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Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...)
Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 3:45 pm
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Posted by gewg_ (3943 messages posted)


heh heh wrote:
|Linux makes great live cd roms,
|
Yup.  I've mentioned that in this thread.

|and since linux is always in a state of constant upgrade curve,
|
That's NOT a bad thing. One of the BEST things about Free Software
is the rate at which those projects release patches & updates.[1]
Just think how long IE6 stagnated until Mozilla (a Free Software app)
and Opera (a freeware app) spurred Micro$oft to work on IE.

Think how long M$ futzed with Vista (5 years)
before stripping out most of the promised features then
shoved it out the door in a state that has many people just shaking their heads.
"The Vista Death Watch"  by John C. Dvorak 
cache of http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2209837,00.asp

|(2-6 months)
|
Because Debian supports *so many* processor/architecture types (not just x86)
--and since they want to release all of them at the same time,
it takes them *longer than most distros* to put out a new release.
Ubuntu (which is based on Debian)[2]
was started to give a firm 6-month release cycle of the Debian codebase.

Firefox typically issues patches ~weekly.
They also offer nightly builds for the adventurous.

|It can't be counted on.
|
Can you give an example?
...or do you think M$'s Security Through Obscurity model
and its frequent *we're never going to patch that* stance is somehow superior?
...and the "Patch Tuesday" model of once-monthly SECURITY patches that M$ uses
is just confounding to me.

If you've never actually INSTALLED an upgrade to a Linux distro
then **reverted** to the previous configuration
(read: put back the previous kernel--which is possible with Linux)[3],
you don't really have a valid data point to add to the graph.

|Use live Cd's only for now only,
|
Well, they are excellent for test drives and for practicing
but I don't see the logic behind "only".
If you wanted to, you could install Linux to a completely seperate HDD.
You could then remove Linux by removing that drive;
all of Linux that would be left behind would be the (benign) Multi-Boot Manager.

|windows 95/98,98SE,& XP are still old versions that get the job done.
|
That's what counts most:  A tool that does what you need to do.

For people posting questions to *this* forum, XP typically *isn't* an "old version";
they would have to purchase it and learn it.
If you are going to have to learn something new, having to *pay* for it as well
seems like twisting the knife--especially when there are FREE options.

|Linux is a great Temporary solution.
|
When people mention spending yet more money
for yet another M$ OS with yet another version of MSFT's poor security model,
I have to ask what those folks are thinking.
In most cases, I think it's just no one telling them there are options.

Most apps that folks are currently using have Free Software equivalents.
(Many of those apps are cross-platform
so they can be used under Windoze long before the Big Switch to another OS.)
...and under Windoze, those Free Software apps are more secure than the M$ apps.

WINE (a recursive acronym for Wine IS Not an Emulator)
is a reverse-engineered re-implemention of the Windoze APIs.
It currently allows many Windoze-compatible apps to run under Linux
(and it is improving weekly).

Smart software developers make sure that their Windoze apps will run under WINE.
The brilliant ones did it 5 years ago. 
From the Usenet Archive -- Mike Engelhardt

There are also folks who have never used a computer and haven't formed a bias.
When they buy new computers with pre-installed Linux[4]
(Wal-Mart does a profitable business in this),
those folks find that can do all the usual stuff--sans Microsoft.

I posted a link to the story of a sizeable corporation
that for years now has conducted its business completely Microsoft-free.

The city of Largo Florida has done the same since 2002.


[1] ...and no one is holding a gun to your head to upgrade anything
--though if you do, the process under Linux is **easier** than with MSFT.

[2] as is Knoppix and MEPIS and Freespire and ...

[3] This just boggles the mind of Windoze users.

[4] ...which, of course, are cheaper without the Microsoft Tax(tm).




Written in response to:
re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (heh heh: Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 11:51 am)

Responses to this message:
*re: Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...) (appleoddity: Monday, August 25, 2008 at 12:51 am)

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-antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (samantha: Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 1:14 pm)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (gewg_: Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 3:46 pm)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (Alan Masterman: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 7:19 am)
*Alternatives to easily-infected OSes (gewg_: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 10:35 am)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (bob wells: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 8:53 am)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (gewg_: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 10:36 am)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (bob wells: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:15 am)
-Working around Microsoft's insecurities (gewg_: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:49 am)
-re: Working around Microsoft's insecurities (bob wells: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 1:51 pm)
-re: Working around Microsoft's insecurities (gewg_: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 2:13 pm)
-re: Working around Microsoft's insecurities (bob wells: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 2:38 pm)
-XP (and M$ warez) vs alternatives (gewg_: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 6:05 pm)
-re: XP (and M$ warez) vs alternatives (bob wells: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 7:46 pm)
-re: XP (and whatever MS OS) vs various non-MS (Kiwi: Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 11:48 am)
*re: XP (and whatever MS OS) vs various non-MS (gewg_: Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 2:24 pm)
-re: Working around Microsoft's insecurities (appleoddity: Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 6:50 pm)
*re: Working around Microsoft's insecurities (gewg_: Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 7:16 pm)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (dolly: Thu, May 14, 2009, 6:56 am)
*re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (gewg_: Thu, May 14, 2009, 10:31 am)
*re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (jack hall: Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 6:53 pm)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (bob wells: Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 7:52 pm)
*re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (samantha: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 5:24 am)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (Alan Masterman: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 6:54 am)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (Kiwi: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 3:04 pm)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (George Cowley: Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 5:05 pm)
*Windoze "security" apps vs a more secure OS (gewg_: Sat, May 2, 2009, 3:44 pm)
-re: antivirus AVG free version ending support for Win98 (heh heh: Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 11:51 am)
-Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...) (gewg_: Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 3:45 pm)
-re: Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...) (appleoddity: Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 12:51 am)
-re: Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...) (gewg_: Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 3:57 pm)
-re: Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...) (GG: Mon, Sep 1, 2008, 3:28 am)
-re: Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...) (heh heh: Mon, Sep 1, 2008, 7:18 pm)
*re: Bootable CD vs Dual-boot or new OS (was: ...AVG free...) (gewg_: Mon, Sep 1, 2008, 10:01 pm)
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