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Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:38 am
Posted by jay (7 messages posted)

I have a Question about Networking various Windows vers...
the network has a few computers with the following os's:
* Win 95 
* Win 3.11 for workgroups
* Win 98
these all can 'see' and access each other just fine

as a temporary thing i have a win XP computer connected
(belongs to my brother & i needed to transfer some data)
..the problem is: the XP comp 'sees' nothing (except itself),
but the 98 & 95 comp's can 'see' AND access it (so i can 
add or delete files on the XP from these), the 3.11 also 
doesnt see the XP
anyone know why it works in this odd way...allowing some
computers to access, but not seeing them?

i am not using ICS, just a plain IPX/SPX / NetBEUI network

-Thanks
Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 1:31 am
Posted by Michael (2800 messages posted)

You probably wouldn't have the problems if you used TCP/IP as a protocol. You could 
assign them all IP addresses in the range 192.168.0.x

Also, you will probably find that you can use UNC names to map drives on the other 
machines from the XP machine even if you can't browse them.




On Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:38 am, jay wrote:
>I have a Question about Networking various Windows vers...
>the network has a few computers with the following os's:
>* Win 95 
>* Win 3.11 for workgroups
>* Win 98
>these all can 'see' and access each other just fine
>
>as a temporary thing i have a win XP computer connected
>(belongs to my brother & i needed to transfer some data)
>..the problem is: the XP comp 'sees' nothing (except itself),
>but the 98 & 95 comp's can 'see' AND access it (so i can 
>add or delete files on the XP from these), the 3.11 also 
>doesnt see the XP
>anyone know why it works in this odd way...allowing some
>computers to access, but not seeing them?
>
>i am not using ICS, just a plain IPX/SPX / NetBEUI network
>
>-Thanks
>Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 1:41 am
Posted by MeTaL (333 messages posted)

Mike is right TCP/IP is alot easier to work with.
Also make sure all the comps are in the same workgroup that should speed up seek times over the network.
Even if you can't see all the comps in the netowrk neighborhood you should still be able to do a find for the computer name and be able to access it.
Give each comp a IP of 192.168.1.xxx xxx can be any number between 1-254 each comp gets its own number there. Set the subnet mask for each comp 255.255.255.0
Don't worry about the gateway or DNS unless you are routing all the comps through a router for internet connection.
If you are then the Gateway would be the routers IP.
and the DNS would be the IP numbers of the nameservers for your ISP or proxy server.
I hope this helps
~o0 MeTaL 0o~


On Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:38 am, jay wrote:

>I have a Question about Networking various Windows vers...
>the network has a few computers with the following os's:
>* Win 95 
>* Win 3.11 for workgroups
>* Win 98
>these all can 'see' and access each other just fine
>
>as a temporary thing i have a win XP computer connected
>(belongs to my brother & i needed to transfer some data)
>..the problem is: the XP comp 'sees' nothing (except itself),
>but the 98 & 95 comp's can 'see' AND access it (so i can 
>add or delete files on the XP from these), the 3.11 also 
>doesnt see the XP
>anyone know why it works in this odd way...allowing some
>computers to access, but not seeing them?
>
>i am not using ICS, just a plain IPX/SPX / NetBEUI network
>
>-Thanks
>Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:59 pm
Posted by amaralliya e. thenardier (3194 messages posted)

the fact that the original network uses netbeui might be part of the problem. see these two mskb articles (if you haven't already):

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 4:37 am
Posted by jomally (1 messages posted)

why would you want to run a 17 year old non routable protocol, when tcp/ip works so well? is there something to netbeui we should consider?


On Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:59 pm, amaralliya e. thenardier wrote:
>the fact that the original network uses netbeui might be part of the problem. see
>these two mskb articles (if you haven't already):


>

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 5:54 am
Posted by amaralliya e. thenardier (3194 messages posted)

why would you want to run a 17 year old non routable protocol, when tcp/ip works so well? is there something to netbeui we should consider?
one of the best answers to your question is actually in your question: netbeui is non-routable. for security, if you'd like to completely separate your windows shares from other networks (like the internet), netbeui is one way to do it.

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 6:32 am
Posted by Tom (1 messages posted)

by the way have you ever tried to install TCP/IP on a windows for workgroups ????????

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 10:40 am
Posted by amaralliya e. thenardier (3194 messages posted)

yes, actually. my i386dx-33 system running win3.11 was connected to this network for a while, surfing the web just like the rest of the machines (windows xp ics host). if you want to do it, you'll need win32s and wolverine (tcp/ip32).

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 at 7:28 pm
Posted by ShaneD (9 messages posted)

Usually, assumptions are made that you already passed the XP Firewall problem. Have you tried turning off your XP Firewall? It worked for me!


On Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:38 am, jay wrote:

>I have a Question about Networking various Windows vers...
>the network has a few computers with the following os's:
>* Win 95 
>* Win 3.11 for workgroups
>* Win 98
>these all can 'see' and access each other just fine
>
>as a temporary thing i have a win XP computer connected
>(belongs to my brother & i needed to transfer some data)
>..the problem is: the XP comp 'sees' nothing (except itself),
>but the 98 & 95 comp's can 'see' AND access it (so i can 
>add or delete files on the XP from these), the 3.11 also 
>doesnt see the XP
>anyone know why it works in this odd way...allowing some
>computers to access, but not seeing them?
>
>i am not using ICS, just a plain IPX/SPX / NetBEUI network
>
>-Thanks
>Jay

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Networking on XP 98 ME LAN without ICS
Friday, October 17, 2003 at 5:20 pm
Posted by josel (1 messages posted)

Networking on XP 98 ME LAN without Internet Connection Sharing or Network Setup Wizard: on the course of writing this question I found the answer to it, so I placed it on the bottom: Know this beforehand: it ain't pretty ______________________ My network consists of 3 computers (win 98, ME and XP) connected directly to a hub leading to a cable modem(without any router/firewall) Is there a way to Simultaneously use TCP/IP to network AND to access internet individually (without ICS or Internet Connection Sharing), considering the cable modem assigns ip addresses to each machine? The alternative I was looking for was NetBEUI but I can't get it to work on the XP machine, nor does it link 98 to ME or would IPX also work? I installed it and was able to view(not access) the xp machine from ME and 98, while the xp machine could see all 3 yes I now have a mess of 3 protocols at the same time on top of the other, plus the ME laptop can't see yet can be seen and browsed. summary if you got lost (I did): ME - can't see none, has internet, TCP/IP IPX and NETBEUI(probably doing nothing?) 98 - can browse ME and just see yet not access at all XP, same protocols as ME, has internet XP - sees all, hears all, has internet and all protocols(NetBeui is on the XP cd in a folder) all on same workgroup, different usernames, XP has account for the usernames on the other PCs, PCs have names without spaces in between or commas... what might be the problem? ____________________ ok now the fix to my problem: user accounts in XP are unnecesary for 98, ME to work You need, apparently, BOTH netBeui and IPX(for 98-ME go to IPX options and enable NetBIOS) if either one is missing, it wouldn't work for me. At first it nothing may work but look closely it might work intermittently. At this point the 98 machine detects XP like before yet doesn't access, XP accesses fine though. On one occasion I was able to enter from 98 to XP, pressed BACK, and couldn't go back in so be careful. At this point I also shut down the ME laptop and discarded trying to make it work. Install or Uninstall each protocol independently, not all at the same time. Doing that a couple of times in random order seems to help. If anyone knows a more elegant way to network 98 ME and XP please illustrate me.

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Friday, October 17, 2003 at 8:59 pm
Posted by jay (7 messages posted)

On Tuesday, October 14, 2003 at 7:28 pm, Shane wrote:
>Usually, assumptions are made that you already passed the XP Firewall problem.
>Have you tried turning off your XP Firewall?
>It worked for me!
>
at the time i wrote the original message
back in 2002 i didn't know XP had a 
Firewall (learned that at a later date)...
but i don't think that was the problem, 
my guess is that its because XP doesn't 
support NetBEUI.

There's a chance that my brother may
bring his XP computer back over in Nov.
if he does i may try again using the
NetBEUI add-on MicroSoft provides for 
XP.. 
my network is still the same as before.

>>On Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:38 am, jay wrote: 
>>
>>I have a Question about Networking various Windows vers...
>>the network has a few computers with the following os's:
>>* Win 95 
>>* Win 3.11 for workgroups
>>* Win 98
>>these all can 'see' and access each other just fine
>>
>>as a temporary thing i have a win XP computer connected
>>(belongs to my brother & i needed to transfer some data)
>>..the problem is: the XP comp 'sees' nothing (except itself),
>>but the 98 & 95 comp's can 'see' AND access it (so i can 
>>add or delete files on the XP from these), the 3.11 also 
>>doesnt see the XP
>>anyone know why it works in this odd way...allowing some
>>computers to access, but not seeing them?
>>
>>i am not using ICS, just a plain IPX/SPX / NetBEUI network
>>
>>-Thanks
>>Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 10:03 am
Posted by ShaneD (9 messages posted)

(I added the D to my name to become different from other Shanes) I'm only 13 and I networked a 98 and XP together, so you should be able to. It works perfectly fine! Try giving a list of protocols and clients and that stuff, I may be able to help you further. I need one for the 98 and one on the XP. (list of protocols and clients)


On Friday, October 17, 2003 at 8:59 pm, Jay wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 14, 2003 at 7:28 pm, Shane wrote:
>Usually, assumptions are made that you already passed the XP Firewall problem.
>Have you tried turning off your XP Firewall?
>It worked for me!
>
>at the time i wrote the original message
>back in 2002 i didn't know XP had a 
>Firewall (learned that at a later date)...
>but i don't think that was the problem, 
>my guess is that its because XP doesn't 
>support NetBEUI.
>
>There's a chance that my brother may
>bring his XP computer back over in Nov.
>if he does i may try again using the
>NetBEUI add-on MicroSoft provides for 
>XP.. 
>my network is still the same as before.
>
>>On Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:38 am, jay wrote: 
>>
>>I have a Question about Networking various Windows vers...
>>the network has a few computers with the following os's:
>>* Win 95 
>>* Win 3.11 for workgroups
>>* Win 98
>>these all can 'see' and access each other just fine
>>
>>as a temporary thing i have a win XP computer connected
>>(belongs to my brother & i needed to transfer some data)
>>..the problem is: the XP comp 'sees' nothing (except itself),
>>but the 98 & 95 comp's can 'see' AND access it (so i can 
>>add or delete files on the XP from these), the 3.11 also 
>>doesnt see the XP
>>anyone know why it works in this odd way...allowing some
>>computers to access, but not seeing them?
>>
>>i am not using ICS, just a plain IPX/SPX / NetBEUI network
>>
>>-Thanks
>>Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Sunday, October 19, 2003 at 8:16 pm
Posted by jay (7 messages posted)

On Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 10:03 am, ShaneD wrote:
>(I added the D to my name to become different from other Shanes)
>I'm only 13 and I networked a 98 and XP together, so you should be able to. It works 
>perfectly fine! Try giving a list of protocols and clients and that stuff, I may 
>be able to help you further. I need one for the 98 and one on the XP. (list of protocols 
>and clients)
>
I can't say for sure on the XP comp 
right now since its at my brother's 
place (like i mentioned he _might_ 
bring it over here around the end of
nov.)
but here's the settings

(win 3.11 for workgroups) 
protocols are: IPX/SPX and NetBEUI
Client is: Microsoft Windows Network v3.11

(win 95) 
protocols are: IPX/SPX and NetBEUI
Client is: Client for Microsoft Networks

(win 98) 
protocols are: IPX/SPX and NetBEUI
Client is: Client for Microsoft Networks

(win XP) **not 100% sure on this but close to it**
protocols are: IPX/SPX 
Client is: Client for Microsoft Networks

-Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Monday, October 20, 2003 at 2:34 pm
Posted by ShaneD (9 messages posted)

On my two computers, it is set up like this:
98
   Microsoft Client
   Flie/Printer Sharing
   NetBEUI
   TCP/IP

XP
   Microsoft Client
   QoS Packet Scheduler
   File/Printer Sharing
   NetBEUI
   TCP/IP

I say you need to set up the NetBEUI driver on that thing.
   




On Sunday, October 19, 2003 at 8:16 pm, Jay wrote:
>On Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 10:03 am, ShaneD wrote:
>(I added the D to my name to become different from other Shanes)
>I'm only 13 and I networked a 98 and XP together, so you should be able to. It works 
>perfectly fine! Try giving a list of protocols and clients and that stuff, I may 
>be able to help you further. I need one for the 98 and one on the XP. (list of protocols 
>and clients)
>
>I can't say for sure on the XP comp 
>right now since its at my brother's 
>place (like i mentioned he _might_ 
>bring it over here around the end of
>nov.)
>but here's the settings
>
>(win 3.11 for workgroups) 
>protocols are: IPX/SPX and NetBEUI
>Client is: Microsoft Windows Network v3.11
>
>(win 95) 
>protocols are: IPX/SPX and NetBEUI
>Client is: Client for Microsoft Networks
>
>(win 98) 
>protocols are: IPX/SPX and NetBEUI
>Client is: Client for Microsoft Networks
>
>(win XP) **not 100% sure on this but close to it**
>protocols are: IPX/SPX 
>Client is: Client for Microsoft Networks
>
>-Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 6:28 pm
Posted by jay (7 messages posted)

On Monday, October 20, 2003 at 2:34 pm, ShaneD wrote:
>On my two computers, it is set up like this:
>98
>   Microsoft Client
>   Flie/Printer Sharing
>   NetBEUI
>   TCP/IP
>
>XP
>   Microsoft Client
>   QoS Packet Scheduler
>   File/Printer Sharing
>   NetBEUI
>   TCP/IP
>
>I say you need to set up the NetBEUI driver on that thing.
>   
>
yep.. i think thats the problem too. (at
least with the 95 & 98 pc's since they
partly worked).. the 3.11wg - who knows
until i try it
but M$ didn't include NetBEUI with XP 
so i'm going to have to get it from 
their webpage 
i'll post a results reply when i've
tried this (mid to end of November)

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 7:53 pm
Posted by ShaneD (9 messages posted)



Okay, you said...



On Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 6:28 pm, Jay wrote:
>On Monday, October 20, 2003 at 2:34 pm, ShaneD wrote:
>On my two computers, it is set up like this:
>98
>   Microsoft Client
>   Flie/Printer Sharing
>   NetBEUI
>   TCP/IP
>
>XP
>   Microsoft Client
>   QoS Packet Scheduler
>   File/Printer Sharing
>   NetBEUI
>   TCP/IP
>
>I say you need to set up the NetBEUI driver on that thing.
>>   
>
>yep.. i think thats the problem too. (at
>least with the 95 & 98 pc's since they
>partly worked).. the 3.11wg - who knows
>until i try it
>but M$ didn't include NetBEUI with XP 
>so i'm going to have to get it from 
>their webpage 
>i'll post a results reply when i've
>tried this (mid to end of November)
Actually, I think it IS on the CD. It is in a different folder on there, look for it.

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 7:50 am
Posted by Nylore (1 messages posted)

Just my two cents worth.... Netbeui is on the XP cd xpcd\valueadd\msft\net\netbeui Just follow the directions in the netbeui.txt file

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 6:32 pm
Posted by ShaneD (9 messages posted)

I told you it was on the cd!





On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 7:50 am, Nylore wrote: >Just my two cents worth.... > > >Netbeui is on the XP cd > >xpcd\valueadd\msft\net\netbeui > >Just follow the directions in the netbeui.txt file >

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 7:29 am
Posted by Sharad (1 messages posted)

I've read the whole thread and just wanted to add that I think it's pretty impressive that Jay has managed to network three (four?) different computers, all with different OS's. I think I'd bang my head on a wall if I tried that. I have a slightly different question: I have a laptop with wireless internet access (WinXP) networked to another WinXP computer in Kingston. This was done the easy way (if you can call it that), with the windows home networking wizard. I've come home to Toronto and would like to access my sister's network printer from my laptop. Her computer is Win98 and attached to a wireless router. Although her printer is set to share print jobs I'm unable to access it. I currently have internet access through her wireless router. Question #1: Do I need to network my laptop with her computer? Quesiton #2: What's the easy way to do it? Question #3: If we network our computers, does this mean that I can send a print job to her printer from my laptop Kingston? Thanks.


On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 6:32 pm, ShaneD wrote:

>I told you it was on the cd!
>
>

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 8:00 am
Posted by ShaneD (9 messages posted)

Response 1: To the best of my knowledge, yes.
Response 2: Make sure her computer has the network (not internet) protocol 
of your laptop (this I mean as in NetBEUI, Novell Protocol etc. etc.), make sure 
she also has Windows Client and File and Printer Sharing.
Also make sure that you are in the same workgroup.
If that is too hard, try your network setup disk.
Question 3: Only if your laptop is connected to the router (it) will it be on the 
network.
Make sure her printer is compable with XP.
I haven't printed to a 98 from an XP yet, but the other way around I have.
Good luck!




On Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 7:29 am, Sharad wrote: >I've read the whole thread and just wanted to add that I think it's pretty impressive >that Jay has managed to network three (four?) different computers, all with different >OS's. I think I'd bang my head on a wall if I tried that. > >I have a slightly different question: I have a laptop with wireless internet access >(WinXP) networked to another WinXP computer in Kingston. This was done the easy >way (if you can call it that), with the windows home networking wizard. > >I've come home to Toronto and would like to access my sister's network printer from >my laptop. Her computer is Win98 and attached to a wireless router. Although her >printer is set to share print jobs I'm unable to access it. I currently have internet >access through her wireless router. > >Question #1: Do I need to network my laptop with her computer? > >Quesiton #2: What's the easy way to do it? > >Question #3: If we network our computers, does this mean that I can send a print >job to her printer from my laptop Kingston? > >Thanks. >

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 9:13 pm
Posted by jay (7 messages posted)

On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 7:50 am, Nylore wrote:
>Just my two cents worth....
>Netbeui is on the XP cd
>xpcd\valueadd\msft\net\netbeui
>Just follow the directions in the netbeui.txt file
ok i did get my brother's computer sorta working (even 
without netbeui)... now my dad got a new pc with Win XP.
and the problem is even worse.. the thing for the most 
part won't work on my network (ohhh do i hate XP)
the computers all have:
  Client for Microsoft networks
  File & printer sharing for Microsoft networks
  NetBEUI
  IPX/SPX
(note XP has 2 extras)
  NetBIOS (see note below)
  QoS Packet Scheduler (not selected)

XP firewall is off
-------------------------
for simpleness when i say 'see' means the computer
name shows when browsing the network, nothing more
pc1 = a 486 w/ windows 3.11 for workgroups
pc2 = a pentium w/ win98
pc3 = pentium w/ win95
pc4 = celaron w/ win98
XP is of course the new one 

here's what i'm getting:...
XP can 'see' and access pc1 (only if NetBIOS selected)
XP can also 'see' but not access pc4
pc1 can 'see' XP
pc2 .. nothing
pc3 can 'see' XP but not access
pc4 can 'see' XP but not access
of course 1,2,3,& 4 can all see & access each other

this thing is driving me crazy & i've basically given up... 
any ideas?

-Thanks
Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Wednesday, January 7, 2004 at 7:06 pm
Posted by ShaneD (9 messages posted)

Aww man... Netcard burnt out, Gateway reformatted the hard drive...second time a network is lost to reformatting... Anyway, did you triple check your workgroup?


On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 9:13 pm, Jay wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 7:50 am, Nylore wrote:
>Just my two cents worth....
>Netbeui is on the XP cd
>xpcd\valueadd\msft\net\netbeui
>Just follow the directions in the netbeui.txt file
>ok i did get my brother's computer sorta working (even 
>without netbeui)... now my dad got a new pc with Win XP.
>and the problem is even worse.. the thing for the most 
>part won't work on my network (ohhh do i hate XP)
>the computers all have:
>  Client for Microsoft networks
>  File & printer sharing for Microsoft networks
>  NetBEUI
>  IPX/SPX
>(note XP has 2 extras)
>  NetBIOS (see note below)
>  QoS Packet Scheduler (not selected)
>
>XP firewall is off
>-------------------------
>for simpleness when i say 'see' means the computer
>name shows when browsing the network, nothing more
>pc1 = a 486 w/ windows 3.11 for workgroups
>pc2 = a pentium w/ win98
>pc3 = pentium w/ win95
>pc4 = celaron w/ win98
>XP is of course the new one 
>
>here's what i'm getting:...
>XP can 'see' and access pc1 (only if NetBIOS selected)
>XP can also 'see' but not access pc4
>pc1 can 'see' XP
>pc2 .. nothing
>pc3 can 'see' XP but not access
>pc4 can 'see' XP but not access
>of course 1,2,3,& 4 can all see & access each other
>
>this thing is driving me crazy & i've basically given up... 
>any ideas?
>
>-Thanks
>Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Sunday, January 18, 2004 at 3:50 pm
Posted by jay (7 messages posted)

On Wednesday, January 7, 2004 at 7:06 pm, Shane D wrote:
>Aww man...
>Netcard burnt out, Gateway reformatted the hard 
>drive...second time a network is  lost to reformatting...
>
that sucks :(  why would they reformat just for a bad 
network card? .. it makes no sense to me.

>Anyway, did you triple check your workgroup?
>
yep. in all cases its "WORKGROUP"

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 9:17 am
Posted by Anthony (2 messages posted)

I have printed to a Win98 machine from XP and to XP from Win98 over a network, I have run into many problems and suggestions but in the end my own trial and error paid off! The complete solution that worked perfect for me (on top of sharing the printer) was to install the printer drivers on the XP machine as if the printer were connected to it so the XP machine could send the job straight to the printer by going through the Win98 machine without it having to do all the software work (queue, etc...) This worked the first time I tried it and still works today (a year later). I still do my quality printing on the Win98 machine, even from the XP machine. Another solution would be to transfer the file your printing to the Win98 machine and then print it from there (if you have the same program to open it). Hope I could help someone!


On Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 8:00 am, Shane D wrote:

>Response 1: To the best of my knowledge, yes.
>Response 2: Make sure her computer has the network (not internet) protocol 
>of your laptop (this I mean as in NetBEUI, Novell Protocol etc. etc.), make sure 
>she also has Windows Client and File and Printer Sharing.
>Also make sure that you are in the same workgroup.
>If that is too hard, try your network setup disk.
>Question 3: Only if your laptop is connected to the router (it) will it be on the 
>network.
>Make sure her printer is compable with XP.
>I haven't printed to a 98 from an XP yet, but the other way around I have.
>Good luck!
>

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 9:26 am
Posted by Anthony (2 messages posted)

I'm still having an Impossible time trying to get the IPX/SPX protocol to work between a Win98-Machine and a WinXP-Machine. I think I've just about given up completely!!! I can see and acces both from either machine. I can print to and from both and both have complete internet access. My problem is getting the IPX protocol to work so I can use an old (win95) program between the two. (yes, it's a game... But it's been my favorite for so long I don't want to let it go!) The IPX protocol works perfect on the Win98 machine and any other machine that get's connected to the network EXCEPT an XP-System!!! IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE IPX WORK ON WinXP? That's my only question... I've tried setting up a VPN too... It worked flawlessly in every way except supporting the IPX protocol on the XP machine. (VPN= Virtual Private Network) Any tips or suggetions would be greatly appreciated!


On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 9:13 pm, Jay wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 7:50 am, Nylore wrote:
>Just my two cents worth....
>Netbeui is on the XP cd
>xpcd\valueadd\msft\net\netbeui
>Just follow the directions in the netbeui.txt file
>ok i did get my brother's computer sorta working (even 
>without netbeui)... now my dad got a new pc with Win XP.
>and the problem is even worse.. the thing for the most 
>part won't work on my network (ohhh do i hate XP)
>the computers all have:
>  Client for Microsoft networks
>  File & printer sharing for Microsoft networks
>  NetBEUI
>  IPX/SPX
>(note XP has 2 extras)
>  NetBIOS (see note below)
>  QoS Packet Scheduler (not selected)
>
>XP firewall is off
>-------------------------
>for simpleness when i say 'see' means the computer
>name shows when browsing the network, nothing more
>pc1 = a 486 w/ windows 3.11 for workgroups
>pc2 = a pentium w/ win98
>pc3 = pentium w/ win95
>pc4 = celaron w/ win98
>XP is of course the new one 
>
>here's what i'm getting:...
>XP can 'see' and access pc1 (only if NetBIOS selected)
>XP can also 'see' but not access pc4
>pc1 can 'see' XP
>pc2 .. nothing
>pc3 can 'see' XP but not access
>pc4 can 'see' XP but not access
>of course 1,2,3,& 4 can all see & access each other
>
>this thing is driving me crazy & i've basically given up... 
>any ideas?
>
>-Thanks
>Jay

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Friday, April 9, 2004 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Dood1e (1 messages posted)

I have exactly the same problem! I am trying to get the game M.A.X working on IXP connection. I can host from the windows 98 pc but my XP will not have it :S


On Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 9:26 am, Anthony wrote:
>I'm still having an Impossible time trying to get the IPX/SPX protocol to work between
>a Win98-Machine and a WinXP-Machine. I think I've just about given up completely!!!
>
>I can see and acces both from either machine. I can print to and from both and both
>have complete internet access.
>
>My problem is getting the IPX protocol to work so I can use an old (win95) program
>between the two.
>(yes, it's a game... But it's been my favorite for so long I don't want to let it
>go!) The IPX protocol works perfect on the Win98 machine and any other machine
>that get's connected to the network EXCEPT an XP-System!!!
>
>IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE IPX WORK ON WinXP?
>
>That's my only question...
>I've tried setting up a VPN too... It worked flawlessly in every way except supporting
>the IPX protocol on the XP machine. (VPN= Virtual Private Network)
>
>Any tips or suggetions would be greatly appreciated!
>
>

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re: Question about Networking Windows XP, 95, 98 & 3.11'
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 8:57 pm
Posted by pettygrew (1 messages posted)

I just wanted to thank this group for giving me the suggestion I needed to fix my networking problem. I have been trying for over a month to get my Win 95 networked to my WinXP machine. WinXp would see the Win95 name but not the shared drives. Pinging didn't work either. Win95 refused to see WinXP altogether. Nothing worked, until I found this thread. Installing Netbeui did the trick. Thanks. pettygrew


On Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 8:00 am, ShaneD wrote:
>
>Response 1: To the best of my knowledge, yes.
>Response 2: Make sure her computer has the network (not internet) protocol
>of your laptop (this I mean as in NetBEUI, Novell Protocol etc. etc.), make sure
>she also has Windows Client and File and Printer Sharing.
>Also make sure that you are in the same workgroup.
>If that is too hard, try your network setup disk.
>Question 3: Only if your laptop is connected to the router (it) will it be on the
>network.
>Make sure her printer is compable with XP.
>I haven't printed to a 98 from an XP yet, but the other way around I have.
>Good luck!
>

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