Annoyances.org
Home » Windows 98 Discussion Forum » Message 1265664777 Search | Help | Home
  
Tip: Run a free scan for common Windows errors ad

re: IE6 being phased out at Google
Monday, February 8, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Windows 98 Annoyances Discussion Forum
Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)


Arminius wrote:
|It looks like IE6 isn't quite dead yet.
|
Professional Web developers welcome the demise of any version of IE
--especially IE6.
It significantly increases their workload when they have to support IE 
(as opposed to ALL of the other browsers, which are more standards-compliant).
Given the powerhouse that Google is, with their announcement, IE6 is officially dead.
It gives others carte blanche to follow suit.

|The solution:
|http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winme/1265416154
|
Your link appears to be a circuitous reference to spoofing the User Agent String.
That is NOT a solution to developers *not* bending over backwards
to include additional code in the pages they serve up
as to **specifically** work around IE6's HORRIBLE compliance with standards.

Again, IE just sucks at rendering HTML/CSS because first Spyglass, Inc. then M$
built it in MANY MANY ways that are NOT compliant with W3C standards.[1]
cache 
of  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Acid3

|Some web designers appear to be just as moronical
|as some of the developers at Microsoft and perhaps more so.
|
While I won't argue with that generalization, and I agree that
MANY webmasters have no clue about how to PROPERLY sniff for browsers
(we see this all the time on the SeaMonkey newsgroup),
what you are talking about in no way describes what Google
--and before that, the Norwegian developers--are doing.

The Wikimedia link more clearly demonstrates the problem:
proper interpretation of W3C-compliant code by browsers.
cache 
of  http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/01/145231#26291983

cache 
of  http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/30/140230#15232102


[1] Granted, some of the standards were adopted *after* IE6 was initially built,
but M$ never went back and corrected the brokenness.
Bad piled onto more bad, and now it is just a steaming pile that developers despise.
ALL versions of IE are shades of the same story.
(Again, the Wikimedia page shows their badness with actual numbers.)

...and the whole point of Internet Exploder was to marginalize the Web
(which it turns out M$ couldn't contol and therefore couldn't monopolize).
The existance of IE and M$'s attitude toward the Web set back the Web YEARS.
IE is yet another example of how M$ is a anti-competitive corp in steep decline.

The real silliness of IE is that it isn't even compliant WITH ITSELF.
(Like all of M$'s junk, version-to-version consistency is crap.)
cache 
of  http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/03/1628219#14637658

cache 
of  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/19/2056228#26923297

Some additional cogent comments from the front lines:
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/28/2348256&threshold=4#14136520

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=238141&cid=19469619&threshold=2#19469619

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1215303&cid=27762267&threshold=5#27762267

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=189027&cid=15571108&threshold=5#15571108




Written in response to:
re: IE6 being phased out at Google (Arminius: Monday, February 8, 2010 at 7:45 am)

Responses to this message:
*re: IE6 being phased out at Google (Arminius: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 at 4:40 am)

All messages in this thread [show all]
-IE6 being phased out at Google (sekirt: Mon, Feb 1, 2010, 4:35 am)
*re: IE6 being phased out at Google (gewg_: Mon, Feb 1, 2010, 11:14 am)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (jack hall: Thu, Feb 4, 2010, 8:39 am)
*re: IE6 being phased out at Google (gewg_: Thu, Feb 4, 2010, 12:26 pm)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (sekirt: Thu, Feb 4, 2010, 5:25 pm)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (jack hall: Thu, Feb 4, 2010, 6:28 pm)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (gewg_: Fri, Feb 5, 2010, 10:43 am)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (Arminius: Sun, Feb 7, 2010, 6:31 am)
*re: IE6 being phased out at Google (gewg_: Sun, Feb 7, 2010, 12:09 pm)
*re: IE6 being phased out at Google (sekirt: Sat, Feb 6, 2010, 6:51 am)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (Arminius: Mon, Feb 8, 2010, 7:45 am)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (gewg_: Mon, Feb 8, 2010, 1:32 pm)
-re: IE6 being phased out at Google (Arminius: Tue, Feb 9, 2010, 4:40 am)
*re: IE6 being phased out at Google (gewg_: Tue, Feb 9, 2010, 9:29 pm)
-Spoofing the User Agent in IE6, in Firefox, and in Opera (Ed: Thu, Feb 11, 2010, 4:10 am)
-re: Spoofing the User Agent [won't solve the problem] (gewg_: Thu, Feb 11, 2010, 10:04 am)
-re: Spoofing the User Agent [won't solve the problem] (douglas: Sun, Feb 21, 2010, 1:38 am)
*re: Spoofing the User Agent [won't solve the problem] (gewg_: Sun, Feb 21, 2010, 11:32 am)
-re: Spoofing the User Agent [won't solve the problem] MORE DETAILS (gewg_: Tue, Jul 5, 2011, 7:31 pm)
-Requirements for using HTML5 websites (gewg_: Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 12:05 pm)
-re: Requirements for using HTML5 websites (Arminius: Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 4:17 pm)
-re: Requirements for using HTML5 websites (gewg_: Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 5:26 pm)
-re: Requirements for using HTML5 websites (Arminius: Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 6:15 pm)
-re: Requirements for using HTML5 websites (gewg_: Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 11:21 pm)
-re: Requirements for using HTML5 websites (Arminius: Fri, Aug 12, 2011, 6:13 am)
*re: Requirements for using HTML5 websites (gewg_: Fri, Aug 12, 2011, 2:37 pm)
-re: Spoofing the User Agent in IE6, in Firefox, and in Opera (gerald Keene: Thu, May 5, 2011, 12:09 pm)
-re: Spoofing the User Agent in IE6, in Firefox, and in Opera (Ed: Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 6:06 am)
*re: Spoofing the User Agent [is a waste of time for this] (gewg_: Mon, Jul 18, 2011, 1:46 pm)
Return to the Windows 98 Discussion Forum


All content at Annoyances.org is Copyright ©1995-2012 Creative Elementtm All rights reserved.
Please do not plagiarize; redistributing these pages without permission is strictly prohibited.