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re: Saving Pictures -- The *Modern Browser* solution (et al)
Monday, January 21, 2008 at 9:31 am
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Posted by Arminius (334 messages posted)


Ok gewg, you made your case. You talked me into installing a different browser. I 
decided to give Opera a try.

You covered a lot of ground. I'll just leave a few comments about some of the things 
you wrote.


"I also rejected Firefox (in favor of the Gecko suite)."

-I noticed some of the recent Linux releases are abandoning Firefox in favor of Gecko 
as well.


"Definition of the Internet:
"A homogeneous network with a hetrogeneous infrastructure".
IOW, it's about **UNIVERSAL protocols**.
Translation: It's not supposed to matter what you run."

-The lack of "support for Win 98" by my ISP goes beyond that. It means no technical 
support in the event of hardware problems for the modem or the Netgear Wi-fi adapter 
that were included in the package despite the fact that Win 98SE drivers for these 
hardware devices are readily available from the manufacturers website. Using Win 
98 would make it harder to make a warranty claim in event of hardware failure. I 
would have to demonstrate that the hardware did not function on one of the OS's "supported" 
by the ISP, Win 2000, XP, or Vista. And just to give you an idea of what I am dealing 
with, one of my ISP's tech support people didn't know that Win 2000 was on their 
supported OS's list until I told him and he checked. I was later told by another, 
they rarely ever come across a customer who uses Win 2000.


"I noted earlier this week
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1199853459
that ISP software is unnecessary and is universally crap."

-At least they got that part right. They installed little more than the hardware 
drivers.


"I try to stay away from sites constructed by complete idiots
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.enteringthemindseye.com/boldventure.html
but the other page gave me no problems.  (Again: using a Gecko-based browser.)"

-I think "complete idiots" is a bit harsh. I would say "complete amateurs", I have 
been downloading mp3s from that site for over two years and would not have posted 
the link if I had reason to believe there were any dangers at that site. It is a 
family home page that belongs to some nice folks who do a respectable job but are 
not experts.


"When I *do* have a problem with images
because of an anal-retentive site owner who defeats right-click,
SeaMonkey (nee Mozilla Suite) does all I ever need:
File; Edit Page (The integral HTML Editor--nee Netscape Composer--opens)."

-I figured out how to fix right-click problems by trial and error. I just save the 
web page, open it in a text editor, and edit out the offending code.


Thanks for the detailed dissertation. Well, I already noticed one bug in Opera, not 
being able to copy text from the web page and paste it elsewhere.


Arminius





Written in response to:
re: Saving Pictures -- The *Modern Browser* solution (et al) (gewg_: Sunday, January 20, 2008 at 3:30 pm)

Responses to this message:
*Good browsers, good HTML tools, good companies, good HTML pages (gewg_: Monday, January 21, 2008 at 12:45 pm)

All messages in this thread [show all]
-Saving Pictures (The TOOLMAN: Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 3:32 pm)
-re: Saving Pictures (Steve: Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 8:28 pm)
-re: Saving Pictures (The TOOLMAN: Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 5:50 am)
-re: Saving Pictures (Steve: Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 6:15 pm)
-re: Saving Pictures (Keith Stanier: Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 4:44 am)
*re: Saving Pictures (Steve: Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 7:30 am)
-re: Saving Pictures (Arminius: Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 7:03 pm)
-re: Saving Pictures (gewg_: Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 8:42 pm)
-re: Saving Pictures (Arminius: Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 11:33 pm)
-re: Saving Pictures -- The *Modern Browser* solution (et al) (gewg_: Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 3:30 pm)
-re: Saving Pictures -- The *Modern Browser* solution (et al) (Arminius: Mon, Jan 21, 2008, 9:31 am)
-Good browsers, good HTML tools, good companies, good HTML pages (gewg_: Mon, Jan 21, 2008, 12:45 pm)
*re: Good browsers, good HTML tools, good companies, good HTML pages (dhm: Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 1:12 am)
*re: Saving Pictures (Steve: Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 1:09 pm)
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