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re: Shockwave Flash Friday, October 30, 2009 at 5:59 pm Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) I should add that I installed it right after upgrading Firefox to 3.54 today. I have Internet Explorer blocked by my firewall and since there are no further updates to be had for Win2K I don't have any reason to use IE at all. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Shockwave Flash Friday, October 30, 2009 at 11:15 pm Posted by Maureen Clow (6 messages posted) If you use windows then you need I.E for updates from Microsoft. You cannot do this with Firefox. On Friday, October 30, 2009 at 5:59 pm, dhm wrote: > >I should add that I installed it right after upgrading Firefox to 3.54 today. I >have Internet Explorer blocked by my firewall and since there are no further updates >to be had for Win2K I don't have any reason to use IE at all. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: End of Active Support Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 3:58 am Posted by Kiwi (2228 messages posted) Like the man says, there are no Windows2000 updates coming out any more. . Kiwi ** On Friday, October 30, 2009 at 11:15 pm, Maureen Clow wrote: >If you use windows then you need I.E for updates from Microsoft. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Shockwave Flash Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 5:20 am Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) Many things wrong with that. One is that I don't need IE updates. As I stated, I don't use IE. As I stated, I have it so my firewall blocks it. Another is that Msft has no intention of removing the vulnerabilities of IE. The updates are meaningless. Indeed, they did the opposite earlier this year and hacked Firefox to put a security hole in it. They installed an invisible plug-in so it would accept the driveby installations of ActiveX. Removal could not be done by the Firefox procedures but by working with the registry. Another is that something happened to my IE installation with 5.5 and while it functions it refuses to update to 6. It gives an update is already in progress. Another is that Msft no longer supports Win2K. The last time they had an update for that they said would apply to Win2K, I had to go to a WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) page that rejects Win2K. The last point is that the subject here is Shockwave Flash. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: End of Active Support Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 5:31 am Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) Thank you. I've partially worked on my problem but Googling "shockwave flash" and ignoring all the leading entries and jumping to some page way down in priority. I was hoping for a page with a use of it that would be quick to load. That is, some relatively simple animations and work up from that. So far the most promising is www.mapsofwar.com which has various maps showing the surge and shrinkage of empires and religions. I'll report back on my results. However that, if anyone has tips on Shockwave sites for testing this or have already done what I have, I would appreciate it. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: End of Active Support so see 3rd parties Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 5:43 am Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) The update packages for unsupported versions of Windows can be found at www.mdgx.com They once were shut down, probably by Msft, but are back. They are, in effect, a Windows fan site. They had (and still do) Win98 updates and mods and have added all (I think) the updates for Win2K. These are in a format that they must be downloaded and run. They do not install directly. So they can be downloaded by Firefox or, preferably, a download manager. There is no need to use IE to get them. Here, I just found another: wareseeker.com/free-win2k-service-pack-4-problem [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Shockwave Flash Sunday, November 1, 2009 at 1:36 pm Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) Okay, I tried it and it worked fine for these: www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html www.mapsofwar.com/ind/history-of-religion.html www.ushmm.org -- Holocaust Museum's map of WWII with voice narration The location for the recent Shockwave player is: get.adobe.com/shockwave/otherversions Under the drop down box "Select an installer type" you must select "Slim"; the "Full" version will not run under Win2K. It will put Shockwave_Installer_Slim.exe into your download directory. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Shockwave Flash Monday, November 2, 2009 at 6:07 am Posted by Arminius (334 messages posted) It seems that a lack of support by third party software vendors determines whether an OS is still useable or not. dhm wrote: |Another is that Msft no longer supports Win2K. I don't think that is quite right. My understanding is that there will be updates well into 2010 unless Microsoft announced they will cut off support early. http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifean35 dhm wrote: |The last time they had an update for that they said would apply to |Win2K, I had to go to a WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) page that |rejects Win2K. I don't go to the WGA page out of principle. If you know the file name you can usually track it down by googling for it. ERPman is a good place to look for updates. I read the security bulletins, download the updates, and archive them to keep them on hand. http://erpman1.tripod.com/w2kxpupd.html [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Shockwave Flash Monday, November 2, 2009 at 11:04 am Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) Thanks for the tips, Arminius. 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