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re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 11:00 am Posted by Michael (2800 messages posted) Unless you have one of the machines running a server OS, you won't get them to see each other if your transport medium is UTP. With coax you could use a terminator on one of the cables (with a T-connector), but you will have problems otherwise. On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, December 12, 2001 at 2:52 am Posted by Matthew (2 messages posted) You need to right-click the Win 98 (i think) machine's connection and make the 'Domain' and 'Workgroup' names the same. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, December 27, 2001 at 5:44 am Posted by Wim Remes (1 messages posted) I have a problem that goes in the same direction. My LAN consists of a 98 Desktop & an XP Desktop. The 98 is running a proxy server for obvious reasons (ICS suxx big time). In the beginning only internet was working for both PC's but they couldn't see eachother on the LAN. Then I found that I need to specifically enable NetBIOS on the XP machine and boom it just found all the shares,printers,... just like that ... (uPnP...oops)... I can access the shares on the 98 machine from XP without a prob, but not the other way around (no it is not an NTFS issue). Furthermore, I am unable to play games on the internet from the XP machine AND it is impossible to upload files (e.g. through ICQ) ... Ping -> OK HTTP -> OK HTTPS -> OK SMTP -> OK POP -> OK Any thoughts, let me know ... cheers; Wim mail me ! On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, December 30, 2001 at 3:33 pm Posted by Gerald (1 messages posted) My goodness, you are a genious. So simple. Thx. On Wednesday, December 12, 2001 at 2:52 am, Matthew R McAllum wrote: >You need to right-click the Win 98 (i think) machine's connection and make the 'Domain' >and 'Workgroup' names the same. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 10:47 pm Posted by IT Admin (3 messages posted) I have the same problem as you, so have you found an answer yet? IT Admin On Thursday, December 27, 2001 at 5:44 am, Wim Remes wrote: >I have a problem that goes in the same direction. >My LAN consists of a 98 Desktop & an XP Desktop. >The 98 is running a proxy server for obvious reasons (ICS suxx big time). >In the beginning only internet was working for both PC's but they couldn't see eachother >on the LAN. Then I found that I need to specifically enable NetBIOS on the XP machine >and boom it just found all the shares,printers,... just like that ... (uPnP...oops)... >I can access the shares on the 98 machine from XP without a prob, but not the other >way around (no it is not an NTFS issue). Furthermore, I am unable to play games on >the internet from the XP machine AND it is impossible to upload files (e.g. through >ICQ) ... >Ping -> OK >HTTP -> OK >HTTPS -> OK >SMTP -> OK >POP -> OK > >Any thoughts, let me know ... > >cheers; > >Wim > >mail me ! > > > >On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 5:46 pm Posted by Phil Docker (1 messages posted) I have had a real problem with XP and Win 98 talking. I have just solved it. My problem was that I could not even 'ping' myself, using typing 'ping 127.0.0.1' at the ms dos prompt in Xp. I found it to be NORTON PERSONAL FIREWALL 2002. I unistalled it now my network works great, both was xp-90 and 98-xp. My advice is download the free home firewall on the Sygate web site and throw norton away.... All the best Phil On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 11:00 am, Michael wrote: >Unless you have one of the machines running a server OS, you won't get them to see >each other if your transport medium is UTP. >With coax you could use a terminator on one of the cables (with a T-connector), but >you will have problems otherwise. > > >On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 9:53 pm Posted by Mike (1 messages posted) >the internet from the XP machine AND it is impossible to upload files (e.g. through >ICQ) This is due to the lack of open ports to the Windows XP machine from Windows 98. The best configuration I suggest is to REVERT the settings. Remove the proxy server from Windows 98, turn on ICS on Windows XP. Turn on the firewall as well and go to configure the open ports in network properties for the internet connection. Set a static IP for both the computers(when you enable ICS on XP it automatically sets it as 192.168.0.1 with a subnet of 255.255.255.0) so you only really need to set it for the Windows 98 machine. Force the IP of 192.168.0.1 and subnet 255.255.255.0. Next go to the gateway tab and add 192.168.0.1. On the DNS tab, enable DNS, type in anything for the DNS Name(i'm not sure if that makes a difference but apparently not), and add the dns server 192.168.0.1 and then click OK. Reboot and it should work. On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 10:47 pm, IT Admin wrote: >I have the same problem as you, so have you found an answer yet? > >IT Admin > > >On Thursday, December 27, 2001 at 5:44 am, Wim Remes wrote: >I have a problem that goes in the same direction. >My LAN consists of a 98 Desktop & an XP Desktop. >The 98 is running a proxy server for obvious reasons (ICS suxx big time). >In the beginning only internet was working for both PC's but they couldn't see eachother >on the LAN. Then I found that I need to specifically enable NetBIOS on the XP machine >and boom it just found all the shares,printers,... just like that ... (uPnP...oops)... >I can access the shares on the 98 machine from XP without a prob, but not the other >way around (no it is not an NTFS issue). Furthermore, I am unable to play games >on >the internet from the XP machine AND it is impossible to upload files (e.g. through >ICQ) ... >Ping -> OK >HTTP -> OK >HTTPS -> OK >SMTP -> OK >POP -> OK > >Any thoughts, let me know ... > >cheers; > >Wim > >mail me ! > > > >On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect > >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop > >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine > >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 > >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can > >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, > >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any > >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not > >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file > >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 8:26 pm Posted by jase (13 messages posted) This is a temporary solution to access shared resources on the xp machine from the 98 machine. open a command prompt on 98 machine. enter in "net view \\ip address of xp machine" dont need the quotes now enter "net view \\name of xp machine" this only works for the current session. you will now be able to access xp shares in network neighbourhood. It must be a problem with netbios naming as i understand it. Hope it helps. On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, May 2, 2002 at 5:45 pm Posted by jon mullkin (1 messages posted) hey, ime aving troubles with internet file sharing between two networked computers. my main aim is to try to share between PC's over the net. hope you can help me. i have turned file sharing on but it doesn't do anything. i would rather not install any files because my pc is already too overloaded with crap. do you have any trouble shooting tips? thanx jon [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, June 10, 2002 at 9:41 am Posted by Rob Galante (1 messages posted) I had the same problem with the following configuration. I have a home network with one XP desktop and one Windows 98 desktop. Neither machine could see the other. When I pinged the machines, I found that the XP machine had an IP address of 169.254.78.1 and the 98 machine had an IP address of 192.168.0.112. So I did some research and found out that when XP or Windows 2000 machines do not receive their IP addresses from a DHCP server, they assign one to themselves from Alternative Private IP Addressing (APIPA), which uses non-routable IP Addresses between 169.254.0.0 and 169.254.255.254, and a mask of 255.255.0.0. So I removed APIPA from the registry by creating a DWORD value for the value 'IPAutoconfigurationEnabled ' at the following registry key and initialized it to 0 (It's not there by default and assumes a value of 1). HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\CLSID Then I assigned a static IP Address to my XP machine of 192.168.0.1. Note that the CLSID changes for each interface defined on your machine. So search each interface for the one that has the Alternative Private IP stuff in it and add the value above. Now, I can share a printer on my XP machine, and my 98 box sees it and uses it. And both machines can see each other. On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 4:26 pm Posted by Sandra (1 messages posted) On Thursday, May 2, 2002 at 5:45 pm, jon mullkin wrote: >hey, ime aving troubles with internet file sharing between two networked computers. > my main aim is to try to share between PC's over the net. >hope you can help me. >i have turned file sharing on but it doesn't do anything. i would rather not install >any files because my pc is already too overloaded with crap. > >do you have any trouble shooting tips? >thanx >jon a) most ISPs block Netbios over internet connections due to viruses. b) install file and printer sharing and enable it for your internet tcp/ip connection (whether it be ethernet or dial-up adaptor) c) this is a VERY bad idea. If your ISP allows netbios over tcp/ip, you are very prone to attack. [Reply or follow-up to this message] Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 3:25 am Posted by tim (2 messages posted) I have 2 winxp and 2 win98SE, I've figured out how to make them see each other and share files and printers, and I've deleted the registry key on the winxp machines to stop them for checking out for printers and whatsits. My problem is that the winxp computers can transfer files pretty quick but when it comes to transferring from win98 to xp the network speed is really slow, before i upgraded the 2 xps from win98, all computers used to have relatively fast speeds (for coax) Is there a way to increase the speed between the two different win OS's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Saturday, September 7, 2002 at 2:44 pm Posted by CHris (1 messages posted) I was waiting for someone to post something about this. I was starting to think it was just me. Before I built an XP machine, I had all perfect-working Win98SE machines talking at full 100Mb ethernet. Since I simply added an XP machine to the network, the traffic across it was dropped. When from the XP machine, trying to move or copy files, it takes nearly an entire minute for the transfer to even begin(And when you're WAITING, a minute can be a very long time). I've heard of a patch for this.. But I'm probably being mislead, because I've never seen anyone else have the problem. I'm still looking, but I'm hoping someone has an idea on why XP is being retarted like this. The other funny thing. When connecting to an FTP server I'm running on the XP machine, it's a decent speed. On Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 3:25 am, tim wrote: >I have 2 winxp and 2 win98SE, I've figured out how to make them see each other and >share files and printers, and I've deleted the registry key on the winxp machines >to stop them for checking out for printers and whatsits. > >My problem is that the winxp computers can transfer files pretty quick but when it >comes to transferring from win98 to xp the network speed is really slow, before i >upgraded the 2 xps from win98, all computers used to have relatively fast speeds >(for coax) > >Is there a way to increase the speed between the two different win OS's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, September 22, 2002 at 9:52 pm Posted by pann1128 (1 messages posted) Thanks for the tip on the NetBios. Don't now if you already solved the problem of accessing Win XP file from your Win98 computer. I had the same problem, and I resolved it by going to the the "Properties" for each drive (from Windows Explorer) on the XP and adding a user in the "Security" menu. This user must have the same username/password on both machines. On Thursday, December 27, 2001 at 5:44 am, Wim Remes wrote: >I have a problem that goes in the same direction. >My LAN consists of a 98 Desktop & an XP Desktop. >The 98 is running a proxy server for obvious reasons (ICS suxx big time). >In the beginning only internet was working for both PC's but they couldn't see eachother >on the LAN. Then I found that I need to specifically enable NetBIOS on the XP machine >and boom it just found all the shares,printers,... just like that ... (uPnP...oops)... >I can access the shares on the 98 machine from XP without a prob, but not the other >way around (no it is not an NTFS issue). Furthermore, I am unable to play games on >the internet from the XP machine AND it is impossible to upload files (e.g. through >ICQ) ... >Ping -> OK >HTTP -> OK >HTTPS -> OK >SMTP -> OK >POP -> OK > >Any thoughts, let me know ... > >cheers; > >Wim > >mail me ! > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Monday, September 30, 2002 at 9:14 am Posted by Dan Hoelker (2 messages posted) The basic issue here is that Windows XP (or 2000) assumes it is talking to a server. If you had Windows NT or 2000 server on the box that has 98 on it things would be fine. There is something differerent in the TCP stacks (I think) that causes this problem. I have seen a work-around for this in the past (having the same problem at home myself after going to XP yesterday), and I was searching for it again when I ran across your post. As I recall it is a registry change to change a TCP parameter (don't recall on which end). If I find it again I will send another reply On Saturday, September 7, 2002 at 2:44 pm, CHris wrote: >I was waiting for someone to post something about this. I was starting to think >it was just me. Before I built an XP machine, I had all perfect-working Win98SE >machines talking at full 100Mb ethernet. Since I simply added an XP machine to the >network, the traffic across it was dropped. When from the XP machine, trying to >move or copy files, it takes nearly an entire minute for the transfer to even begin(And >when you're WAITING, a minute can be a very long time). I've heard of a patch for >this.. But I'm probably being mislead, because I've never seen anyone else have the >problem. I'm still looking, but I'm hoping someone has an idea on why XP is being >retarted like this. The other funny thing. When connecting to an FTP server I'm >running on the XP machine, it's a decent speed. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 7:47 am Posted by curtis (1 messages posted) i have a network of an xp deskto and a win 98 desktop and a router. the router takes care of the internet connection using DHCP and also has a built in switch which is my network medium as well. the computers work great together. just leave domain alone and name the workgroups the same and have netbios enabled on both machine as the network protocal and tcp/ip as your internet protocal. have fun and enjoy the joys of networking On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 5:08 pm Posted by Mark (1 messages posted) Chris, Have you had any luck resolving you problem? I have been looking for a solution also. I have a Win98se Desktop and a XP Laptop on a home 10/100 network using a Linksys Cable/DSL router. I can copy files from the Win98 machine to the XP machine OK. A 7Mb file takes less than 10 seconds but going from XP to Win98 takes about 6 or 7 minutes. I did find a work around on the Microsoft site (Knowledge Base Article Q315237) for XP but it didn't help. Don't know what else to check. Thanks! On Saturday, September 7, 2002 at 2:44 pm, CHris wrote: >I was waiting for someone to post something about this. I was starting to think >it was just me. Before I built an XP machine, I had all perfect-working Win98SE >machines talking at full 100Mb ethernet. Since I simply added an XP machine to the >network, the traffic across it was dropped. When from the XP machine, trying to >move or copy files, it takes nearly an entire minute for the transfer to even begin(And >when you're WAITING, a minute can be a very long time). I've heard of a patch for >this.. But I'm probably being mislead, because I've never seen anyone else have the >problem. I'm still looking, but I'm hoping someone has an idea on why XP is being >retarted like this. The other funny thing. When connecting to an FTP server I'm >running on the XP machine, it's a decent speed. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Friday, October 18, 2002 at 1:49 pm Posted by dennis ellis (1 messages posted) I think my problem is the saem as I have read here. I had two win 2k machines networked through an smc router and transerring files took no time at all. THen I installed XP on one of the machines (both with clean installs BTW) and transerring files form the win2k machine to the XP machine take forever. Please let me know if anyone finds a cure. de On Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 5:08 pm, Mark wrote: >Chris, Have you had any luck resolving you problem? I have been looking for a solution >also. I have a Win98se Desktop and a XP Laptop on a home 10/100 network using a Linksys >Cable/DSL router. I can copy files from the Win98 machine to the XP machine OK. >A 7Mb file takes less than 10 seconds but going from XP to Win98 takes about 6 or >7 minutes. I did find a work around on the Microsoft site (Knowledge Base Article >Q315237) for XP but it didn't help. Don't know what else to check. Thanks! > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 7:50 pm Posted by Eric (1 messages posted) I am having this same problem. I have an XP machine network to another computer with Windows 98. I can find the comoptuer on the network but it takes forever to transfer files. I try to transfer a 5 mb file and it take 3 or 4 minutes. Has anyone figured out the problem to this? Please help On Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 5:08 pm, Mark wrote: >Chris, Have you had any luck resolving you problem? I have been looking for a solution >also. I have a Win98se Desktop and a XP Laptop on a home 10/100 network using a Linksys >Cable/DSL router. I can copy files from the Win98 machine to the XP machine OK. >A 7Mb file takes less than 10 seconds but going from XP to Win98 takes about 6 or >7 minutes. I did find a work around on the Microsoft site (Knowledge Base Article >Q315237) for XP but it didn't help. Don't know what else to check. Thanks! > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 (yeah its a b*tch) Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 3:33 am Posted by Nico (1 messages posted) i have the same problem. i have 1 98SE and 1 XP pro running in a simple network with a crosscable/switch (without internet yet, i want to get this running first) if i connect one of the computer directly to the cablemodem on the LAN it works perfectly but when i connect them to eachother they can see eachother and share files but takes it hours to transfer a simple file from one station to the other. also when i look at the networking tab in "windows task manager" the network utilization doesn't get any higher than 2%. i found some information about it on a site that has the same problem when using their product and the're still "investgating" the problem.... (AAAAARHG! i need it fixed now! :) ) > >Below is from a site about ACT!6.0 > >Situation: You have a LAN with multiple Windows machines that are running various versions of Windows prior to XP (an assortment of Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000 configurations is possible). A single PC running Windows XP has been introduced into your network. The user of this machine has ACT! installed, and accesses a database stored in a network location (not on the local machine). The network works fine on all machines, until the Windows XP machine enters ACT! At that point, all machines on the network except the Windows XP machine slow to a crawl, whether in ACT! or any other program. The Windows XP machine still continues to function without problem. > >Solution: Network Collision Resolution This behavior is still under investigation. We believe it may be the result of an optimization in the way Windows XP's TCP/IP backoff protocol deals with network collisions. When a single Windows XP machine resides on a LAN, it may be forgoing the standard backoff algorithm, thereby flooding the network and preventing the other machines from retransmitting. This problem could be encountered with any high-bandwidth operation. ACT! can generate a considerable amount of network traffic if you have several users accessing a shared database. so therefore exposes the issue. > >We suspect the slow-down will be most noticeable on a LAN which employs hubs rather than switches (hubs broadcast network packets, effectively flooding all machines). > >This hypothesis resulted from a document found in the Microsoft Knowledge Base. It specifically addresses 'High Rate of Collisions on 100-MB Networks: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q315237. Refer to that document for registry modifications for customizing the adaptive backoff algorithm. On Saturday, September 7, 2002 at 2:44 pm, CHris wrote: >I was waiting for someone to post something about this. I was starting to think >it was just me. Before I built an XP machine, I had all perfect-working Win98SE >machines talking at full 100Mb ethernet. Since I simply added an XP machine to the >network, the traffic across it was dropped. When from the XP machine, trying to >move or copy files, it takes nearly an entire minute for the transfer to even begin(And >when you're WAITING, a minute can be a very long time). I've heard of a patch for >this.. But I'm probably being mislead, because I've never seen anyone else have the >problem. I'm still looking, but I'm hoping someone has an idea on why XP is being >retarted like this. The other funny thing. When connecting to an FTP server I'm >running on the XP machine, it's a decent speed. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 5:54 am Posted by Rob Rowe (1 messages posted) Read all this thread and experienced most of the problems until I visited ... http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/net-update.asp Followed the tuturial and it all works! Good Luck! On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 10:58 am Posted by Shaun (4 messages posted) I have 1 * xp pro machine and 1 * 98 machine connected directly by a cross over cable. The cable and network cards appear to be working ok as the leds repond at either end to something done at the ie. if one machine has its connection speed set to auto it will change in response to alterations made on the other machine. Both machines can ping themselves but not each other. The xp machine shows the name of the 98 machine when I open 'view workgroup computers'. The 98 machine will not let me browse the entire network at all. I have tried turning off xp's internet firewall and a different cross cable to no avail. Any help would be greatly appriciated. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 11:48 am Posted by Shaun (4 messages posted) I have 1 * xp pro machine and 1 * 98 machine connected directly by a cross over cable. The cable and network cards appear to be working ok as the leds repond at either end to something done at the ie. if one machine has its connection speed set to auto it will change in response to alterations made on the other machine. Both machines can ping themselves but not each other. The xp machine shows the name of the 98 machine when I open 'view workgroup computers'. The 98 machine will not let me browse the entire network at all. I have tried turning off xp's internet firewall and a different cross cable to no avail. Any help would be greatly appriciated. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Friday, November 1, 2002 at 7:04 am Posted by Alexander Blanco (1 messages posted) I've had the same problem and what worked was opening the windows explorer, then select Tools...Folder Options. Select the Tab View and in the Advanced Settings List Box make sure that Simple File Sharing is disabled. Let me know if this works On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, December 2, 2002 at 4:43 pm Posted by Joel (1 messages posted) I had a bunch of issues with my Win98 box and saw above the "net view \\ip" command. That works, but like the guy said it's only temporary. Does somebody know why this works? And how to solve this type of problem permantly? thanx to all =) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 7:08 am Posted by bill truxon (1 messages posted) Some really incorrect answers....if you want all of these machines to talk, make sure you have tcp/ip protocol on all....ealier verions of windows default network protocol was netbeiu....2000, nt, xp, me default is tcp/ip....as long as you have tcpip protocol loaded, and the same workgroup name for all, with file/print sharing loadded, everything will work...thanks On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 1:48 pm Posted by anon (64 messages posted) I had a similar problem, My XP machines had no problem identifying the 98 machine... however the windows 98 machine refused to identify the network neighbourhood, untill NETBEUI was added to the networking protocols.... Hope it helps.. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, December 30, 2002 at 12:26 pm Posted by Anonymizer (1 messages posted) ** I have (1) ME PC and (2) XP's. ** The shared folder(s) on the ME PC were shared as "Full Access Depending On Password". ** Could see the opposing (2) PCs from each PC and their shares ** Could access all files on both XP PCs from the ME PC and alter the files (i.e. full access). Although I could see all files on the ME PC from each XP PC, I could not alter any file nor could I add new folders to the ME PC from those XP PCs. I tried adding NetBEUI to the ME PC but this did not solve the problem. What I DID DO was change the name of the user I was logged in as at each XP PC to Admin and viola, I had full reign of the ME PC. Hope this helps anyone having the same problem. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, January 20, 2003 at 6:54 pm Posted by ampdude (1 messages posted) ARGH!! i had a long, detailed reply and it got hosed, so here's the condensed version: in my experience, it was NOT necessary to add NetBEUI or enable NetBIOS over TCP. here are the links that helped me: after setting up the ICS, you MUST use a microsoft networking password on the 98 machine as shown here: http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/browse.htm ... even though you can still get to the internet, you will need to use a password to browse the network. ensure the XP printer is shared: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/itpro/networking/printershare.asp ... run the add printer wizard on the 98 machine (use the defalt printer port setting at first), then from the 98 machine, CAPTURE the printer port: http://www.jmu.edu/computing/helpdesk/selfhelp/captureprinterport.shtml finally, if you are running firewall software, DISABLE the 'run at startup' option (start it manually after boot, every time). leaving it enabled at boot has been known to cause connection problems (broadband, lan gaming, etc...) i swear, it worked for me. GOOD LUCK! On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, January 23, 2003 at 5:00 am Posted by Jochen Schroer (1 messages posted) At the risk of looking dumb, I still can't get the network to connect. We have two Win XP machines and three Win 98 computers connected to a hub. The xp machines see each other and so do the 98 machines. However none of the XP machines sees or pings a 98 machine and vice versa. We checked workgroups, netbios and TCP settings. The settings appear correct to me. During our attempts to resolve the problem, one of the 98 machines was able to share files with an xp computer. However these settings were erased when I installed the network setup disk that was prepared by XP. Can we re-create the setting? Is there a check list, or some resource we can access? Any help would be much appreciated. On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 (yeah its a b*tch) Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 2:23 pm Posted by Ron (1 messages posted) I found a solution to my problem. I had used a shareware program ( TweakDUN I believe ) and it changed my registry settings. I referred to MS Q158474 and compared my registry settings to Microsoft's default. My culprit was HKEY_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\MSTCP with an entry of 2000 for DefaultRcvWindow. I changed it back to the recommended 8192 and a 32 Mb file now takes 25 seconds to copy over instead of the 25 minutes it used to take ! Network utilization went from 0.13 % up to around 16 %. Still not sure why it's not closer to 100% ??? I hope this helps you out ! Now, if anyone can tell me how to get my Win98 PC to access shares on my WinXP Pro ( on a Domain )laptop, I will be grateful. The Win98 workgroup is the same as the WinXP Domain, and eventhough I can 'see' the share, when I try to connect it gives me a Logon Server Not Found error. What am I missing ?? On Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 3:33 am, Nico wrote: >i have the same problem. i have 1 98SE and 1 XP pro running in a simple network with >a crosscable/switch (without internet yet, i want to get this running first) >if i connect one of the computer directly to the cablemodem on the LAN it works perfectly >but when i connect them to eachother they can see eachother and share files but takes >it hours to transfer a simple file from one station to the other. >also when i look at the networking tab in "windows task manager" the network utilization >doesn't get any higher than 2%. >i found some information about it on a site that has the same problem when using >their product and the're still "investgating" the problem.... (AAAAARHG! i need it >fixed now! :) ) > >Below is from a site about ACT!6.0 > >Situation: >You have a LAN with multiple Windows machines that are running various versions of >Windows prior to XP (an assortment of Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000 configurations is >possible). A single PC running Windows XP has been introduced into your network. >The user of this machine has ACT! installed, and accesses a database stored in a >network location (not on the local machine). The network works fine on all machines, >until the Windows XP machine enters ACT! At that point, all machines on the network >except the Windows XP machine slow to a crawl, whether in ACT! or any other program. >The Windows XP machine still continues to function without problem. > >Solution: >Network Collision Resolution >This behavior is still under investigation. We believe it may be the result of an >optimization in the way Windows XP's TCP/IP backoff protocol deals with network collisions. >When a single Windows XP machine resides on a LAN, it may be forgoing the standard >backoff algorithm, thereby flooding the network and preventing the other machines >from retransmitting. This problem could be encountered with any high-bandwidth operation. >ACT! can generate a considerable amount of network traffic if you have several users >accessing a shared database. so therefore exposes the issue. > >We suspect the slow-down will be most noticeable on a LAN which employs hubs rather >than switches (hubs broadcast network packets, effectively flooding all machines). > >This hypothesis resulted from a document found in the Microsoft Knowledge Base. >It specifically addresses 'High Rate of Collisions on 100-MB Networks: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q315237. >Refer to that document for registry modifications for customizing the adaptive backoff >algorithm. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 9:53 am Posted by Phillip (1 messages posted) I have had these same problems and tried different things. My first attempt to get my XP and 98 machines talking was using strictly TCP/IP. They would not talk even after checking all settings multiple times. NETBeui didn't work either yet. There must be a way to make them work though I haven't found this yet. I have been able to get things working using IPX/SPX (Netware compatible protocol), though this is a higher overhead protocol. On Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 7:08 am, bill truxon wrote: > >Some really incorrect answers....if you want all of these machines to talk, make >sure you have tcp/ip protocol on all....ealier verions of windows default network >protocol was netbeiu....2000, nt, xp, me default is tcp/ip....as long as you have >tcpip protocol loaded, and the same workgroup name for all, with file/print sharing >loadded, everything will work...thanks > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Friday, February 14, 2003 at 11:38 pm Posted by Clowns R. Evil (1 messages posted) Alrighty, I have found a way of viewing WinXP shared files via my winME pc. First off, let me explain the setup. I previously could use internet connection sharing with both computers, pinging each computer wasn't a problem and viewing winme shared files via winxp was easy. The only thing I couldn't do was see my winXP files via the winme machine. Here's how it works: 1. Find out the IP address of the winXP computer. If you don't know, try the following. If you know, skip ahead to step 3. 1. In the winME machine, open up a dos box. (This is simple as going to Start>Programs>Assessories>MS-DOS prompt or/ just click start>run and then type in "command.com", without the quotes) 2. Type "nbtstat -a |more". This will show all the computers connected. Find the IP address that corresponds to the winXP machine. 3. Now, on the WinME machine still, open up notepad(Start>Programs>Assessories>notepad) 4. Type out the IP you found on your WinXP machine. 5. Press TAB once 6. Type in the name of the WinXP computer (ie. GEM, TOM) 7. Now, point to File, Save As... , then name the file "Lmhosts" without an extension. 8. Under filetypes, make it list all files. 9. Save the file in the /windows directory. 10. Now all is done. No need to restart. Go to Start>Search and type in the ip of the winxp machine. Make sure you select search for 'computers' 11. It should now appear. If you get an error when double clicking it, log off the winme system and log on and type in your password. Repeat the search & it should now work. I'm pretty sure this works with Win98 systems since winME is also a part of the win9x kernel. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 1:25 pm Posted by Tony (1 messages posted) Based on my current job as a Technical Support Rep, I found that XP and Win98 systems experience connectivity problems (like dropping drive maps or locking up when running workstation setups for our program). According to Microsoft, a simple Network Wizard must be performed and diskette containing the Network Setup Wizard should be implemented on the Windows 98 system. This has helped. Search Microsoft's website for this information. They are definitely aware of this problem. On Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 3:25 am, tim wrote: >I have 2 winxp and 2 win98SE, I've figured out how to make them see each other and >share files and printers, and I've deleted the registry key on the winxp machines >to stop them for checking out for printers and whatsits. > >My problem is that the winxp computers can transfer files pretty quick but when it >comes to transferring from win98 to xp the network speed is really slow, before i >upgraded the 2 xps from win98, all computers used to have relatively fast speeds >(for coax) > >Is there a way to increase the speed between the two different win OS's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 (yeah its a b*tch) Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 6:41 pm Posted by Bruce (1 messages posted) Thanks for the helpful information - I had the same problem with slow transfers in one direction and gave up trying to find a solution about a year ago. Now It finally works! On Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 2:23 pm, Ron wrote: >I found a solution to my problem. I had used a shareware program ( TweakDUN I believe >) and it changed my registry settings. I referred to MS Q158474 and compared my registry >settings to Microsoft's default. My culprit was HKEY_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\MSTCP >with an entry of 2000 for DefaultRcvWindow. I changed it back to the recommended >8192 and a 32 Mb file now takes 25 seconds to copy over instead of the 25 minutes >it used to take ! Network utilization went from 0.13 % up to around 16 %. Still not >sure why it's not closer to 100% ??? I hope this helps you out ! > >Now, if anyone can tell me how to get my Win98 PC to access shares on my WinXP Pro >( on a Domain )laptop, I will be grateful. The Win98 workgroup is the same as the >WinXP Domain, and eventhough I can 'see' the share, when I try to connect it gives >me a Logon Server Not Found error. What am I missing ?? > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, March 3, 2003 at 8:10 am Posted by chris (10 messages posted) Had the same problem. If you're using WinXP Professional, here is the solution: Use the group policy editor to allow network access with a blank password, which XP disables by default. Here is the url: http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxpwin9x.htm On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network File sharing - Win 98 to Win XP Wednesday, March 5, 2003 at 6:10 pm Posted by Tim LaRose (1 messages posted) Phil -- I want to thank you for your post of 2/19/02. Here it is over a year later, and your info has helped me immensely. I too was setting up a network for file sharing, and have spent about 12 total hours in frustration. I am an advanced user, and know networking, BUT never thought to check the "Norton Personal Firewall" that was running on the W98 machine. I disabled it, and BANG the XP computer immediately listed all of the file shares, printers, etc. I thought I was going crazy; went and bought new NIC's, cables, countless reboots, and reinstalls of the networking software. Well...make a long story short, I was on Google and searched for help, and up came your thread from this board. Ten seconds later I was up and running, now I can get some sleep. Many thanks, and Cheers! TL On Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 5:46 pm, Phil Docker wrote: >I have had a real problem with XP and Win 98 talking. I have just solved it. My >problem was that I could not even 'ping' myself, using typing 'ping 127.0.0.1' at >the ms dos prompt in Xp. I found it to be NORTON PERSONAL FIREWALL 2002. I unistalled >it now my network works great, both was xp-90 and 98-xp. My advice is download >the free home firewall on the Sygate web site and throw norton away.... >All the best >Phil > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 (yeah its a b*tch) Friday, March 21, 2003 at 7:11 am Posted by Jim Faliveno (2 messages posted) Solution? I have 2 networks which are win98 peer 2 peer. When Xp machines are added to these networks, the XP machine can take 30 seconds or more to log into a folder on a Win 98 machine. We tried all the tricks posted here and elsewhere and spent over 100 hours just this week trying to find the solution. Yesterday, John McCarthy, a fellow in our organization researching this same problem found that by unchecking QoS Packet Scheduler in Network Connections fixed the problem!! Now the Win XP machines are just as fast as the Win 98 machines! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Monday, April 21, 2003 at 11:05 am Posted by Chris (1 messages posted) Microsoft knowledge base 322097 refers to slow connections from an xp machine accessing a 98 machine. It's due to "Windows XP saves the password in the Credential Manager. When you browse the same Windows 98 or Windows Me client, Credential Manager tries to contact a domain controller to validate the password. Because the computers are in a workgroup environment, there is no domain controller, and you must wait until the requests timeout." They also said that the xp service pack 1 fixes it. They didn't address a 98 machine accessing a xp machine. On Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 3:25 am, tim wrote: >I have 2 winxp and 2 win98SE, I've figured out how to make them see each other and >share files and printers, and I've deleted the registry key on the winxp machines >to stop them for checking out for printers and whatsits. > >My problem is that the winxp computers can transfer files pretty quick but when it >comes to transferring from win98 to xp the network speed is really slow, before i >upgraded the 2 xps from win98, all computers used to have relatively fast speeds >(for coax) > >Is there a way to increase the speed between the two different win OS's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, April 21, 2003 at 8:37 pm Posted by Ernest (3 messages posted) Hi Jochen Actually i got it working last night and thought it might useful to you guys in this forum. However, this set up is only tested for between 2 PCs (between Win98 1st edition PC and WinXP SP1 notebook, in my case) and have not tried with more than two PCs. Let me first give you the current setup in each of my PC/Notebook before getting into the configuration steps. 1) A standalone PC at home running Win98 1st edition and is configured as a Workgroup “Home”. A 3Com Ether 3 card. 2) An office notebook with WinXP Pro SP1 configured to login to a Domain name in the office via a DNS server and also has a MS Proxy configured. A 100/10mbps NIC. For the purpose of file & CD-Rom sharing, a crossed RJ-45 cable is used to link up these 2 nodes. Here are the steps used: 1) Turn off DNS name lookup on both PC/Notebook 2) Turn off Proxy lookup on both PC/Notebook 3) On the WinXP, go to Local Security Policy and disable the “Account: Limit local Account use of blank password to console only”. This option is “Enable” by default. 4) Turn off any kind of firewall currently installed on WinXP or Win98. I had Sygate installed and firewall protection switched on for the “Local Area Connection” in WinXP earlier, it causes my Win98 PC not able to access the shared resources on the WinXP although the WinXP node is displayed in the Win98 network neighborhood. Once the firewall protection is removed, the problem is gone for good. 5) Now, specify an IP address for each of the PC. In my case, 172.18.1.10 for Win98 and 172.18.1.20 for WinXP. 6) Subnet mask for both PCs, 255.255.255.0 7) Specify the remote PC IP address as the Default Gateway in the local PC. I.E. Default Gateway for Win98 PC is 172.18.1.20 and 172.18.1.10 for WinXP notebook. 8) Ensure that “File & Printer sharing for MS network” is added and selected on both PCs. 9) In Win98, in addition to TCP/IP protocol make sure that Netbius is added. 10) Now, connect up the 2 PC/notebook with the crossed RJ-45. 11) Go to the File Explorer window on each of the PC and select whatever you want it to be shared. 12) Reboot both PC and notebook, go to “MY Network Places” in WinXP and “Network Neighborhood” in Win98, clik on Entire Network to view the remote node. It may be slow to display the icon, if you don’t see it still, just keep pressing F5 to refresh the screen. As mentioned before, this is set up works fine in my scenario and it might just need some modifications to suit some other setup. Hope this information is helpful. Thanks On Thursday, January 23, 2003 at 5:00 am, Jochen Schroer wrote: >At the risk of looking dumb, I still can't get the network to connect. We have two >Win XP machines and three Win 98 computers connected to a hub. The xp machines see >each other and so do the 98 machines. However none of the XP machines sees or pings >a 98 machine and vice versa. We checked workgroups, netbios and TCP settings. The >settings appear correct to me. During our attempts to resolve the problem, one of >the 98 machines was able to share files with an xp computer. However these settings >were erased when I installed the network setup disk that was prepared by XP. Can >we re-create the setting? Is there a check list, or some resource we can access? > Any help would be much appreciated. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Thursday, May 8, 2003 at 10:36 am Posted by Josh Rodman (4 messages posted) There are apparently two fixes (as well as standard setup issues, same workgroup, guest account on, with password logons, etc) needed to get XP to network correctly (fast) on a peer-to-peer SMB network. I tried to get TCP to work, but with all the extra parameters, I gave up, and instead resorted to IPX/SPX with NWLINK NetBIOS. This may not be as fast [when working] as TCP/IP, but it sure seems to WORK, and it also eliminates the security headaches you must go through to secure SMB on TCP. (Someone is invited to see if they can extend these directions to also apply to TCP/IP.) These are the directions I would suggest: 1. Run all IPX (I have standardized on frame type Ethernet II, as I have found more than one suggestion that to make IPX work, a SINGLE frame type must be selected among all clients, and that the "auto" setting doesn't work so great) Make sure that Netbios is enabled over IPX, and that you "Disable NetBios over TCP/IP" in the Advanced settings for TCP/IP. 2. Go into "Network Connections" on the XP machine, and go to the menu item "Advanced" -> "Advanced Settings". Select your Ethernet card in the "Connections" box and make sure it is listed first (MAKE it first, if it isn't) and that under bindings, ONLY "NWLINK IPX..." is checked for File and Printer Sharing AND Client for Microsoft Networks, and that they are listed FIRST. For other potential Connections, make sure that NONE of them are bound to File and Printer Sharing or Client for Microsoft Networks. On the TAB "Provider Order" make sure that "Microsoft Windows Network" is first. 3. Make sure that all 98 machines successfully authenticate as Guest, not as a user account. You can find this out by going to Event Viewer (one way to get to it is by right-clicking on My Computer, and going to "Manage", then looking through the list) and to the Security area, and look at some of the audits. 4. [TO BE ABLE TO COPY FAST FROM WIN98 CLIENTS] Make sure that on both client and server machines, the keys in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RemoteComputer\NameSpace {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} and {2227A280-3AEA-1069-A2DE-08002B30309D} are both deleted. The client side is optional in these instructions, because I've not been able to proove it helps. 5. [TO BE ABLE TO COPY TO WIN98 FROM XP] See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 -- these directions worked. I'll note that neither of these values, RequireSecuritySignature or EnableSecuritySignature, existed on my system, and they are DWORD values (which the article doesn't state, since it ASSUMES they exist). Synopsis: Start Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe). Locate and then click the following key in the registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters Double-click the RequireSecuritySignature value, type 0 in the Value data box, and then click OK. Double-click the EnableSecuritySignature value, type 0 in the Value data box, and then click OK. Quit Registry Editor. I noticed that I didn't need to restart XP to see the performance difference. No more dying/quitting after 35 seconds, but on a 100Full Switched Ethernet connection, 609MB could be copied in 6-9 minutes in either direction. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Friday, May 9, 2003 at 2:24 pm Posted by Josh Rodman (4 messages posted) The instructions I posted above worked PRIOR to installing SP1. After I installed SP1 and went through the whole upgrading critical updates deal, I found I had one of the same copy issues--I couldn't copy reliably to a Win98 machine large file data FROM the XP machine. I did some work, modified some more registry entries, researched the Microsoft Knowledgebase, and found more than one article [ like http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3ben-us%3b810173 ] that seem to indicate there is a problem (probably a "feature") that slows down/breaks file connections over SPX. Also, it seems that performance is reduced after SP1 on some networking conditions, and more than one article stated something to the effect that a hotfix was available if you generated a support call ($ for Microsoft). My solution: Go back to TCP/IP, and try it again. Suprisingly, I got it to work, with the following additional configuration: (Who knows if this would have worked the first time...) In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters Add or modify a DWORD "EnableOpLockForceClose" with value 0. This I was able to verify was directly responsible for it work or not -- with this value set at 1, it failed, but with it at 0, it worked. So, those who begin by looking for TCP/IP instructions like the IPX/SPX instructions above should first add the value "EnableOpLockForceClose" like I've said, and then follow the IPX/SPX instructions, steps 2-5, substituting TCP/IP for every instance of IPX/SPX. Summary of whole XP/98 issue: a. XP can often read fast (may require some help), but not write fast, to 98 machines b. Large files are harder to transfer than a bunch of smaller ones c. XP may require modification to (it seems, at most) three areas of the registry, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanWorkstation\Parameters HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RemoteComputer\NameSpace d. Good speed depends on exclusively binding a protocol to "Client for Microsoft Networks" and "File and Printer Sharing" e. Provider order should list "Microsoft Windows Network" FIRST, for best performance Any feedback is appreciated... [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 4:54 pm Posted by Josh Rodman (4 messages posted) Just adding to my experiences listed above: IMPORTANT NOTE For those wishing to peer-to-peer network Windows XP and Windows 98: On the XP machine, the "Authentication" tab of the network connection properties contains a checkbox "Enable IEEE 802.1 authentication for this network" that MUST be UNCHECKED. XP seems to have applications that like to turn it on again, so make sure this doesn't happen, and suspect that it has when a working scheme suddenly does not. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network File sharing - Win 98 to Win XP Thursday, May 22, 2003 at 12:01 pm Posted by Jamie Boyt (1 messages posted) I had exactly the same problem with a Win98 machine trying to connect to and share files and printer with a WinXP machine (I didn't have a problem with the shared internet connection). My problem turned out to be caused by Norton Personal Firewall 2002 (running as part of Norton Internet Security 2002) as well! However, there is no need to uninstall the Firewall - if you go into "Internet Zone Control" you can add the IP address of the host machine in to the "Trusted" box and leave the Firewall active. I'm not sure how effective this would be, as if all communication to the client is via the host then I suppose the client would trust all incoming communication? You would still get the benefits of the other features of the Firewall though (such as a warning when any program tries to go online). On Wednesday, March 5, 2003 at 6:10 pm, Tim LaRose wrote: >Phil -- I want to thank you for your post of 2/19/02. Here it is over a year later, >and your info has helped me immensely. I too was setting up a network for file sharing, >and have spent about 12 total hours in frustration. I am an advanced user, and know >networking, BUT never thought to check the "Norton Personal Firewall" that was running >on the W98 machine. I disabled it, and BANG the XP computer immediately listed all >of the file shares, printers, etc. I thought I was going crazy; went and bought new >NIC's, cables, countless reboots, and reinstalls of the networking software. Well...make >a long story short, I was on Google and searched for help, and up came your thread >from this board. Ten seconds later I was up and running, now I can get some sleep. >Many thanks, and Cheers! TL > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Monday, June 16, 2003 at 3:29 am Posted by jeroen (1 messages posted) Recently I had the same problems with my win XP and win 98 network. When I wanted to access my win 98 station from my XP station, it was very slow. When I installed service pack 1 everything is working fine now. On Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 4:54 pm, Josh Rodman wrote: >Just adding to my experiences listed above: > >IMPORTANT NOTE For those wishing to peer-to-peer network Windows XP and Windows 98: >On the XP machine, the "Authentication" tab of the network connection properties >contains a checkbox "Enable IEEE 802.1 authentication for this network" that MUST >be UNCHECKED. XP seems to have applications that like to turn it on again, so make >sure this doesn't happen, and suspect that it has when a working scheme suddenly >does not. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Monday, June 16, 2003 at 7:54 am Posted by Josh Rodman (4 messages posted) It ended up being related to my HP Notebook BIOS and Integrated NIC, but I did not that Service Pack 1 was not all that was needed to bring performance up to par with line speeds. See my other comments for details. On Monday, June 16, 2003 at 3:29 am, jeroen wrote: >Recently I had the same problems with my win XP and win 98 network. When I wanted >to access my win 98 station from my XP station, it was very slow. >When I installed service pack 1 everything is working fine now. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 (yeah its a b*tch) Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 11:22 am Posted by Rob (1 messages posted) YIHAAH! Works! at last my old win98 server is accessible again (normally). Thanks for the solution. On Friday, March 21, 2003 at 7:11 am, Jim Faliveno wrote: >Solution? I have 2 networks which are win98 peer 2 peer. When Xp machines are added >to these networks, the XP machine can take 30 seconds or more to log into a folder >on a Win 98 machine. We tried all the tricks posted here and elsewhere and spent >over 100 hours just this week trying to find the solution. > >Yesterday, John McCarthy, a fellow in our organization researching this same problem >found that by unchecking QoS Packet Scheduler in Network Connections fixed the problem!! > >Now the Win XP machines are just as fast as the Win 98 machines! > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 1:55 pm Posted by John (1 messages posted) On Monday, March 3, 2003 at 8:10 am, ems wrote: >Had the same problem. If you're using WinXP Professional, here is the solution:... Howdy Gang, Thanks to all who've contributed to the Win98<->WinXP networking thread. I appreciate all the info. Now, here's what I found with my particular setup: Installed WinXP Pro 5 days ago onto a Promise Technology driven pair of 40GB WD hard drives. My PC is a Micron PIII, 667Mhz. I have (2) other PCs on my network working through (1) Linksys and (1) Addtron switches. Both of the other PCs are Win98SE. I booted to XP and was unable to perform Windows Updates using IE6 via my DSL connection. In fact, I couldn't get ANY downloading to work. I found there was a Windows IRQ sharing conflict between my OEM US Robotics 56k modem (vintage 1999) and the Promise TX2000 RAID card. Loading new drivers for both devices didn't clear the problem. Moving the modem to a different slot helped. So, I left the modem in. My next discovery was sloooooooow networking between PCs (that's how I ended up here via Google). I did the recommended. "check this, check that", and even installed TweakDUN. Same slooooooooooow networking. On a hunch, I pulled the modem. My network is back to normal and hauls a$$. I'm not sure it will help anyone else, but I wanted to offer my experience back to the forum. Regards, John [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, July 14, 2003 at 12:37 pm Posted by Brian (2 messages posted) Hi, I had similar problems with Win XP and 98 like everyone else here and tried everything, my 2 main problems were these: 1) Windows XP would take forever to copy files from a Windows 98 computer, and 2) Win98 computers couldn't access my Win XP computers, I went nuts trying everything out. My win98 computers would connect to SOME of my XP computers and others it wouldn't, so I checked the different settings and here were the solutions that worked for me. 1) To make my Windows XP copy faster from Windows 98 I installed the NetBEUI protocol and that seemed to help the speed issue with XP copying from windows 98. 2) The problem with windows 98 not being able to access Windows Xp was the fact that I had the IPX/SPX protocol installed on my XP machine, I removed the IPX/SPX protocol on my XP machine and BOOM windows 98 connected right away. Worked for me. Hope this helps some of you guys that are having the same problems I was. Have fun ;) On Thursday, January 23, 2003 at 5:00 am, Jochen Schroer wrote: >At the risk of looking dumb, I still can't get the network to connect. We have two >Win XP machines and three Win 98 computers connected to a hub. The xp machines see >each other and so do the 98 machines. However none of the XP machines sees or pings >a 98 machine and vice versa. We checked workgroups, netbios and TCP settings. The >settings appear correct to me. During our attempts to resolve the problem, one of >the 98 machines was able to share files with an xp computer. However these settings >were erased when I installed the network setup disk that was prepared by XP. Can >we re-create the setting? Is there a check list, or some resource we can access? > Any help would be much appreciated. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 10:34 am Posted by shyam (1 messages posted) First off, I must say that this thread has been immensely helpful: thanks to all who have contributed. I think my problem is an XP-98 issue, but I’m not sure. I’ve got two computers running XP, and two older ones running 98SE. They’re connected by a linksys wireless router. Oddly, the oldest of the computers running 98SE shows up on the network. My second computer running 98SE doesn’t show up on any other computer as being in the network, yet, I’m able to access all the other computers from it: all four computers show up on its network neighborhood, where as three computers only show up on the others’ network neighborhoods. There are no extra, XP particular protocols running on any of the computers, and netbios is enabled over TCP/IP. They’re all under the same workgroup name. I don’t have any sort of personal firewall installed on any of the computers. Oddly, when I connect an XP into the problem 98 computer by an Ethernet cable, I can’t see the problem 98 computer on the network, but I can directly access shared resources. However, over the wireless network, I can’t do this. Any one have any clues? Thanks On Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 1:55 pm, John wrote: >On Monday, March 3, 2003 at 8:10 am, ems wrote: >Had the same problem. If you're using WinXP Professional, here is the solution:... > >Howdy Gang, > >Thanks to all who've contributed to the Win98<->WinXP networking thread. I appreciate >all the info. Now, here's what I found with my particular setup: > >Installed WinXP Pro 5 days ago onto a Promise Technology driven pair of 40GB WD hard >drives. My PC is a Micron PIII, 667Mhz. I have (2) other PCs on my network working >through (1) Linksys and (1) Addtron switches. Both of the other PCs are Win98SE. > > >I booted to XP and was unable to perform Windows Updates using IE6 via my DSL connection. >In fact, I couldn't get ANY downloading to work. I found there was a Windows IRQ >sharing conflict between my OEM US Robotics 56k modem (vintage 1999) and the Promise >TX2000 RAID card. Loading new drivers for both devices didn't clear the problem. >Moving the modem to a different slot helped. So, I left the modem in. > >My next discovery was sloooooooow networking between PCs (that's how I ended up here >via Google). I did the recommended. "check this, check that", and even installed >TweakDUN. Same slooooooooooow networking. On a hunch, I pulled the modem. My network >is back to normal and hauls a$$. > >I'm not sure it will help anyone else, but I wanted to offer my experience back to >the forum. > >Regards, > >John [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 7:49 pm Posted by Jaz (2 messages posted) Read all over the internet. Found a solution so posting here for the benefit of many who teared their hairs out using Win XP for networking.(XP network transfer speed so slow). My problem is a bad TCP/IP stack for XP. Read here on how to do a reset of the TCP/IP stack for Win XP.(Microsoft Knowledge base 299357). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q299357 or a shorter url: http://tinyurl.com/jlz7 The command line is: netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt (where c:\resetlog.txt is the log file) My reset log showed many errors. My result: Blazing fast speed transfers just like in Win98 networking! On Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 3:25 am, tim wrote: >I have 2 winxp and 2 win98SE, I've figured out how to make them see each other and >share files and printers, and I've deleted the registry key on the winxp machines >to stop them for checking out for printers and whatsits. > >My problem is that the winxp computers can transfer files pretty quick but when it >comes to transferring from win98 to xp the network speed is really slow, before i >upgraded the 2 xps from win98, all computers used to have relatively fast speeds >(for coax) > >Is there a way to increase the speed between the two different win OS's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 7:51 pm Posted by Jaz (2 messages posted) Sorry the link is here for those who don't cut and paste: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q299357 On Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 7:49 pm, Jaz wrote: >Read all over the internet. Found a >solution so posting here for the benefit of many who teared their hairs out using >Win XP for networking.(XP network transfer >speed so slow). > >My problem is a bad TCP/IP stack for XP. > >Read here on how to do a reset of the TCP/IP stack for Win XP.(Microsoft Knowledge >base 299357). > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q299357 > > > >or a shorter url: > >http://tinyurl.com/jlz7 > > >The command line is: > >netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt > >(where c:\resetlog.txt is the log file) > >My reset log showed many errors. > >My result: Blazing fast speed transfers just like in Win98 networking! > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] YOU CAN setup filesharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 7:37 pm Posted by Alan (1 messages posted) If you have a switch hooked up and can access the 'net on both machines but can't network the machines themselves, here's a solution that will take you off the 'net BUT allow you to transfer files between the 98 and XP systems. First, make sure you have Client for Microsoft Networks and File Sharing installed. Next, make sure you set up specific folders on both machines for file sharing. Take off any NetBios / NetBeui protocols -- we're going to be using TCP/IP today. Another thing to try is to set up the same username and password for both machines. Now, for the solution: In the TCP/IP properties on both machines, you're going to ASSIGN an IP ADDRESS MANUALLY. On the first machine, do something like (you can use this exactly): 10.0.0.2 And on the second machine, do: 10.0.0.3 On both machines set the gateway to 10.0.0.1 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 Once you've done this, you should be able to exchange files just fine. If not, try this: pick a computer (machine #1, for example) and do Start ==> Run ===> \\10.0.0.2 This should bring up the shared folders on machine #2. Finally, dab the tears of joy from your face and then scream at Microsoft for making all of this so darn complicated. On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, September 7, 2003 at 5:06 am Posted by George Martin (2 messages posted) THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRILLIANT - I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE SOLUTION TO THIS FOR AGES. MANY MANY THX. :0)))))) George On Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 7:47 am, curtis wrote: >i have a network of an xp deskto and a win 98 desktop and a router. the router takes >care of the internet connection using DHCP and also has a built in switch which is >my network medium as well. the computers work great together. just leave domain alone >and name the workgroups the same and have netbios enabled on both machine as the >network protocal and tcp/ip as your internet protocal. >have fun and enjoy the joys of networking > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 (yeah its a b*tch) Sunday, September 7, 2003 at 6:59 am Posted by George Martin (2 messages posted) Can I refer you all to Curtis's reply below (Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 7:47 am) which is the only thing that has worked for me on a mixed 98 / XP home network. Go to your win98 machine(s) and in network properties, Client for MS network properties, blank out the DOMAIN name. Perhaps MS should have this on their Knowledge Base? Thanks Curtis! George On Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 3:33 am, Nico wrote: >i have the same problem. i have 1 98SE and 1 XP pro running in a simple network with >a crosscable/switch (without internet yet, i want to get this running first) >if i connect one of the computer directly to the cablemodem on the LAN it works perfectly >but when i connect them to eachother they can see eachother and share files but takes >it hours to transfer a simple file from one station to the other. >also when i look at the networking tab in "windows task manager" the network utilization >doesn't get any higher than 2%. >i found some information about it on a site that has the same problem when using >their product and the're still "investgating" the problem.... (AAAAARHG! i need it >fixed now! :) ) > >Below is from a site about ACT!6.0 > >Situation: >You have a LAN with multiple Windows machines that are running various versions of >Windows prior to XP (an assortment of Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000 configurations is >possible). A single PC running Windows XP has been introduced into your network. >The user of this machine has ACT! installed, and accesses a database stored in a >network location (not on the local machine). The network works fine on all machines, >until the Windows XP machine enters ACT! At that point, all machines on the network >except the Windows XP machine slow to a crawl, whether in ACT! or any other program. >The Windows XP machine still continues to function without problem. > >Solution: >Network Collision Resolution >This behavior is still under investigation. We believe it may be the result of an >optimization in the way Windows XP's TCP/IP backoff protocol deals with network collisions. >When a single Windows XP machine resides on a LAN, it may be forgoing the standard >backoff algorithm, thereby flooding the network and preventing the other machines >from retransmitting. This problem could be encountered with any high-bandwidth operation. >ACT! can generate a considerable amount of network traffic if you have several users >accessing a shared database. so therefore exposes the issue. > >We suspect the slow-down will be most noticeable on a LAN which employs hubs rather >than switches (hubs broadcast network packets, effectively flooding all machines). > >This hypothesis resulted from a document found in the Microsoft Knowledge Base. >It specifically addresses 'High Rate of Collisions on 100-MB Networks: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q315237. >Refer to that document for registry modifications for customizing the adaptive backoff >algorithm. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network File sharing - Win 98 to Win XP Monday, November 17, 2003 at 7:59 pm Posted by A Grateful User (1 messages posted) I went through pretty much the same process short of buying any new hardware. I'm truly grateful of Web sites and postings like these. My problem was not exactly like this but similar. I have a laptop w/ XP Home SP1. For the life of me it couldn't see the 98 SE desktop I also have. All it took was to "disable" the "Norton Internet Protection / Firewall". Bamo! Thanks & Good luck! On Wednesday, March 5, 2003 at 6:10 pm, Tim LaRose wrote: >Phil -- I want to thank you for your post of 2/19/02. Here it is over a year later, >and your info has helped me immensely. I too was setting up a network for file sharing, >and have spent about 12 total hours in frustration. I am an advanced user, and know >networking, BUT never thought to check the "Norton Personal Firewall" that was running >on the W98 machine. I disabled it, and BANG the XP computer immediately listed all >of the file shares, printers, etc. I thought I was going crazy; went and bought new >NIC's, cables, countless reboots, and reinstalls of the networking software. Well...make >a long story short, I was on Google and searched for help, and up came your thread >from this board. Ten seconds later I was up and running, now I can get some sleep. >Many thanks, and Cheers! TL [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network File sharing - Win 98 to Win XP Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 4:15 pm Posted by compudude86 (1 messages posted) thank you very much. i use zone alarm firewall and couldnt understand why my systems couldnt connect. it was the darn firewall. if you have zone alarm, click the firewall tab, turn the "trusted zone" tab to "low", and set your network adapter as "trusted" under the firewall tab's "zones" tab. thank you [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win XP pro & ME Monday, November 24, 2003 at 4:40 pm Posted by d (1 messages posted) I am trying to share files from my laptop (xp pro) to me Desktop (ME). XP pro is pretty straight forward about file sharing, but ME is not (at least to me). Unlike the above threads, I need a little help at the very beginning of this process. Only then might I benefit from the above solutions. Can anyone get me started? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, November 25, 2003 at 6:25 pm Posted by Monty (36 messages posted) Enable Netbios on your XP pc! Network&settings->properties of your NIC->properties of TCP/IP->Advanced->WINS->select "Enable NetBIOS with TCP/IP" Ok, Ok, Close should do it.. Guido On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Monday, December 8, 2003 at 1:28 am Posted by Jack (1 messages posted) I am sharing your pain, identical problem with no obvious solution, dying for the answer. my network is three pc's 2 are winxp which get along fine but the 98 is a one way street - very slow to read from the XP machines! I used to be network adminitrator for a small domain with server and had no probs, it appears that this is a peer to peer network thing. am anxious for any ideas. On Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 7:50 pm, Eric wrote: >I am having this same problem. I have an XP machine network to another computer >with Windows 98. I can find the comoptuer on the network but it takes forever to >transfer files. I try to transfer a 5 mb file and it take 3 or 4 minutes. Has anyone >figured out the problem to this? Please help > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 8:28 am Posted by Eric N. (1 messages posted) Hi, all I am trying to get a peer to peer network between a single win 98 machine and a single xp machine through a linksys wireless router. Now, thanks to this thread, I am almost there. Here is where I stand: File transfers from the win 98 machine to the XP box work reliably and quickly, starting the transfer from either machine. Now, thanks to the net view // ip trick, I can browse the shared folder on the XP machine quickly, but I can only transfer a VERY small file from XP to win 98, and even then it's slow and clunky. If I try a larger file, >2K, it hangs for a while, looks like it starts, then eventually says the network device or resource is no longer available. If I look at the network status on the 98 machine, it shows the file in transfer is open, and the status never changes. Anybody have any idea what is going on and how to fix it? Thanks. On Monday, December 2, 2002 at 4:43 pm, Joel wrote: >I had a bunch of issues with my Win98 box and saw above the "net view \\ip" command. > That works, but like the guy said it's only temporary. Does somebody know why this >works? And how to solve this type of problem permantly? > >thanx to all =) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 1:59 pm Posted by Zoran (1 messages posted) When you try to view the shared folders on a Win98/ME computer from a Win2000/XP computer, there can be a delay for up to 30 seconds while Win2000/XP tries to determine if "scheduled tasks" are enabled on the other computer. Microsoft admits this is a problem in Q245800. However, you can fix this by deleting the following Registry entry on the Win2K /XP machine: Hive: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE Key: Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer \RemoteComputer\NameSpace SubKey: {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} Right-click the subkey (the one in curly brackets) and click delete. You may wish to save this key before deleting it, and you should definitely back up the Registry before making edits. On Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 7:50 pm, Eric wrote: >I am having this same problem. I have an XP machine network to another computer >with Windows 98. I can find the comoptuer on the network but it takes forever to >transfer files. I try to transfer a 5 mb file and it take 3 or 4 minutes. Has anyone >figured out the problem to this? Please help > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, February 11, 2004 at 11:23 am Posted by Lesley sedgeman (1 messages posted) Thank you for the advice about Norton. It worked. Lesley On Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 5:46 pm, Phil Docker wrote: >I have had a real problem with XP and Win 98 talking. I have just solved it. My >problem was that I could not even 'ping' myself, using typing 'ping 127.0.0.1' at >the ms dos prompt in Xp. I found it to be NORTON PERSONAL FIREWALL 2002. I unistalled >it now my network works great, both was xp-90 and 98-xp. My advice is download >the free home firewall on the Sygate web site and throw norton away.... >All the best >Phil > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP - LONG FILE NAME SHARE Monday, February 16, 2004 at 5:40 pm Posted by M Stecher (1 messages posted) I haven't read every post here, however apart from the obvious firewall, security and permission issues. Windows 98 will not see a Long File Name Share, so make sure you use no more than 8 legal characters and make sure there are no spaces on your Windows XP Share name.. On Thursday, December 27, 2001 at 5:44 am, Wim Remes wrote: >I have a problem that goes in the same direction. >My LAN consists of a 98 Desktop & an XP Desktop. >The 98 is running a proxy server for obvious reasons (ICS suxx big time). >In the beginning only internet was working for both PC's but they couldn't see eachother >on the LAN. Then I found that I need to specifically enable NetBIOS on the XP machine >and boom it just found all the shares,printers,... just like that ... (uPnP...oops)... >I can access the shares on the 98 machine from XP without a prob, but not the other >way around (no it is not an NTFS issue). Furthermore, I am unable to play games on >the internet from the XP machine AND it is impossible to upload files (e.g. through >ICQ) ... >Ping -> OK >HTTP -> OK >HTTPS -> OK >SMTP -> OK >POP -> OK > >Any thoughts, let me know ... > >cheers; > >Wim > >mail me ! > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Sunday, February 22, 2004 at 2:18 pm Posted by Sheri (1 messages posted) I have this exact same problem with Windows XP on a Windows NT Server network. I have 3-Win98 computers and 4-Win2000. Never had the problem until the XP machine. On Monday, September 30, 2002 at 9:14 am, Dan Hoelker wrote: >The basic issue here is that Windows XP (or 2000) >assumes it is talking to a server. If you had Windows >NT or 2000 server on the box that has 98 on it things >would be fine. There is something differerent in the >TCP stacks (I think) that causes this problem. I have >seen a work-around for this in the past (having the same problem at home myself after >going to XP yesterday), and I was searching for it again when I ran across your post. > As I recall it is a registry change to change a TCP parameter (don't recall on which >end). >If I find it again I will send another reply > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Sunday, February 22, 2004 at 5:52 pm Posted by Dan Hoelker (2 messages posted) On another system I run I have Windows XP talking to NT just fine for the most part. There is 1 problem I have but it only happens on 2 machines purchased at the same time from the same vendor (another 3 machines are fine), which is that right after boot the XP machines say they cannot attached to the shared drive, but if you access it again it is fine. It turns out my original XP to 98 problem was caused by a bad cable - it just happened to go bad when I pulled the box out to work on it (installing XP)..... On Sunday, February 22, 2004 at 2:18 pm, Sheri wrote: >I have this exact same problem with Windows XP on a Windows NT Server network. I >have 3-Win98 computers and 4-Win2000. Never had the problem until the XP machine. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Sunday, March 7, 2004 at 9:04 am Posted by T Garrett (1 messages posted) Having tried most of the helpful suggestions in this thread, my WinXP Pro and Win98 machines still didn't seem completely happy doing file transfers. Whenever I was using Windows Explorer (on the XP side) to initiate a file transfer (Copy, Paste, whatever), there would be almost a 1 minute lag before the operation even started! One of the Microsoft queries mentioned late in this forum recommended setting up a Mapped Network Drive (e.g. S:\ on the XP machine points indirectly to \\server\files folder on the 98 machine), instead of trying to navigate directly through Network Places. Once I did this, I found file operations start immediately (and the throughput seems faster), with no delay whatsoever. Before using this method, none of the network changes had really helped (not NetBIOS, NetBEUI, TCP/IP settings, registry hacks, NIC settings, etc.). So, now I let drive letter S (on my XP machine) map to a desired folder on the Win98 side, with a shortcut on my Desktop. I open that shortcut, and bingo, things go smoothly. Try it and see if that helps. Thanks to all who came before for their really well-thought-out hints! Only took me, um, 4 days to get anywhere with this obnoxious problem. Note: I never updated to Windows' Service Pack 1 for XP Pro, which might also have helped. - T Garrett [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 10:50 am Posted by Bob T. (1 messages posted) There was a message on TweakDUN causing the problem. I had used that program too. My laptop WinXP Home Version would download large files very fast, and my Win98 Desktop was very slow. So I re-downloaded TweakDUN 3.0. When I ran the program, I had to do it two or three times. I did set RWIN in registry to 8192 as another person had written. That alone did not do anything for me. Then I set the MaxMTU to auto. And that did the trick after desktop was rebooted. I noticed upon looking at TweakDUN again (not running the program again) that it set RWIN to Windows Default, but I notice that it still is at 8192. So the TweakDUN program caused my problem, but it was able to fix it too. Use caution with it as far as file transfers go. Bob T. On Monday, December 8, 2003 at 1:28 am, Jack wrote: >I am sharing your pain, identical problem with no obvious solution, dying for the >answer. my network is three pc's 2 are winxp which get along fine but the 98 is a >one way street - very slow to read from the XP machines! I used to be network adminitrator >for a small domain with server and had no probs, it appears that this is a peer to >peer network thing. am anxious for any ideas. > > >On Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 7:50 pm, Eric wrote: >>I am having this same problem. I have an XP machine network to another computer >>with Windows 98. I can find the comoptuer on the network but it takes forever to >>transfer files. I try to transfer a 5 mb file and it take 3 or 4 minutes. Has >anyone >>figured out the problem to this? Please help >> >> [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 12:52 am Posted by DVIRUS (1 messages posted) I need to know the resolution for IP address for PC's with APIP (Automatic IP addressed) for three conditions. 1> IPCONFIG cannot be released and renewed, or returns with error. 2>IPCONFIG Winsock (Registry) has already been deleted, according to some morons creating a key in registry called IPAutoConfigurationEnabled can resolve the issue: Of Page cannot be displayed. Using any broad band modem which does not have a reset button. Degaussing or releasing the flee power of Broad Band Modem (NOT DSL) does not help. Ip address cannot be manually set. Moreover several attempts of Uninstall and reinstalls of the (Ethernet Card, Ethernet Driver, AND OS) have been attempted. MAC addresses have been refreshed from the router or a Broadband modem have been refreshed or removed. The #@$^ IP address does not change from 169.254.*.*. To DHCP address whereas the DHCP is set to enabled mode. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, April 13, 2004 at 7:57 pm Posted by redsun (12 messages posted) I found a trick that works...i reformatted my hard drive and reinstalled everything on my old computer. Since this problem involves two computers than you can all transfer your important files to one of them (since the transfer windows 98 to xp is fast)and reformat your hard drive. Now it works for me..still wonder what was the program that started the problem... On Sunday, March 7, 2004 at 9:04 am, T Garrett wrote: > > > >Having tried most of the helpful suggestions in this thread, my WinXP Pro and Win98 >machines still didn't seem completely happy doing file transfers. Whenever I was >using Windows Explorer (on the XP side) to initiate a file transfer (Copy, Paste, >whatever), there would be almost a 1 minute lag before the operation even started! > >One of the Microsoft queries mentioned late in this forum recommended setting up >a Mapped Network Drive (e.g. S:\ on the XP machine points indirectly to \\server\files > folder on the 98 machine), instead of trying to navigate directly through Network >Places. > >Once I did this, I found file operations start immediately (and the throughput seems >faster), with no delay whatsoever. Before using this method, none of the network >changes had really helped (not NetBIOS, NetBEUI, TCP/IP settings, registry hacks, >NIC settings, etc.). > >So, now I let drive letter S (on my XP machine) map to a desired folder on the Win98 >side, with a shortcut on my Desktop. I open that shortcut, and bingo, things go >smoothly. Try it and see if that helps. > >Thanks to all who came before for their really well-thought-out hints! Only took >me, um, 4 days to get anywhere with this obnoxious problem. > >Note: I never updated to Windows' Service Pack 1 for XP Pro, which might also have >helped. > > - T Garrett [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:13 am Posted by zimba (8 messages posted) I had teh exact same problem except I couldn't even ping my win98 desktop from my winxp laptop. I could see the desktop icon in My Network Places in winxp, but could not either open it nor ping desktop. I could ping laptop from desktop, but not see laptop icon in Network folder in desktop (win98). Since i was able to ping the xp (laptop), here's how i accessed files on xp: Start -> Run: \\ipaddress of xp This opened up a window showing all the shared folders on the laptop(xp). File transfers were then possible, but only from the desktop. Then 3 days later, my desktop caught some virus and got very sick. It's registry was wiped out along with the VFAT. So I had to re-format the C: drive and re-install the OS. NB: Just deleting the windows folder and re-installing the OS gave the same network problems. After the formatted install, I forgot to enable file sharing on desktop. (Did installation 2 days ago). Today I wanted to share a file on my desktop with my laptop, so I went to desktop and opened the network folder, and to my amazement, I could see the laptop icon! This was good! I then remembered that since the workgroup are still the same, this is ok. I then enabled file sharing on the desktop, and this time both showed up on desktop. I checked on laptop, and both were showing here too! Ping worked from both sides this time. Icons were also showing on both computers - and finally, I was now able to access my files from both the computers - win98 and winXP. On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 8:59 am Posted by astro3ron (1 messages posted) On the Win98SE system, I have no need to share the printers on either system and therefore, did not check the share printers. To make this work, files and printers must both be shared? On Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 7:13 am, zimba wrote: >I had teh exact same problem except I couldn't even ping my win98 desktop from my >winxp laptop. I could see the desktop icon in My Network Places in winxp, but could >not either open it nor ping desktop. > >I could ping laptop from desktop, but not see laptop icon in Network folder in desktop >(win98). Since i was able to ping the xp (laptop), here's how i accessed files on >xp: > >Start -> Run: \\ipaddress of xp > >This opened up a window showing all the shared folders on the laptop(xp). File transfers >were then possible, but only from the desktop. > >Then 3 days later, my desktop caught some virus and got very sick. It's registry >was wiped out along with the VFAT. So I had to re-format the C: drive and re-install >the OS. >NB: Just deleting the windows folder and re-installing the OS gave the same network >problems. After the formatted install, I forgot to enable file sharing on desktop. >(Did installation 2 days ago). Today I wanted to share a file on my desktop with >my laptop, so I went to desktop and opened the network folder, and to my amazement, >I could see the laptop icon! This was good! I then remembered that since the workgroup >are still the same, this is ok. I then enabled file sharing on the desktop, and this >time both showed up on desktop. I checked on laptop, and both were showing here too! >Ping worked from both sides this time. Icons were also showing on both computers >- and finally, I was now able to access my files from both the computers - win98 >and winXP. > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Friday, August 20, 2004 at 10:31 pm Posted by zimba (8 messages posted) If you just want to share files, then there's no need to enable printer sharing. Just enable File sharing. On Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 8:59 am, astro3ron wrote: >On the Win98SE system, I have no need to share the printers on either system and >therefore, did not check the share printers. To make this work, files and printers >must both be shared? > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network speed between WinXP and Win98 Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 1:46 pm Posted by Darrin (2 messages posted) yo how do you set up the win 98SE and the XP to share files? i got them to share the internet and thats it plz tell me i really want 2 know [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 4:42 pm Posted by Scott (7 messages posted) I'm helping a school with a Win98 and WinXP file/mapped drive sharing issue. The pseudo server used to be a Win98 machine with mapped drives. These folders contained files for programs the kids used. When they are done creating whatever they work on they then save off to another folder (mapped drive). Now that the pseudo server is a new WinXP Home machine we're seeing something very strange. Half the machines, 8 in total, cannot seem to access the XP machine when opening, what should be, a shared file. I've checked all the settings between the 8 PCs and the XP machine and I believe all is set correctly. If I shutdown 4 of the PCs then the other 4 can get on fine. If all 8 are on only four can access the shared drives. You see this error, or message, on boot up. Cannot access Drive E:(blah blah), then the next shared drive and so on until it's gone through all shared drives. Any ideas? On Friday, August 20, 2004 at 10:31 pm, zimba wrote: >If you just want to share files, then there's no need to >enable printer sharing. Just enable File sharing. > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, September 9, 2004 at 2:14 pm Posted by Jena (1 messages posted) I assume you are running XP Home Edition. Only 5 computers can connect to the XP computer at a time. Its a license issue. You either need to upgrade to XP Pro or downgrade to Windows 2000 Pro where you can have up to 10 computers connect at once. On Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 4:42 pm, Scott wrote: >I'm helping a school with a Win98 and WinXP file/mapped drive sharing issue. The > pseudo server used to be a Win98 machine with mapped drives. These folders contained >files for programs the kids used. When they are done creating whatever they work >on they then save off to another folder (mapped drive). Now that the pseudo server >is a new WinXP Home machine we're seeing something very strange. Half the machines, >8 in total, cannot seem to access the XP machine when opening, what should be, a >shared file. I've checked all the settings between the 8 PCs and the XP machine >and I believe all is set correctly. If I shutdown 4 of the PCs then the other 4 >can get on fine. If all 8 are on only four can access the shared drives. You see >this error, or message, on boot up. Cannot access Drive E:(blah blah), then the >next shared drive and so on until it's gone through all shared drives. > >Any ideas? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] The Real answer Tuesday, January 18, 2005 at 5:29 pm Posted by rainless (1 messages posted) I won't say it's easy, but all you have to do, it seems, is install the IPX/SPX protocol and enable Netbios. Forget about the Static IP address and all that crap. (I have a DHCP server built onto my router.) Forget about the Internet Connection Sharing too (unless you need it. I spent ALL DAY working on this problem and I tried every conceivable option. Then, once I got it to work, I went backwards to see what I could keep and what I could do without. Somebody mentioned they "weren't even able to ping there own computer". Stated it was a problem with the firewall. You *shouldn't* be able to ping your own computer. I was able to turn on the firewall in windows AND the firewall on my router. I still got the Windows 98SE and XP computers to see each other. I got rid of UdNP or whatever. Still worked. Got rid of the user somebody here suggested I create. Still worked. Matter of fact the only thing I did was install the Netware IPX drivers and enable Netbios in XP and I installed Netbui and IPX in Windows 98. My network is faster than I could have ever dreamed. Hope this helps somebody. On Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 4:42 pm, Scott wrote: >I'm helping a school with a Win98 and WinXP file/mapped drive sharing issue. The > pseudo server used to be a Win98 machine with mapped drives. These folders contained >files for programs the kids used. When they are done creating whatever they work >on they then save off to another folder (mapped drive). Now that the pseudo server >is a new WinXP Home machine we're seeing something very strange. Half the machines, >8 in total, cannot seem to access the XP machine when opening, what should be, a >shared file. I've checked all the settings between the 8 PCs and the XP machine >and I believe all is set correctly. If I shutdown 4 of the PCs then the other 4 >can get on fine. If all 8 are on only four can access the shared drives. You see >this error, or message, on boot up. Cannot access Drive E:(blah blah), then the >next shared drive and so on until it's gone through all shared drives. > >Any ideas? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: The Real answer Tuesday, January 18, 2005 at 6:10 pm Posted by Darrin (2 messages posted) ansdd how the hell do i enable netbios lol or do any of that stuff On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 at 5:29 pm, rainless wrote: > >I won't say it's easy, but all you have to do, it seems, is install the IPX/SPX protocol >and enable Netbios. Forget about the Static IP address and all that crap. (I have >a DHCP server built onto my router.) Forget about the Internet Connection Sharing >too (unless you need it. I spent ALL DAY working on this problem and I tried every >conceivable option. Then, once I got it to work, I went backwards to see what I >could keep and what I could do without. > >Somebody mentioned they "weren't even able to ping there own computer". Stated it >was a problem with the firewall. You *shouldn't* be able to ping your own computer. > I was able to turn on the firewall in windows AND the firewall on my router. I >still got the Windows 98SE and XP computers to see each other. I got rid of UdNP >or whatever. Still worked. Got rid of the user somebody here suggested I create. >Still worked. Matter of fact the only thing I did was install the Netware IPX drivers >and enable Netbios in XP and I installed Netbui and IPX in Windows 98. My network >is faster than I could have ever dreamed. > >Hope this helps somebody. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Network File sharing - Win 98 to Win XP Sunday, January 30, 2005 at 9:20 pm Posted by MikeT (1 messages posted) YES THANK YOU , THANK YOU , THANK YOU . I spent days on this problem . Disabling zone alarm did not work . Thats what drove me crazy. But, Once I changed the adapter from the internet zone to the trusted zone - man everything came online right away- printers , shared folders, the works. Who would have thunk ? Thanks for the pointer. On Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 4:15 pm, compudude86 wrote: >thank you very much. i use zone alarm firewall and couldnt understand why my systems >couldnt connect. it was the darn firewall. if you have zone alarm, click the firewall >tab, turn the "trusted zone" tab to "low", and set your network adapter as "trusted" >under the firewall tab's "zones" tab. > >thank you [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: The Real answer Friday, February 4, 2005 at 11:35 pm Posted by ruhajj (1 messages posted) To install the install the Netware IPX drivers and enable Netbios in XP you need to -> open "Network Places" and -> right click on your "local area connection" -> click "Properties" -> click "Install" -> click "Protocol" -> click "IPX/ . . . " -> you will be prompted to restart In windows 98, you will -> right click on "Network Neighborhood" -> select "Properties" -> click "install" -> click "Protocol" -> click the "Netbui", then repeat for IPX (order not important here) -> you will be prompted to restart *note- make sure your "workgroup" name is the same on both computers. On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 at 6:10 pm, Darrin wrote: > >ansdd how the hell do i enable netbios lol or do any of that stuff > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: The Real answer Wednesday, February 16, 2005 at 6:18 pm Posted by Meerez (6 messages posted) omg it worked perfectly!!!!!i am so happy i have been trying this for 6 months!!!! rain i love you man...u rock!!!!!! Thanks o_O [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, February 22, 2005 at 8:41 am Posted by Nicolas (2 messages posted) I am having a similar problem, only in reverse. I have three winXP machines that cannot create new files on a mapped win98 share. - all three XP machines in question are dell 4700s. - problem only occurs in Office 2000 programs (upgrading to XP is not an option). - problem only occurs when creating a new file directly from said Office 2000 programs. saving the file locally, then copy/pasting to the share drive works like a charm, it is only when the user tries to save the file directly to the mapped shared drive that an error occurs saying " The folder name isn't accessible. The folder may be located on an unavailable volume or protected with a password." i'm completedly stumped. On Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 4:42 pm, Scott wrote: >I'm helping a school with a Win98 and WinXP file/mapped drive sharing issue. The > pseudo server used to be a Win98 machine with mapped drives. These folders contained >files for programs the kids used. When they are done creating whatever they work >on they then save off to another folder (mapped drive). Now that the pseudo server >is a new WinXP Home machine we're seeing something very strange. Half the machines, >8 in total, cannot seem to access the XP machine when opening, what should be, a >shared file. I've checked all the settings between the 8 PCs and the XP machine >and I believe all is set correctly. If I shutdown 4 of the PCs then the other 4 >can get on fine. If all 8 are on only four can access the shared drives. You see >this error, or message, on boot up. Cannot access Drive E:(blah blah), then the >next shared drive and so on until it's gone through all shared drives. > >Any ideas? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Friday, April 15, 2005 at 4:14 pm Posted by RobFt (1 messages posted) I had been on the same tracks, kept me busy for a while, it was simpler than that. First of all, thanks to you all, this forum is very useful, although bit mixed up sometimes. What worked for me extremely well and without any further problems was a combination of a few things first I followed the link http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/net-update.asp posted by someone I can't recall sorry. By checking this I realized a few configuration errors. I then went looking at my antivirus protection for both computer and it turned out that the win98 PC antivirus had also a firewall I wasn't aware of. I turned both firewalls down, and got instant, transparent, problem free networking. I hope this helps. btw I have redundant firewalls through my 2wire router ... so the individual firewalls are not an issue. On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Friday, May 27, 2005 at 1:40 pm Posted by Chuck Hybarger (3 messages posted) Thanks to everyone that posted answers. I'm almost there. Have a mixture of Win98 SE and WinXP Pro. I have one WinXP Pro and one Win98 SE computer that no other computer can share a folder on, even though all the computers (even the 2 hold-outs) can share folders on the other 9 machines no matter what the operating system. The machines that will not share can be seen in Network Places/Neighborhood but when I try to map a drive or add a network place I get the message: \\[computername] is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource (etc., etc.). The network path was not found. I also can not ping the two computers by IP Address even though they are on the same hub as the machines that will share. (Times out.) The commands net view \\[IP Address] and net view \\[computer name] give the error: System error 53 has occurred The network path was not found They are all in the same Workgroup I am running NetBIOS over TCP/IP We use non-blank passwords to login to computers but use blank passwords for the share folders. IP Address is assigned by DHCP server/router I enabled File and Printer Sharing I unchecked Qos Packet Scheduler Share Names have less than 8 characters I have tried to map drives, didn't work I have disabled all Norton firewalls and anti-virus I have disabled TCP/IP Packet Filtering I have not tried LMHOSTS or messed with the Registry. Any ideas ? Thanks, Chuck On Sunday, September 7, 2003 at 5:06 am, George Martin wrote: >THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >BRILLIANT - I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE SOLUTION TO THIS FOR AGES. MANY MANY THX. >:0)))))) > >George > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: The Real answer Wednesday, July 6, 2005 at 11:30 am Posted by Steve Saaf (4 messages posted) THis sounds too good to be true. Are you saying that if I use just ipx/spx I don't need to worry about subnets, ipaddr., etc? I have a small net that uses APIPA for the lan with no ICS, only the XP Pro can get out. But I am still having problems with the 98 1st ed because it so dated with facilities to track what is where. Does xo have ipx/spx? On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 at 5:29 pm, rainless wrote: > >I won't say it's easy, but all you have to do, it seems, is install the IPX/SPX protocol >and enable Netbios. Forget about the Static IP address and all that crap. (I have >a DHCP server built onto my router.) Forget about the Internet Connection Sharing >too (unless you need it. I spent ALL DAY working on this problem and I tried every >conceivable option. Then, once I got it to work, I went backwards to see what I >could keep and what I could do without. > >Somebody mentioned they "weren't even able to ping there own computer". Stated it >was a problem with the firewall. You *shouldn't* be able to ping your own computer. > I was able to turn on the firewall in windows AND the firewall on my router. I >still got the Windows 98SE and XP computers to see each other. I got rid of UdNP >or whatever. Still worked. Got rid of the user somebody here suggested I create. >Still worked. Matter of fact the only thing I did was install the Netware IPX drivers >and enable Netbios in XP and I installed Netbui and IPX in Windows 98. My network >is faster than I could have ever dreamed. > >Hope this helps somebody. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 7:48 pm Posted by majaan (1 messages posted) Disabled Kerio FIre wall on the win 98 comp and bingo, all probs solved and all is good !! Thanks for ending my frustrations !!!!!!!!!!!! majaan On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:47 am, Matthew Tilove wrote: >I have a question about Connect >a Windows XP or 2000 system to a Windows 95, 98, or Me system over a Network: > >My network consists of two computers: a laptop ('LAPTOP') running WinXP and a desktop >('MBT') running Win98. Internet connection sharing is running fine (The XP machine >is sharing its connection), but I can't get file or print sharing to work. The 98 >machine won't recognize the XP machine in the network neighborhood, although I can >ping the XP machine and get a response. The XP machine does recognize the 98 machine, >and all of the shares are displayed in My Network Places - but I cannot access any >of them. Furthermore, from the XP machine I can't ping "MBT" (I get a "could not >find host" error), but if I enter the IP address ping works fine. > >Both machines are logged in with the same user name and password, and simple file >sharing is turned on on the XP machine. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 10:10 pm Posted by Markle_Sparkle (1 messages posted) Hi, Just want to let you know it is possible to get winXP & win98 talking, sharing files, internet & printers. I did it, don't ask me how though - I've forgotten. Don't give up - it's possible to do it. The only problem I'm having now is that winXP tends to drop off the network every 1-2 hours and I have to log off / log on again. Which is frustrating if you're in the middle of an important email or something. After 1-2 hrs the winXP machine becomes sluggish with audio and mouse lag every 5 or so seconds, viewing task manager reveals cyclic spikes in cpu usage, but nothin in processes to reveal the application causing the problem. The only remedy that works so far is as I've said - log off / log back in again. Good luck with you networking... It's a pain, but it's great when it works. Mark. On Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 7:48 pm, majaan wrote: >Disabled Kerio FIre wall on the win 98 comp and bingo, all probs solved and all is >good !! >Thanks for ending my frustrations !!!!!!!!!!!! >majaan > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Monday, April 10, 2006 at 5:20 am Posted by Sujit Bhattacharya (1 messages posted) Mr. Mathew It is a network of just two desktop, where on is loaded with Win98 and the other winWin XP proffessional . NOW the desktop which is having Win XP is acting as the proxy server, on the other hand the desktop having WIN 98 is having connected printer to it and thus acting as a printserver. Now when Network place in winXP is configured it is accessing the win98 and is pinging too but when it come to win98 niether it is pinging WinXP desktop it it can be configured on the network . What could be the trouble . [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 4:16 am Posted by SANJAY KUMAR (1 messages posted) I have problem of sharing in between 98 & XP On Monday, April 10, 2006 at 5:20 am, Sujit Bhattacharya wrote: >Mr. Mathew > It is a network of just two desktop, where on is loaded with >Win98 and the other winWin XP proffessional . NOW the desktop which is having Win >XP is acting as the proxy server, on the other hand the desktop having WIN 98 is >having connected printer to it and thus acting as a printserver. Now when Network >place in winXP is configured it is accessing the win98 and is pinging too but when >it come to win98 niether it is pinging WinXP desktop it it can be configured on >the network . What could be the trouble > > >. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 8:03 am Posted by gewg_ (3936 messages posted) SANJAY KUMAR wrote: |I have problem of sharing in between 98 & XP You posted to a thread that already has 87 responses and you didn't think to look at any of them for the answer to your question. You must be incredibly stupid. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: File sharing between Win 98 and Win XP Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 7:43 am Posted by Denis Baggi (1 messages posted) I read all messages but could not find the answer for me. Since 2004, I have had a laptop with XP Pro, MACHINE1, and an old WIN98, MACHINE2. At that time, after a lot of frustration, I managed to see all shared disks of MACHINE1 on MACHINE2 and vice versa - the problem was the firewall on the XP machine. Recently I had to rebuild the OS of MACHINE1, and though on it I now see the disks of MACHINE2, I am unable on MACHINE2, Win98, to see those of MACHINE1, XP. It asks for a password for \\MACHINE1\IPC$, whatever that means, so I cannot go on. However, by disabling "guest" and also "Simple file sharing" in the folder options on MACHINE1, I am able to see the shared disks of MACHINE1 on another XP Home machine, MACHINE3, if I supply both a login and password in the pop up window. But the pop up window in Win98 has only one possible entry, the password. Incidentally I see MACHINE3, XP Home, on MACHINE2, Win98. Hence, the share of MACHINE 1, XP PRO, works only if the OS supplies a pop-up windows with both login and passwd, which Win98 does not. I believe the "guest" account on MACHINE1, which allows login with no password, does not have its permissions set correctly, though I have set them both in the "sharing" and in the "security" tab. Perhaps if that account were correctly set, then the XP share would work on a Win98 machine. So it's a question of permissions, but I have no idea where to look. Thanks, Denis [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows 98 Discussion Forum