSL hook up... Fix It Yourself Click Here On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 8:42 am, phantom wrote: > >When using dsl for the internet, what has to be done to the other phones in your >home or office. > >"> >src="http://www.dick-phantom.com/imagesextra/lightning2.jpg"> > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 2:05 pm Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) Actually your information is slightly incorrect. Many providing companies don't put a splitter in the line (which would be the best), rather, thay have self install kits they send out. Depends on the service and the country you live in of course. You have to check with the provider to see what they require as an install. You need filters on every device except the DSL modem if you don't have a splitter installed. Every DSL to date will need the voice range devices to be low pass filtered (blocks the high frequencies that you don't want in your voice range devices) and stops interference from voice devices to the DSL service, without a splitter installed on the incoming line. The faster the DSL the higher the frequency to a point and the harder it may be to hear over the old normal handset (non-electronic/solidsate phones), but the devices using the voice range (phones, 56k modems, fax machines) will need filters on them or they will not work correctly, or at all IME. That is unless your provider has installed a splitter at your location but that requires a dedicated line be installed to your DSL modem... IE, I have Verizon and Centurytel, and both have digital hash on the phones without the filters installed (they normally don't install splitters as both use self install kits). While the newer DSL service isn't as digitally "noisey" as was my old slower service was, it is still significant without filters installed and stops the service when someone picks up a handset.. Any install FAQ for DSL will verify my info.. On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 11:37 am, DEX wrote: >Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites > >Click Here > > > > >Hi phantom > >What ??? >Just plug them into the phone outlet jack.. > >Some DSL companys will also give you some filters for your phones but you don't need >them the norm. > >The DSL is on a diff.frequency and it will not interfere with the phones on the same >line... >Most DSL companys put a box on the out side of the house just for the DSL hook up... > > > > > > Fix It Yourself Click Here > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 5:32 pm Posted by DEX (11847 messages posted) Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites Click Here Hi CK Well I don't know about anyone else but I have a BOX on rear of the house where the phone line drops in from the pole and at that point they installed the box for the DSL line, it all comes in on one line (drop) I have Qwest for my DSL , my 2 sons have the same thing on the rear of the house. Then I have the DSL box in the house as well that is hooked up to the phone line and then to the router and 6 computers...4 are on the cat.5 hard wire and two are wireless. Fix It Yourself Click Here On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 2:05 pm, C K wrote: >Actually your information is slightly incorrect. Many providing companies don't >put a splitter in the line (which would be the best), rather, thay have self install >kits they send out. Depends on the service and the country you live in of course. > You have to check with the provider to see what they require as an install. You >need filters on every device except the DSL modem if you don't have a splitter installed. > Every DSL to date will need the voice range devices to be low pass filtered (blocks >the high frequencies that you don't want in your voice range devices) and stops interference >from voice devices to the DSL service, without a splitter installed on the incoming >line. > >The faster the DSL the higher the frequency to a point and the harder it may be to >hear over the old normal handset (non-electronic/solidsate phones), but the devices >using the voice range (phones, 56k modems, fax machines) will need filters on them >or they will not work correctly, or at all IME. That is unless your provider has >installed a splitter at your location but that requires a dedicated line be installed >to your DSL modem... > >IE, I have Verizon and Centurytel, and both have digital hash on the phones without >the filters installed (they normally don't install splitters as both use self install >kits). While the newer DSL service isn't as digitally "noisey" as was my old slower >service was, it is still significant without filters installed and stops the service >when someone picks up a handset.. Any install FAQ for DSL will verify my info.. > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 5:46 pm Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) I'm not in a Quest area and don't work on their systems, but what you have is a splitter, probably on the outside of the house, sometimes in the junction box on the house, then a dedicated line running to the DSL modem, and from there to your router (unless you have a modem/router all-in -one as some services provide/sell).. From what I have gathered from many providers websites, large and small, the self install kit with filters is the more common, and the cheapest obviously for the phone company/service provider. You don't need filters as you have a splitter installed, which is usually better anyway, just a little inconveinant if you want to move your modem to another area, unless you have CAT5-6 and can use a second pair of wires for your dedicated DSL line like I do.. ;-) On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 5:32 pm, DEX wrote: >Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites > >Click Here > > > > >Hi CK > >Well I don't know about anyone else but I have a BOX on rear of the house where the >phone line drops in from the pole and at that point they installed the box for the >DSL line, it all comes in on one line (drop) I have Qwest for my DSL , my 2 sons >have the same thing on the rear of the house. > >Then I have the DSL box in the house as well that is hooked up to the phone line >and then to the router and 6 computers...4 are on the cat.5 hard wire and two are >wireless. > > > > > > Fix It Yourself Click Here > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 7:15 pm Posted by DEX (11847 messages posted) Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites Click Here Hi CK You know me once they put the box on the out side I was in it and checking it out, in voltage is 100 volts into a conver.box then two lines coming out one for my fax line and one for the phones and DSL hook up. I did put on the filters and then I took them off, they didn't help or to say I didn't need them. I can plug the DSL modem in anywhere in the house or the garage and we are on line... One cable from the standard phone jack to the DSL modem then out to the router/hubs I have 3 routers around the house that are using the cat.5 cable hook ups. My DSL modem as the wireless built in and can take as many wireless computers as I want to use on the system. Fix It Yourself Click Here On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 5:46 pm, C K wrote: >I'm not in a Quest area and don't work on their systems, but what you have is a splitter, >probably on the outside of the house, sometimes in the junction box on the house, >then a dedicated line running to the DSL modem, and from there to your router (unless >you have a modem/router all-in -one as some services provide/sell).. > >From what I have gathered from many providers websites, large and small, the self >install kit with filters is the more common, and the cheapest obviously for the phone >company/service provider. You don't need filters as you have a splitter installed, >which is usually better anyway, just a little inconveinant if you want to move your >modem to another area, unless you have CAT5-6 and can use a second pair of wires >for your dedicated DSL line like I do.. ;-) > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Monday, October 1, 2007 at 12:06 am Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) Qwest like Verizon uses different equipment around the country. It would be interesting if you could post the brand and model number of the hardware/converter/splitter installed for reference purposes, as well as the modem. I think I know how your system is setup, but I haven't seen an install like it close up, at least the way you describe it.. :-) On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 7:15 pm, DEX wrote: >Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites > >Click Here > > > > >Hi CK > >You know me once they put the box on the out side I was in it and checking it out, > in voltage is 100 volts into a conver.box then two lines coming out one for my fax >line and one for the phones and DSL hook up. > > >I did put on the filters and then I took them off, they didn't help or to say I didn't >need them. > >I can plug the DSL modem in anywhere in the house or the garage and we are on line... > >One cable from the standard phone jack to the DSL modem then out to the router/hubs >I have 3 routers around the house that are using the cat.5 cable hook ups. > >My DSL modem as the wireless built in and can take as many wireless computers as >I want to use on the system. > > > > > > > > Fix It Yourself Click Here > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Monday, October 1, 2007 at 4:17 am Posted by phantom (5661 messages posted) Thanks, I have 6 phones and 1 hook up to my satellite. None are a dedicated line. Don't know what the ISP does at this point. I doubt they do anything they don't have to. phantom On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 10:37 am, C K wrote: >All phones, 56k modems and fax machines need a DSL Filter between them and the line. > The DSL modem of course does not, or it won't work. Usually IME, you can have up >to five filters per line, and usually it has been recommended that you can connect >up to two phones/devices with a Y splitter to one filter. More than that and you >may get a degrading of signal to the DSL modem IME... > >http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-dsl-filter.htm > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Monday, October 1, 2007 at 4:24 am Posted by phantom (5661 messages posted) Thanks, I have 6 phones and 1 hook up to my satellite. None are a dedicated line. Don't know what the ISP does at this point. I doubt they do anything they don't have to. phantom On Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 11:37 am, DEX wrote: >Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites > >Click Here > > > > >Hi phantom > >What ??? >Just plug them into the phone outlet jack.. > >Some DSL companys will also give you some filters for your phones but you don't need >them the norm. > >The DSL is on a diff.frequency and it will not interfere with the phones on the same >line... >Most DSL companys put a box on the out side of the house just for the DSL hook up... > > > > > > Fix It Yourself Click Here > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Monday, October 1, 2007 at 3:13 pm Posted by Steve (23811 messages posted) You would install a filter like pictured on each Phone, Fax, Answer Mach, Satellite TV Receiver if it hooks up to phone line etc. My DSL provider gave Me 4 Filters which was not enough, so I could have bought more at Radio Shack, or in My case I just jury rigged One Whole House Filter to the main Phone Box, and ran a dedicated unfiltered Phone line to the DSL Modem. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: dsl Tuesday, October 2, 2007 at 4:44 am Posted by phantom (5661 messages posted) Thanks Steve, I figured as much!! Read something about in somewhere but couldn't remember the details. On Monday, October 1, 2007 at 3:13 pm, Steve wrote: >You would install a filter like pictured on each Phone, Fax, Answer Mach, Satellite >TV Receiver if it hooks up to phone line etc. My DSL provider gave Me 4 Filters which >was not enough, so I could have bought more at Radio Shack, or in My case I just >jury rigged One Whole House Filter to the main Phone Box, and ran a dedicated unfiltered >Phone line to the DSL Modem. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows 2000 Discussion Forum