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re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others
Friday, July 17, 2009 at 7:47 pm
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Posted by Arminius (334 messages posted)


gewg wrote:
|You need to remove your blinders/blinkers (aka Step away from the Kool-Aid cup).
|Your argument pre-supposes that *everyone* buys Windoze.
|See "tying" (below).  See also "a la carte".
Hey! Who's arguing? I simply asked a question. I thought the topic was IE6. Relax 
and have a drink gewg, and I mean something stronger than Kool-Aid.

|Internet Exploder, however, isn't a stand-alone product.
|You need an ecosystem that supports IE (e.g. M$ stopped supporting IE on Mac).
|This means that in order to use IE, you must purchase Windoze[1]
|and in order to use *the latest* IE, you must purchase *the latest* Windoze.
I doubt there would be very many people out there who bought the latest version of 
Windows for the expressed purpose of being able to use the latest version of IE. 
A decline in IE usage doesn't necessarily correlate with a decline in Windows usage.

|Requiring someone to buy one product in order to get another product
|is called "tying" and it is illegal in most countries.
|The You-must-buy-Windows-to-get-our-PC thing is the most blatent example.
|The European Union / European Commission is currently holding the line on M$.
Microsoft isn't the only guilty party here. The PC manufacturers (assemblers really) 
deserve a good share of the blame. I don't believe they are innocent victims of MS's 
bullying. By limiting their products to a single OS they can keep their costs down 
(maximize their profits), a symbiotic relationship as I see it.

I never thought including a browser or media player with the OS was a problem. In 
fact I would be disappointed if it didn't include one. New users eventually figure 
out there are better third party options than the one that shipped with the OS. So 
why all the lawsuits? PC suppliers have the ability to preload any browser they want 
at the factory, some of the responsiblity lies with them. You don't hear the people 
who put out text editors complaining about Notepad do you? Or developers of graphics 
programs complaining about MS Paint?

The things that bother me most about MS:
1). The ever increasing hardware requirements to run their OS (and the increased 
amount of energy required to run it).
2). Product activation.
3). The ever increasing lack of backwards compatiblity.
4). Planned obselescence.
5). DRM. Digital Rights Management.
6). Cost, yeah it ain't cheap.





Written in response to:
re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (gewg_: Friday, July 17, 2009 at 11:24 am)

Responses to this message:
*re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (gewg_: Friday, July 17, 2009 at 10:03 pm)

All messages in this thread [show all]
-The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (gewg_: Wed, Jul 15, 2009, 4:43 pm)
-re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (Steve: Wed, Jul 15, 2009, 6:46 pm)
-re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (gewg_: Wed, Jul 15, 2009, 8:36 pm)
-re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (Steve: Thu, Jul 16, 2009, 5:41 am)
-M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (gewg_: Thu, Jul 16, 2009, 1:39 pm)
-re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (Arminius: Fri, Jul 17, 2009, 6:06 am)
-re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (gewg_: Fri, Jul 17, 2009, 11:24 am)
-re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (Arminius: Fri, Jul 17, 2009, 7:47 pm)
*re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (gewg_: Fri, Jul 17, 2009, 10:03 pm)
*re: M$'s attempts to dominate the Web via incompatibility torques off old M$ users and others (Steve: Sat, Jul 18, 2009, 3:27 pm)
-re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (Keith Stanier: Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 6:04 am)
-re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (Steve: Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 7:22 am)
-re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (gewg_: Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 12:26 pm)
-re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (Steve: Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 4:00 pm)
*re: The death knell sounds again for Internet Exploder 6 (gewg_: Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 7:01 pm)
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