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Question about 'Setting up Dial-Up Networking'
Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Timothy Hinds (4 messages posted)

I have a question about Setting up Dial-Up Networking:

I'm out of things to try & I'd appreciate any fresh ideas anybody can give me. My wife's Windows 98 system (from Micron) reported a registry error yesterday, which SCANREG claimed to have fixed. However, since then, Dialup Networking does not see the U.S. Robotics 33.6K internal PnP fax modem that was working fine with DUN before. When I try to add a DUN connection, DUN doesn't see the modem, but instead searches for a modem on COM1 & COM2.

I have tried all possible combinations of the following, including all of the at once:

* remove the modem logically in Win98

* remove the modem physically, reboot, reinstall after verifying its absence

* remove the COM1 & COM2 ports from Win98

* disable the serial ports in the BIOS

* remove & reinstall the Dialup Adapter

* uninstall & reinstall Dialup Networking itself

I have verified that the modem works fine in another machine.

I have tried different IRQ settings for the comm ports in Windows and tried enabling different combinations of them in the BIOS, trying to get them to go elsewhere than COM1 & COM2. I've succeeded in getting them to be COM5 & COM6, but then DUN only searches for a modem on COM5 & COM6, but not COM1 where I made the modem go, or COM3 where I let it go at other times. DUN insists on only searching the serial ports Windows sees. When it fails to see a modem, it lets me attempt to configure one manually, which I can do except that it only gives me the option of having it be on one of the system-visible com ports. I've even tried having the modem share an IRQ with one of the system-visible comm ports, but DUN still doesn't see it.

If you have any idea of what to do, or even if you can confirm that this really is as weird as it seems to me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Right now I'm staring at a possible system rebuild (from FDISK on up, with a few dozen applications to reinstall after I get Win98 back up)! If you can give me any better alternatives, or even corroborate that this is the only way to go, I'd be grateful. You can post a reply here, please, and/or email to tim@thinds.com.

Thanks!

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re: Question about 'Setting up Dial-Up Networking'
Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 9:27 pm
Posted by JmC (14166 messages posted)

When you used Scanreg did you back it up with a version of the registry dated prior to this problem? Is this Win98 or 98se?


On Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 8:29 pm, Timothy Hinds wrote:
>I have a question about Setting
>up Dial-Up Networking
:


>I'm out of things to try & I'd appreciate any fresh ideas anybody can give me. My
>wife's Windows 98 system (from Micron) reported a registry error yesterday, which
>SCANREG claimed to have fixed. However, since then, Dialup Networking does not see
>the U.S. Robotics 33.6K internal PnP fax modem that was working fine with DUN before.
> When I try to add a DUN connection, DUN doesn't see the modem, but instead searches
>for a modem on COM1 & COM2.


>I have tried all possible combinations of the following, including all of the at
>once:


>* remove the modem logically in Win98


>* remove the modem physically, reboot, reinstall after verifying its absence


>* remove the COM1 & COM2 ports from Win98


>* disable the serial ports in the BIOS


>* remove & reinstall the Dialup Adapter


>* uninstall & reinstall Dialup Networking itself


>I have verified that the modem works fine in another machine.


>I have tried different IRQ settings for the comm ports in Windows and tried enabling
>different combinations of them in the BIOS, trying to get them to go elsewhere than
>COM1 & COM2. I've succeeded in getting them to be COM5 & COM6, but then DUN only
>searches for a modem on COM5 & COM6, but not COM1 where I made the modem go, or COM3
>where I let it go at other times. DUN insists on only searching the serial ports
>Windows sees. When it fails to see a modem, it lets me attempt to configure one
>manually, which I can do except that it only gives me the option of having it be
>on one of the system-visible com ports. I've even tried having the modem share an
>IRQ with one of the system-visible comm ports, but DUN still doesn't see it.


>If you have any idea of what to do, or even if you can confirm that this really is
>as weird as it seems to me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Right now I'm staring at
>a possible system rebuild (from FDISK on up, with a few dozen applications to reinstall
>after I get Win98 back up)! If you can give me any better alternatives, or even corroborate
>that this is the only way to go, I'd be grateful. You can post a reply here, please,
>and/or email to tim@thinds.com.


>Thanks!


>
>
>

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re: Question about 'Setting up Dial-Up Networking'
Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Des Strathweight (17 messages posted)

You have gone to far.. 1. those 33k isa modems have a jumperless/ jumper on them, make it jumper..set modem jumpers to com2, irq3. 2 disenable seriel port 2 in bios.. 3. At post screen it will show ..port at 2f8...( just to confirm that it is working.. 4. in windows let it now find the modem and install. you may have to go to find new haredware, in fact it's a good idea to as it will clean up the mess you have done..( said nicely) 5 Go to dialup networking and reselect the modem that just got installed..against the connection you have... If you have to do more than that then the modem is buggad or your dialup networking has serious software error issues..


On Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 8:29 pm, Timothy Hinds wrote:
>I have a question about Setting
>up Dial-Up Networking
:


>I'm out of things to try & I'd appreciate any fresh ideas anybody can give me. My
>wife's Windows 98 system (from Micron) reported a registry error yesterday, which
>SCANREG claimed to have fixed. However, since then, Dialup Networking does not see
>the U.S. Robotics 33.6K internal PnP fax modem that was working fine with DUN before.
> When I try to add a DUN connection, DUN doesn't see the modem, but instead searches
>for a modem on COM1 & COM2.


>I have tried all possible combinations of the following, including all of the at
>once:


>* remove the modem logically in Win98


>* remove the modem physically, reboot, reinstall after verifying its absence


>* remove the COM1 & COM2 ports from Win98


>* disable the serial ports in the BIOS


>* remove & reinstall the Dialup Adapter


>* uninstall & reinstall Dialup Networking itself


>I have verified that the modem works fine in another machine.


>I have tried different IRQ settings for the comm ports in Windows and tried enabling
>different combinations of them in the BIOS, trying to get them to go elsewhere than
>COM1 & COM2. I've succeeded in getting them to be COM5 & COM6, but then DUN only
>searches for a modem on COM5 & COM6, but not COM1 where I made the modem go, or COM3
>where I let it go at other times. DUN insists on only searching the serial ports
>Windows sees. When it fails to see a modem, it lets me attempt to configure one
>manually, which I can do except that it only gives me the option of having it be
>on one of the system-visible com ports. I've even tried having the modem share an
>IRQ with one of the system-visible comm ports, but DUN still doesn't see it.


>If you have any idea of what to do, or even if you can confirm that this really is
>as weird as it seems to me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Right now I'm staring at
>a possible system rebuild (from FDISK on up, with a few dozen applications to reinstall
>after I get Win98 back up)! If you can give me any better alternatives, or even corroborate
>that this is the only way to go, I'd be grateful. You can post a reply here, please,
>and/or email to tim@thinds.com.


>Thanks!


>
>
>

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re: Question about 'Setting up Dial-Up Networking'
Monday, June 17, 2002 at 9:11 am
Posted by Timothy Hinds (4 messages posted)

My wife took the default (that occured after a timeout) of running SCANREG. She did not use any registry backup, so SCANREG acted on the then-current registry. It is Win98se. Thanks for any wisdom you can give! - Tim.


On Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 9:27 pm, FatalException wrote:
>When you used Scanreg did you back it up with a version of the registry dated prior
>to this problem? Is this Win98 or 98se?
>
>
>

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re: Question about 'Setting up Dial-Up Networking'
Monday, June 17, 2002 at 9:15 am
Posted by Timothy Hinds (4 messages posted)

Thanks for the note. Yes, I have gone a little crazy on this, trying everything I could think of. I considered diddling with the modem jumpers, but I bought it used and don't have the manual on it, so I figured I could really wreak havoc by changing jumpers blindly. I may still try it as a last resort, though. Anyway, I appreciate your taking the time to help. - Tim.


On Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 9:48 pm, Des Strathweight wrote:
>You have gone to far..
>1. those 33k isa modems have a jumperless/ jumper on them, make it jumper..set modem
>jumpers to com2, irq3.
>2 disenable seriel port 2 in bios..
>3. At post screen it will show ..port at 2f8...( just to confirm that it is working..
>
>4. in windows let it now find the modem and install. you may have to go to find new
>haredware, in fact it's a good idea to as it will clean up the mess you have done..(
>said nicely)
>5 Go to dialup networking and reselect the modem that just got installed..against
>the connection you have...
>If you have to do more than that then the modem is buggad or your dialup networking
>has serious software error issues..
>
>

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re: Question about 'Setting up Dial-Up Networking'
Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 9:34 pm
Posted by CinderBlock (55 messages posted)

If you are still having problems you can give this a try........ Click Start, goto find, and click files or folders....Search for telephon.ini.....If you find it then rename it to telephon.old or telephon.bad....Click on Start, Run, then type tapiini.exe, press Enter(You won't see much, maybe a quick flash)....Reboot.If that doesn't work...Remove DUA and Modem from DEVICE Manager..REBOOT, if prompted with new device found...Skip through it and manually install your modem....When all else fails, hit the registry****************BACK IT UP FIRST******************************Goto---> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\ Telephony\Providers Modify the value of the ProviderFilename0 value to TSP3216L.TSP save these changes...EXIT REGEDIT, and then restart your computer..... Click Start>Find>Click Files Or Folders..Search for telephon.ini(Again)If you do not find the Telephon.ini file--->click Start >Run type tapiini.exe , and then press ENTER and then restart..... If you do find the Telephon.ini file, right-click it, Rename it to telephon.old , and then press ENTER and then click Start >Run type tapiini.exe , and then press ENTER and then restart....If none of this helps...Nukethe OS and reinstall a fresh new copy........... GOOD LUCK


On Sunday, June 16, 2002 at 8:29 pm, Timothy Hinds wrote:
>I have a question about Setting
>up Dial-Up Networking
:


>I'm out of things to try & I'd appreciate any fresh ideas anybody can give me. My
>wife's Windows 98 system (from Micron) reported a registry error yesterday, which
>SCANREG claimed to have fixed. However, since then, Dialup Networking does not see
>the U.S. Robotics 33.6K internal PnP fax modem that was working fine with DUN before.
> When I try to add a DUN connection, DUN doesn't see the modem, but instead searches
>for a modem on COM1 & COM2.


>I have tried all possible combinations of the following, including all of the at
>once:


>* remove the modem logically in Win98


>* remove the modem physically, reboot, reinstall after verifying its absence


>* remove the COM1 & COM2 ports from Win98


>* disable the serial ports in the BIOS


>* remove & reinstall the Dialup Adapter


>* uninstall & reinstall Dialup Networking itself


>I have verified that the modem works fine in another machine.


>I have tried different IRQ settings for the comm ports in Windows and tried enabling
>different combinations of them in the BIOS, trying to get them to go elsewhere than
>COM1 & COM2. I've succeeded in getting them to be COM5 & COM6, but then DUN only
>searches for a modem on COM5 & COM6, but not COM1 where I made the modem go, or COM3
>where I let it go at other times. DUN insists on only searching the serial ports
>Windows sees. When it fails to see a modem, it lets me attempt to configure one
>manually, which I can do except that it only gives me the option of having it be
>on one of the system-visible com ports. I've even tried having the modem share an
>IRQ with one of the system-visible comm ports, but DUN still doesn't see it.


>If you have any idea of what to do, or even if you can confirm that this really is
>as weird as it seems to me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Right now I'm staring at
>a possible system rebuild (from FDISK on up, with a few dozen applications to reinstall
>after I get Win98 back up)! If you can give me any better alternatives, or even corroborate
>that this is the only way to go, I'd be grateful. You can post a reply here, please,
>and/or email to tim@thinds.com.


>Thanks!


>
>
>

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re: Question about 'Setting up Dial-Up Networking'
Wednesday, July 3, 2002 at 8:32 am
Posted by Timothy Hinds (4 messages posted)

CinderBlock, It worked! Running tapiini.exe cleared up the whole problem I was having with Dial-up Networking not seeing my modems under Windows 98. Once I ran it, DUN behaved perfectly. I really appreciate your taking the time to give me the hint. How did you know about tapiini.exe? Again, thank you very much for the help!


On Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 9:34 pm, CinderBlock wrote:
>If you are still having problems you can give this a try........ Click Start, goto
>find, and click files or folders....Search for telephon.ini.....If you find it then
>rename it to telephon.old or telephon.bad....Click on Start, Run, then type tapiini.exe,
>press Enter(You won't see much, maybe a quick flash)....Reboot.If that doesn't work...Remove
>DUA and Modem from DEVICE Manager..REBOOT, if prompted with new device found...Skip
>through it and manually install your modem....When all else fails, hit the registry****************BACK
>IT UP FIRST******************************Goto---> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current
>Version\ Telephony\Providers Modify the value of the ProviderFilename0 value to TSP3216L.TSP
>save these changes...EXIT REGEDIT, and then restart your computer..... Click Start>Find>Click
>Files Or Folders..Search for telephon.ini(Again)If you do not find the Telephon.ini
>file--->click Start >Run type tapiini.exe , and then press ENTER and then restart.....
>If you do find the Telephon.ini file, right-click it, Rename it to telephon.old ,
>and then press ENTER and then click Start >Run type tapiini.exe , and then press
>ENTER and then restart....If none of this helps...Nukethe OS and reinstall a fresh
>new copy...........
>
>
>GOOD LUCK
>
>
>

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