I have a question about Share an Internet Connection:

Help? Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) is not an option for me since I am working under W95. I am helping a friend out who has been using a DSL modem (really router/hub) that WAS directly connected to a local (internal worgroup network) Hub. DSL connection used to work properly through the existing 10+ port network hub with 6 or so workstations. Under TCP/IP properties, we simply told each workstation the proper DNS and IP settings for the ISP and everyone was succesful in using one DSL account. Recently, a shared program was upgraded that caused the DSL connection to stop working. Actually, both the DSL/Internet connections and the shared application both stopped working from the workstations. After contacting technical support for the application they explained that the DSL router was the conflict and that it was causing the application traffic to be directed to the router instead of the respective workstation. Apparently due to the exisitng IP settings for the DSN and/or the gateway addresses. Specificly, mapping network drives doesn't seem to be an option and the vendor states they don't suport DSL or any other ethernet high speed internet connections. It's either one or the other. Of course they say ..Uh sorry, we don't support DSL (or any other internet conections). After pushing them for a better alternative, they said some of the customers had setup up a seperate workstation as a gateway. I assume an "Internet Gateway". My dilema is that no one seems to know exactly how to set one up. My constraints seem to be that the gateway computer must have the DSL connection directly connected to it hence, 2 Ethernet cards are present. One for the workgroup connection and one for a dedicated DSL conection. On the remaining workstations I can not get away enabling DNS (or so it appears) or the applicaiton will not see the respective application loaded workstation because it heads to the gateway/router instead (under it previous configuration plugged in the hub with the respective IP settings to the ISP). I am trying to set up the gateway with internet access, the workstations with only static (fake) IP's plus the gateway setting pointing to the "gateway workstation" described above (NIC card #2). Yet it also does not seem to work. I suspect I don't have the right combination yet. So far only the application will work (when no DNS or Gateway settings exist) or the DSL Internet connection will work (via the old configuration out of the 10+ port hub but not yet from the newly established gateway. ISP DNS and gateway settings present of course.) but not both. Begining to look at some free downloads like IPRouter but I really don't know if this will fix my problem either and allow use of the gateway without entries in the IP Properties. Theres got to be an easier way to set this gateway up. Can anyone help to clear some of this up?

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Set up one pc as the main connection to the internet. Connect the others to the main one using a workgroup/ethernet hub. Download and install "Proxy" from AnalogX, on the "connected machine" and follow the directions ( in a read me file ) for assigning IP addresses to the other pc's. It works like a dream it's small,and it's freeware. I use it to run two pc's on one dial up, and have both on-line at the same time. It will obviously work for DSL too. The Proxy program allows for multiple e-mail addys, etc, etc


On Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 1:12 am, RBraun wrote:
>I have a question about Share
>an Internet Connection:

>Help? Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) is not an option for me since I am working
>under W95. I am helping a friend out who has been using a DSL modem (really router/hub)
>that WAS directly connected to a local (internal worgroup network) Hub. DSL connection
>used to work properly through the existing 10+ port network hub with 6 or so workstations.
> Under TCP/IP properties, we simply told each workstation the proper DNS and IP settings
>for the ISP and everyone was succesful in using one DSL account. Recently, a shared
>program was upgraded that caused the DSL connection to stop working. Actually, both
>the DSL/Internet connections and the shared application both stopped working from
>the workstations. After contacting technical support for the application they explained
>that the DSL router was the conflict and that it was causing the application traffic
>to be directed to the router instead of the respective workstation. Apparently due
>to the exisitng IP settings for the DSN and/or the gateway addresses. Specificly,
>mapping network drives doesn't seem to be an option and the vendor states they don't
>suport DSL or any other ethernet high speed internet connections. It's either one
>or the other. Of course they say ..Uh sorry, we don't support DSL (or any other internet
>conections). After pushing them for a better alternative, they said some of the
>customers had setup up a seperate workstation as a gateway. I assume an "Internet
>Gateway". My dilema is that no one seems to know exactly how to set one up. My
>constraints seem to be that the gateway computer must have the DSL connection directly
>connected to it hence, 2 Ethernet cards are present. One for the workgroup connection
>and one for a dedicated DSL conection. On the remaining workstations I can not get
>away enabling DNS (or so it appears) or the applicaiton will not see the respective
>application loaded workstation because it heads to the gateway/router instead (under
>it previous configuration plugged in the hub with the respective IP settings to the
>ISP). I am trying to set up the gateway with internet access, the workstations with
>only static (fake) IP's plus the gateway setting pointing to the "gateway workstation"
>described above (NIC card #2). Yet it also does not seem to work. I suspect I don't
>have the right combination yet. So far only the application will work (when no DNS
>or Gateway settings exist) or the DSL Internet connection will work (via the old
>configuration out of the 10+ port hub but not yet from the newly established gateway.
>ISP DNS and gateway settings present of course.) but not both. Begining to look
>at some free downloads like IPRouter but I really don't know if this will fix my
>problem either and allow use of the gateway without entries in the IP Properties.
> Theres got to be an easier way to set this gateway up. Can anyone help to clear
>some of this up?
>

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I'm a little fuzzy on exactly what you're saying, but I'll give it a stab.

It sound like you need to set up routes on your client workstations to two different 
networks. 

Assuming you have your gateway pointing to the application, try this in a command 
prompt

ROUTE ADD [destination] MASK [mask] [gateway] [metric] IF[interface]

Where destination is the network that you need to get to (in this case, the Internet)

Mask is the subnet mask of that network.

Gateway is the specific address that will get you to that network

Metric should probably be set at 1 or 2

Interface can probably be skipped, and it will see that the client only has one NIC.

These instructions are for Win2000, I think the command is even more basic for Win98. 
In a DOS (command) prompt, type ROUTE ADD and it will give you the syntax.

HTH,
Tim

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What I would do if i were you is install both the nics into 1 machine enable ure dsl modem to use pppoe (which means your modem authenicates it self to ure isp instead of ure router/hub etc. then i would on the nic thats for dsl set the tcp/ip setting to automatic then on the second nic card set it up static give it the ip addy 192.168.1.2 give the client computer ip 192.168.1.3 with subnet 255.255.255.0 Default gateway 192.168.1.1 and also make sure u have a cross over cable (means that 2 computers aren't sending and receving at the same time this would be a problem hence ure on a straight connections and have no routher with any buffer)If this doesn't work e-mail me and I will come up with a soultion to your problem.


On Friday, September 14, 2001 at 3:20 pm, Steve Easton wrote:
>Set up one pc as the main connection to the internet. Connect the others to the main
>one using a workgroup/ethernet hub. Download and install "Proxy" from AnalogX, on
>the "connected machine" and follow the directions ( in a read me file ) for assigning
>IP addresses to the other pc's. It works like a dream it's small,and it's freeware.
>I use it to run two pc's on one dial up, and have both on-line at the same time.
>It will obviously work for DSL too. The Proxy program allows for multiple e-mail
>addys, etc, etc
>

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