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XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
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XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 8:24 pm Posted by Dan Sarandrea, MCSE
(7132 messages posted)
Seems like the 7 board has been overrun with refugees from XP!!
OK, XPeople, listen up! For best results with 7:
0. Run a memory checker and your hard disk drive manufacturer's diagnostic to make
sure these two components are error-free.
1. DO NOT install 7 on your computer without checking your hardware and driver compatibilty.
2. DO NOT install any programs until you have checked the program publisher's website
to see if the program is compatible with 7.
3. DO NOT come in here bitching that you can't access a certain folder in your profile.
The folder names you can't access are there only as pointers for backward compatibility.
Get over it.
4. DO NOT turn off User Account Control. Microsoft implemented User Account Control
to save you from yourselves, because you people were running 91% of your XP computers
with a Computer Administrator account, which is what turned XP into a malware magnet.
UAC is responsible for the Vista platform having 70% less susceptibilty to malware
than XP, so SUCK IT UP and get used to it, for your own good.
That's it...you may now return to your regularly scheduled upgrade. :-)
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 12:43 pm Posted by Robert C
(89 messages posted)
I think this post was unnecessary. I did not find it helpful and am sure many others
think so too.
There are and will always be many people who bite off more than they can chew but
yuh know, many learn that way. So cut some slack here.
Robert Clark
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 3:04 pm Posted by MartinM
(7549 messages posted)
Are you some sort of self-appointed censor then ?
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 3:55 pm Posted by Robert C
(89 messages posted)
No, just some sort of opiniated, like many others. ;)
Robert Clark
On Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 3:04 pm, MartinM wrote:
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>Are you some sort of self-appointed censor then ?
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 4:22 pm Posted by MartinM
(7549 messages posted)
:-)
On Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 3:55 pm, Robert Clark wrote:
>No, just some sort of opiniated, like many others. ;)
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>Robert Clark
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Thursday, November 5, 2009 at 5:46 am Posted by Alan Masterman
(462 messages posted)
Dan, for heaven's sake, you sound like a Microsoft hatchetman...
Has it occurred to you how pathetically easy it would have been for Microsoft to
program the installation routine to tell us all these things automatically? As Step
1 in the installation routine, before a single file has been transferred? If Belarc
can analyse a system, why can't MS?
"You are attempting to instal Windows 7 to a system which has less than 1GB of RAM.
Windows 7 has also detected that, under your previous operating system, you were
running software which may be incompatible. Be aware that if you re-instal this
software, it is unlikely to run correctly due to the following known issues... "
etc, etc.
You will realise, of course, that even if you had reformatted your disc prior to
installation, this information would STILL be available.
What you are doing, in your post, is what sociologists call "blaming the victim".
You know, when there's a plane crash, it's the dead pilot who gets the blame.
That fact that all these people are installing the system, and then finding that
it doesn't run properly, is not a reflection on them... it's an indictment of Microsoft's
incompetence. The majority of the problems they are complaining of would have already
been discovered by MS engineers as part of the development process. So why didn't
MS incorporate that wisdom into the installation routine?
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Thursday, November 5, 2009 at 6:58 am Posted by Adam Bradley
(8786 messages posted)
I would say someone who installs without checking to make sure the system can run
an OS correctly is not a victim, more like they dove into the deep end of the pool
without knowing how to swim. You still help them out but it is their own fault for
not making sure what they are getting into.
On Thursday, November 5, 2009 at 5:46 am, Alan Masterman wrote:
>Dan, for heaven's sake, you sound like a Microsoft hatchetman...
>Has it occurred to you how pathetically easy it would have been for Microsoft to
>program the installation routine to tell us all these things automatically? As
Step
>1 in the installation routine, before a single file has been transferred? If Belarc
>can analyse a system, why can't MS?
>"You are attempting to instal Windows 7 to a system which has less than 1GB of RAM.
> Windows 7 has also detected that, under your previous operating system, you were
>running software which may be incompatible. Be aware that if you re-instal this
>software, it is unlikely to run correctly due to the following known issues... "
>etc, etc.
>You will realise, of course, that even if you had reformatted your disc prior to
>installation, this information would STILL be available.
>What you are doing, in your post, is what sociologists call "blaming the victim".
> You know, when there's a plane crash, it's the dead pilot who gets the blame.
>That fact that all these people are installing the system, and then finding that
>it doesn't run properly, is not a reflection on them... it's an indictment of Microsoft's
>incompetence. The majority of the problems they are complaining of would have already
>been discovered by MS engineers as part of the development process. So why didn't
>MS incorporate that wisdom into the installation routine?
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Thursday, November 5, 2009 at 7:31 am Posted by Dan Sarandrea, MCSE
(7132 messages posted)
The approach they chose was not to integrate the software and hardware checks into
Setup (likely because such info would change or be updated during the several months
of initial deployment).
There is the Windows 7 Compatibilty Center here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/windows-7/en-us/Default.aspx?type=Software
And the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1b544e90-7659-4bd9-9e51-2497c146af15&displaylang=en#AdditionalInfo
And yes, I am engaging in a little XP user-bashing. But IMO for the reasons stated
above, it is well-deserved bashing :-)
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re: XP Refugees: Read This Basic Advice
Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 5:24 am Posted by Mike Levine
(3 messages posted)
Generally I think the original post is ok yet it seems others have taken umbrage.
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Friday, November 27, 2009 at 1:54 pm Posted by Steve Boccalatte
(73 messages posted)
All in good humour, please.
Sound advice, but I cannot bring myself to turn ON UAC yet. If it turns out that
this will bite me later, then I will reconsider.
For now and the whole of the first month of WIN 7, everything is just great.
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