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re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue.
Sunday, June 28, 2009 at 5:33 pm
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Posted by runsan (98 messages posted)


IE is a standard in itself, & it’s proud not to be the underdog. FF does hinder when 
it comes to styling with CSS..you can’t color scrollbars & you can’t add styles to 
images. Fact: all versions compatible with 98 have glitches. 

FF isn’t completely friendly with various media embedding plugins… from suggesting 
“manual installs” for Shockwave and WMP, or (once they’re installed) either half-loads 
the embedded page, or loads everything… but refuses to play the content. 

Fact: IE6 has been more secure than Firefox 1 in 2006

FF flaws
SA12403 - Unpatched since 08-30-2004
SA23046 - Unpatched since 11-22-2006
SA25481 - Unpatched since 06-01-2007
SA27907 - Unpatched since 12-04-2007
SA12580 - Unpatched from 09-18-2004 to 01-15-2008
SA20442 - Unpatched from 06-06-2006 to 10-19-2007

Using FF is not a solution to spyware as you put it 
& I shall encourage others to use IE thanks to it's reliability.






On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 5:11 pm, gewg_ wrote:
>runsan wrote:
>|The majority of infections come from sites you visit
>|
>In the 21st Century, the majority of infections come thru email
>and require foolish people using insecure M$ apps to execute them.
>
>...and the people who run non-M$ apps and especially non-M$ OSes
>don't seeem to have problems with infections from websites.
>
>|(it’s not solely IE fault).
>|
>People getting pwned via IE6 is so common,
>when it happens, it doesn't even make a ripple any more.
>Now, botnets of ten of thousands of IE users--that makes the news.
>
>IE has ActiveX and Browser Helper Objects.
>No other browser has those highly-exploitable infection vectors.
>
>The way IE is tied to the OS adds another HUGE pile of insecurities:
>cache of http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878

>
>|IE has a better bookmark system,
>|
>Again: Not necessarily. Most people find no difference--until backup time;
>then non-IE browsers win via the density of the data.
>8kB of disk space per Favorite is NOT the ideal.
>
>Being able to view Mozilla's bookmarks.html as a page (and click items)
>is also a nice option--not available with IE's Favorites.
>
>|e.g. I have a single file,
>|
>You have a MULTITUDE of files--8kB each.
>
>|and can place it anywhere,
>|i.e. on my desktop for 'quick access' to the site or in a folder.
>|
>Your inability to use your system effectively is YOUR problem.
>I've never had a problem making new shortcuts from existing items;
>Mozilla bookmarks are no exception.
>Read the Subject line of this post again.
>
>|Another annoyance:
>|If I have a web page (stored on my drive) with a link to a word document
>|in it or a program, firefox treats it like a download...
>|
>I have no idea what you are on about.
>Expecting a Web browser to open M$Office files is foolish.
>Another typical M$ fanboi defense of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish
>and proprietary junk rather than OPEN standards.
>
>If I want to create an HTML file,
>I use the integral HTML Editor (Mozilla Composer) in SeaMonkey.
>KompoZer is available (gratis and libre) for Firefox users.
>I don't use M$Office at all.
>
>|with IE, it realises [it] on my own drive
>|& opens the document/program without any prompt
>|(it opens a .txt or .ppt within the IE browser
>|so i dont have to access [its] window).
>|
>I have OpenOffice for dealing with M$Office files.
>I don't have a problem opening documents.
>...and embedding links to M$Office docs in HTML pages
>is more clueless M$ fanboi stuff.
>
>|Firefox start page/search bar has Google 'tightly-embedded' in it,
>|
>I use SeaMonkey (FF's big brother) and I set my Start Page to about:blank.
>Firefox can do the same.
>Preferences can be easily changed thru menus or with about:config.
>You have no idea what you are talking about.
>
>|& they’re obviously bad on privacy.
>|
>I have no idea what you think you are talking about.
>
>I do a Ctrl+H to pull up my browser history and can delete _any_ item(s) I want
>--and Edit; Preference; Advanced; Cache; Clear Cache deletes *that* record.
>(I do wish *that* required fewer clicks
>--but there ARE tweaks for that; I just haven't bothered with them.)
>
>There are also numerous extensions for Mozilla browsers like NoScript;
>the extensions available for IE can't compare even slightly.
>
>|IE may stored data in the registry,
>|
>There's no "may" about it.
>
>|but I securely wipe my drive and 'fresh install' every 6/7 months,
>|providing I keep the drivers.
>|
>That's one way to do it--the foolish way.
>Using a BETTER browser that has an easily-editable history
>and which doesn't constantly put crap in the Registry is the SMART way to do it.
>
>Using an OS that doesn't have a Windoze Registry removes the issue completely.



Written in response to:
re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue. (gewg_: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 5:11 pm)

Responses to this message:
*re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue (especially WRT Internet Exploder) (gewg_: Monday, June 29, 2009 at 11:27 am)

All messages in this thread [show all]
-Which Firefox for Installing on 98SE? (Kit: Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 2:48 pm)
-re: Which Firefox for Installing on 98SE? (Steve: Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 3:04 pm)
-re: Which Firefox for Installing on 98SE? (Kit: Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 3:21 pm)
-re: Which Firefox for Installing on 98SE? (Steve: Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 3:45 pm)
*re: Which Firefox for Installing on 98SE? (gewg_: Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 5:57 pm)
-re: Firefox - TERRIFIC! But One Little Problem (Follow-Up) (Kit: Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 8:23 pm)
-Can't play Flash media at YouTube with my TERRIFIC new Firefox browser (gewg_: Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 11:20 pm)
-Follow Up: Firefox Problem Solved Without Linux! Was My question Off-Topic? (Kit: Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 2:43 pm)
*re: Follow Up: Firefox Problem Solved Without Linux! Was My question Off-Topic? (Ms. Eagle: Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 5:00 pm)
-re: Follow Up: Firefox Problem Solved Without Linux! Was My question Off-Topic? (gewg_: Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 5:43 pm)
-re: Follow Up: Firefox Problem Solved Without Linux! Was My question Off-Topic? (Ms. Eagle: Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 7:27 pm)
-re: Follow Up: Firefox Problem Solved Without Linux! Was My question Off-Topic? (gewg_: Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 7:42 pm)
*re: Follow Up: Firefox Problem Solved Without Linux! Was My question Off-Topic? (Ms. Eagle: Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 9:12 pm)
-re: Follow Up: Firefox Problem Solved Without Linux! Was My question Off-Topic? (Steve: Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 5:46 pm)
*re: Thanks to All for Topic Clarification (Kit: Sun, Mar 8, 2009, 8:41 am)
-re: Which Firefox for Installing on 98SE? (runsan: Sun, Mar 1, 2009, 4:36 pm)
-As usual, "runsan" has no clue. (gewg_: Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:24 pm)
-re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue. (runsan: Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 1:16 pm)
-re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue. (gewg_: Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 5:11 pm)
-re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue. (runsan: Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 5:33 pm)
-re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue (especially WRT Internet Exploder) (gewg_: Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 11:27 am)
*re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue (especially WRT Internet Exploder) (runsan: Wed, Jul 1, 2009, 1:21 am)
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