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re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete
Friday, August 7, 2009 at 11:05 pm
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Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)


gewg wrote:
||I question the wisdom of people
||who recommend spending money on this unsupported 10 - 11 year old OS.
||
Arminius wrote:
|Well.... annoyances.org has an antipiracy policy and the rules must be obeyed.
|
I'm not saying to pirate anything.
I'm saying don't consider replacing obsolete stuff with yet more unsupported stuff.
If you're going to *pay* for something that's _not_ obsolete,
you'll get payware that likely won't run on your W98-era hardware.
Even W2k will soon be unsupported.
Don't throw good money after bad.  Just avoid payware.
Outside VERY vertical markets, it's an obsolete concept.

|If someone posts a question about a specific piece of software IE or OE,
|I try to answer the question
|rather than try to talk them into using some other program.
|
It reminds me of the old question "Do you still beat your wife?"
cache 
of  http://www.computer-dictionary-online.org/Mu.htm

Again, the CERT advisory on IE is over 5 years old.
cache 
of  http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878

The advice was (and still is) Use ANY other browser.
With OE tying into IE, don't use OE either.

|Besides, we have YOU for that. 8-)
|
I'll take all the help I can get.  There are more than enough botnets already.

||The online apps provided by Micros~1 are the WORST available of their class.
||Better, more modern, more secure stuff has been available FOR YEARS for FREE.
||
|When IE is upgraded[,] a number of other components are upgraded
|whether you use IE or not.
|
Valid point.

|Upgrading IE after a clean install of Win98 is a good idea
|even if you have no intention of using IE.  The alternative
|is to have an even older unpatched version of IE on your computer.
|
I recommend that everyone tweak his software firewall to block IE.
The issue of IE's state (lousy security) then becomes moot.
After that, use a browser that isn't an open wound just waiting to be infected.
The last remaining online use for IE6 was Windows Update.  Its time has passed.

What's left is the HTML rendering engine.
IE6's standards compliance is a bad joke so all that is left for it to do
is rendering stuff like the Windoze Help system and other poorly-coded apps
that aren't smart enough to call the *default* browser.

||If you have at least 256MB of RAM, Linux Mint is AWESOME.
||
|I think most of those Ubuntu clones recommend 512MB of RAM
|
Well, as always, the more you have the nicer it is.
192MB is the minimum specified for the Gnome/KDE *buntu variants.
At that level, you'll end up turning off eye candy, but it will run.
Mint also has Xfce and Fluxbox variants that will run in 128MB.
In addition, another light version built around LXDE should be out any time now.
Mint is just smokin'.

||Here's the best part:
||You don't have to *install* Linux to try it; you can run it from the "LiveCD"
||
|Seems to be a good way to copy files from a Win98 computer to a thumb drive
|even if the the thumb drive is not supported under Win98.
|
Yup.  Bootable Linux CDs are the best thing since sliced bread.
I always smile when Linux rescues Windoze's fragile butt
...and I always frown when a brain-dead Windoze install nukes Linux.

|I don't know if you got my reply to the e-mail you sent me.
|
Yeah, I did.

|I think one of the reasons Linux isn't more popular
|is that quite a number of commands still need to be typed
|
Your anecdotes are extremely dated.
Almost everything these days has a GUI version.
Typing is more efficient in many cases, but it's rarely mandatory.

|whereas in Windows
|just about everything can be accomplished with a mouse click.
|
Typically it takes more time searching and clicking
--and takes a lot more than a single click.
Most newbies working at a command line are cutting & pasting text anyway.

|On the other hand Linux is becoming more popular thanks to Vista. 
|
When all the PC magazines' writers started calling Vista junk
(what with their bread & butter being M$ ads) you knew the end was near.

I just saw that Brazil (5th most populous) is converting all its schools to Linux.
Malaysia's government (including schools & everything else) is converting too;
they're 64% completed.

|It would be interesting to see if the trend continues with Windows 7.
|
...aka Vista SP3.
The only power M$ has left is its ability to buy off politicians
(and with M$ stock headed downward, that is waning).
To be generous to M$, on technical issues, at best there is parity;
bad design choices (like poor modularity and miserable security)
and trying to hide its flaws behind closed-source code
have put M$ on the losing side of history.  It's only a matter of time now.




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re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Arminius: Friday, August 7, 2009 at 9:26 pm)

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-clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Marjorie: Sun, Aug 2, 2009, 3:33 pm)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Keith Stanier: Mon, Aug 3, 2009, 4:48 am)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Marjorie: Mon, Aug 3, 2009, 7:14 pm)
*re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Keith Stanier: Tue, Aug 4, 2009, 6:29 am)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Arminius: Tue, Aug 4, 2009, 5:43 pm)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Marjorie: Thu, Aug 6, 2009, 7:29 am)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Keith Stanier: Thu, Aug 6, 2009, 12:13 pm)
*re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (gewg_: Thu, Aug 6, 2009, 8:31 pm)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Arminius: Fri, Aug 7, 2009, 5:45 am)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (gewg_: Fri, Aug 7, 2009, 12:05 pm)
-re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (Arminius: Fri, Aug 7, 2009, 9:26 pm)
*re: clean-up after OE tantrum delete (gewg_: Fri, Aug 7, 2009, 11:05 pm)
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