My computer display "Illegal operation" from time to time when i run an application in office 2000 and in some applications.

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That's just one of the fun things about using Windows. It doesn't mean you or the 
app.  actually did something illegal, just in case you wonder. he he

If you're having ongoing problems with specific errors, post the entire error message. 
Otherwise just rebooting usually takes care of it. Be sure to run scan disk and defrag 
regularly and clear out temp internet files.

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That's what you get for using outdated versions of windows. I recommend upgrading to Windows 2000 or XP. Both of these offer more stability.


On Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 5:37 pm, Anthony Gonzales wrote:
>My computer display "Illegal operation" from time to time when i run an application
>in office 2000 and in some applications.
>
>

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Antoni, GET A LIFE!!!! Outdated windows is NOT the reason for these messages. Do your research before opening your mouth. One learns more from listening than from speaking.


On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 1:13 pm, Antoni Bergen wrote:
>That's what you get for using outdated versions of windows. I recommend upgrading
>to Windows 2000 or XP. Both of these offer more stability.
>
>

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I currently hold A+, Network+, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, and MCDBA. Trust me, I've done my research. Windows 98 was famous for alot of illegal operation messages. You know what purpose they served? None. But don't worry, since win 98 there have been a few advances in computer software. Advances which make annoyances like unnecessary "illegal operation" errors as obsolete as windows 98 itself. I stand by my recommondation to ditch the antiquated OS and join me and miilions of others in the 21st century.


On Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:51 pm, Know Better wrote:
>Antoni, GET A LIFE!!!! Outdated windows is NOT the reason for these messages. Do
>your research before opening your mouth. One learns more from listening than from
>speaking.
>
>

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Have I been misinformed? I was under the impression that 90% of illegal operation messages were caused by faulty memory?


On Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 5:37 pm, Anthony Gonzales wrote:
>My computer display "Illegal operation" from time to time when i run an application
>in office 2000 and in some applications.
>
>

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Yes. If faulty memory was the root cause of these errors, upgrading the OS would have no effect. The faxt is that upgrading the OS does have an effect. Faulty memory is not nearly as common as the illegal ops errors commonly seen in windows 98 and windows ME.


On Monday, May 12, 2003 at 9:59 am, Brian Heward wrote:
>Have I been misinformed? I was under the impression that 90% of illegal operation
>messages were caused by faulty memory?
>
>

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So let's say it is faulty memory, does that mean I have to buy new memory.


On Monday, July 28, 2003 at 4:09 pm, Xinsheng wrote:
>Yes. If faulty memory was the root cause of these errors, upgrading the OS would
>have no effect. The faxt is that upgrading the OS does have an effect. Faulty memory
>is not nearly as common as the illegal ops errors commonly seen in windows 98 and
>windows ME.
>
>

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While trying to run a home based business, the illegal operation message makes me shut down and lose ongoing business transactions while online.. so, which software would you recommend? I currently have Windows 98SE. thanks!


On Tuesday, January 21, 2003 at 9:22 am, Antoni Bergen wrote:
>I currently hold A+, Network+, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, and MCDBA. Trust me, I've done my
>research. Windows 98 was famous for alot of illegal operation messages. You know
>what purpose they served? None. But don't worry, since win 98 there have been a few
>advances in computer software. Advances which make annoyances like unnecessary "illegal
>operation" errors as obsolete as windows 98 itself. I stand by my recommondation
>to ditch the antiquated OS and join me and miilions of others in the 21st century.
>
> Which program do you recommend I upgrade to? I have Windows 98SE. I am tired of rebooting... have a business to run. thanks!

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I have found that windows 2000 offers the most stability so that would be my first choice. Windows XP Professional would be the next best thing. If you are not thoroughly computer literate, XP is probably the way to go as it has amazing help menus and many functions are automated.


On Wednesday, September 17, 2003 at 2:39 pm, laurie wrote:
>While trying to run a home based business, the illegal operation message makes me
>shut down and lose ongoing business transactions while online.. so, which software
>would you recommend? I currently have Windows 98SE.
>thanks!
>
>

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Any ideas why I keep gettig the EXPLORER illegal operation message, every time I try to open an icon on my desktop. The following is a copy from the details box. Any help would be gratefully received. I am only a novice with the computer, so as simple an answer as possible would be appreciated. Many Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------- EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in module KERNEL32.DLL at 01bf:bff842b8. Registers: EAX=10039fe0 CS=01bf EIP=bff842b8 EFLGS=00010206 EBX=02600000 SS=01c7 ESP=018fec40 EBP=018fec44 ECX=0000000a DS=01c7 ESI=bff842b1 FS=6d4f EDX=062a003c ES=01c7 EDI=00000000 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 8b 10 89 10 a1 10 9d fc bf 50 e8 ed fe fe ff ff Stack dump: bff842b1 018fec7c 02605039 10039fe0 00000001 02607964 00000001 02604b7b 02604c3d 02600000 00000001 00000000 00000000 02600000 81a11268 018fee44 ==================================


On Monday, May 12, 2003 at 9:59 am, Brian Heward wrote:
>Have I been misinformed? I was under the impression that 90% of illegal operation
>messages were caused by faulty memory?
>
>

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Hi, good tips from all. However, if Explorer is giving you problems, I would be also checking for possible viruses. Try using an online virus scan like www.pandasoftware.com or www.bitdefender.com which are free to use.


On Monday, December 8, 2003 at 5:16 am, Michael Finch wrote:
>Any ideas why I keep gettig the EXPLORER illegal operation message, every time I
>try to open an icon on my desktop. The following is a copy from the details box.
>
>Any help would be gratefully received.
>I am only a novice with the computer, so as simple an answer as possible would be
>appreciated.
>
>Many Thanks
>----------------------------------------------------------
>EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
>module KERNEL32.DLL at 01bf:bff842b8.
>Registers:
>EAX=10039fe0 CS=01bf EIP=bff842b8 EFLGS=00010206
>EBX=02600000 SS=01c7 ESP=018fec40 EBP=018fec44
>ECX=0000000a DS=01c7 ESI=bff842b1 FS=6d4f
>EDX=062a003c ES=01c7 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
>Bytes at CS:EIP:
>8b 10 89 10 a1 10 9d fc bf 50 e8 ed fe fe ff ff
>Stack dump:
>bff842b1 018fec7c 02605039 10039fe0 00000001 02607964 00000001 02604b7b 02604c3d
>02600000 00000001 00000000 00000000 02600000 81a11268 018fee44
>==================================
>
>
>
>
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Ok, I've read all your responses and I have tried most of the above suggestions with no luck. I deleted all temp files and attempted to run scan disk, but the scan kept getting intterupted. I also attempted to update Windows by using my Windows 98 2nd Edition CD, with no success as well. I can not access the Internet as all of my browser give me this message then close out. Please help, I am running out of options. Should I try a different W98 CD? I don't have access to any other OS cds. Thank you and please write back asap as I use my pc for work and my work is backing up. Thanks again!


On Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 9:46 am, ladygnome wrote:
>
>Hi, good tips from all. However, if Explorer is giving you problems, I would be
>also checking for possible viruses. Try using an online virus scan like www.pandasoftware.com
>or www.bitdefender.com which are free to use.
>

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I'm thinking you may have a virus and it would be great if you can reobtain access to the internet. I would start by deleting all the .tmp files in c:\windows\temp directory and all files in c:\windows\temporary internet files (tempor~1) directory. This may remove some harmful things. Generally, if you are not able to run scandisk, then some things are loading in the background and they must be halted before you can proceed. Simulataneously using ALT CTL and DEL keys, press them together once. This brings up Task Manager. If using Windows 98, here you would end all tasks EXCEPT explorer and systray - these are very important to keep running or you will crash. Alternately, you could go into SAFE MODE (F8) and run scandisk through there as Safe Mode doesn't load all the TSR's. If you indeed have a virus, then don't reboot if you can help it. Stop the tasks as noted above as your next step. Then try to reinstall Internet Explorer. Do this by going to the control panel and selecting Add/Remove programs, then MS Internet Explorer. When you select removing the program, it offers you a repair option. Try repairing the program. Sometimes this will allow you to get on the internet and get yourself to a virus scan site. I recommend heading to one of these places and selecting online scan. www.bitdefender.com or www.pandasoftware.com or www.ravantivirus.com. Run a full scan of your drive and don't do anything else on your computer until it is complete. If it won't run, head to another one and try it. Once you figure out which virus, if the online scan doesn't delete, search the internet for a fix related to that specific virus identified and download it and run it. Hope you get to this stage, of course, the alternative is reformatting and reinstalling windows. Good luck!


On Friday, December 26, 2003 at 11:59 am, Cristina wrote:
>Ok, I've read all your responses and I have tried most of the above suggestions with
>no luck. I deleted all temp files and attempted to run scan disk, but the scan kept
>getting intterupted. I also attempted to update Windows by using my Windows 98 2nd
>Edition CD, with no success as well. I can not access the Internet as all of my
>browser give me this message then close out. Please help, I am running out of options.
> Should I try a different W98 CD? I don't have access to any other OS cds. Thank
>you and please write back asap as I use my pc for work and my work is backing up.
>Thanks again!
>
>

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Thanks, but how can I get to these sites if I can not connect to the internet from this pc? Do I have another option? Can I use Norton or is there a file I can download from another pc and install into the infected pc?


On Friday, December 26, 2003 at 11:59 am, Cristina wrote:
>Ok, I've read all your responses and I have tried most of the above suggestions with
>no luck. I deleted all temp files and attempted to run scan disk, but the scan kept
>getting intterupted. I also attempted to update Windows by using my Windows 98 2nd
>Edition CD, with no success as well. I can not access the Internet as all of my
>browser give me this message then close out. Please help, I am running out of options.
> Should I try a different W98 CD? I don't have access to any other OS cds. Thank
>you and please write back asap as I use my pc for work and my work is backing up.
>Thanks again!
>
>

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I don't know how I could of gotten a virus if I haven't connected to the internet. This whole thing started when I installed a network card to my pc in order to connect to the internet through a cable modem. I was originally connecting through a phone line using aol, but i haven't even been able to connect through the phone line either. My network card is now being recognized, but the only problem I have is this illegal operation that keeps closing anything I open even aol. I can not open any browser long enough to connect. Isn't the only to get a virus by opening an email with a virus? Thanks for your assistance, please help!


On Saturday, December 27, 2003 at 11:37 am, ladygnome wrote:
>I'm thinking you may have a virus and it would be great if you can reobtain access
>to the internet.
>I would start by deleting all the .tmp files in c:\windows\temp directory and all
>files in c:\windows\temporary internet files (tempor~1) directory. This may remove
>some harmful things.
>
>Generally, if you are not able to run scandisk, then some things are loading in the
>background and they must be halted before you can proceed. Simulataneously using
>ALT CTL and DEL keys, press them together once. This brings up Task Manager. If
>using Windows 98, here you would end all tasks EXCEPT explorer and systray - these
>are very important to keep running or you will crash. Alternately, you could go
>into SAFE MODE (F8) and run scandisk through there as Safe Mode doesn't load all
>the TSR's. If you indeed have a virus, then don't reboot if you can help it. Stop
>the tasks as noted above as your next step. Then try to reinstall Internet Explorer.
> Do this by going to the control panel and selecting Add/Remove programs, then MS
>Internet Explorer. When you select removing the program, it offers you a repair
>option. Try repairing the program. Sometimes this will allow you to get on the
>internet and get yourself to a virus scan site. I recommend heading to one of these
>places and selecting online scan. www.bitdefender.com or www.pandasoftware.com or
>www.ravantivirus.com. Run a full scan of your drive and don't do anything else on
>your computer until it is complete. If it won't run, head to another one and try
>it. Once you figure out which virus, if the online scan doesn't delete, search the
>internet for a fix related to that specific virus identified and download it and
>run it.
>
>Hope you get to this stage, of course, the alternative is reformatting and reinstalling
>windows. Good luck!
>
>

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Hi, Well you are shedding more light on the situation. Keep in mind that your computer could have a virus contracted from software if not from the internet. But it would be less likely. I take it your network card is showing up with no indications of problems in the devices now (control panel). Now if you are having illegal operation messages when you open everything that is definitely a problem. If it only happens when you are using internet related programs then that is a specific problem. If it Illegal operations could mean a number of things. Also, if you can let me know if it says invalid page fault in a specific thing like kernel32.dll or anything else that would help. Also, what version of Internet Explorer (or Netscape) and any service packs you may have installed. Considering restoring or reinstalling. Take note of any software programs you may have recently installed. I would suggest going to add/remove programs and uninstalling these things in case something is the cause of your problems. Think about each step you took and what actually caused the problem. Maybe it was the incorrect driver you installed for your network card? Maybe your antivirus software or firewall software is loaded and may just need to be turned off for you to continue. Check things out and see what you can come up with. Some people say it can have to do with your printer/printer driver and an incompatibility. Even if you are not using it at the time, printer drivers can cause all sorts of weird problems. That's something you may want to look into. You could try a different network card and see if it fixes the problem! Good luck to you!


On Saturday, December 27, 2003 at 6:24 pm, Cristina wrote:
>I don't know how I could of gotten a virus if I haven't connected to the internet.
> This whole thing started when I installed a network card to my pc in order to connect
>to the internet through a cable modem. I was originally connecting through a phone
>line using aol, but i haven't even been able to connect through the phone line either.
> My network card is now being recognized, but the only problem I have is this illegal
>operation that keeps closing anything I open even aol. I can not open any browser
>long enough to connect. Isn't the only to get a virus by opening an email with a
>virus? Thanks for your assistance, please help!
>

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Have you tried moving the NIC (Network card) to another slot? Be sure to remove it from the control panel "system" icon before you do so. Also, you might just want to yank one of your Memory SIMMs and try again. If you can boot dos by using the F8 key during the boot and get the C: drive, you can goto the Windows folder (directory) then modify your system.ini file: look for the shell=explorer.exe change the "explorer.exe" to "winfile.exe". Reboot the PC, if it starts fine (although looks like Windows 3.11) I'd say your memory is ok. Dont' forget to change the shell= line back to explorer.exe before you move on to other testing. Note: I have seen a "semi-faulty" CPU cause this error.


On Saturday, December 27, 2003 at 6:15 pm, Cristina wrote:
>
>
>Thanks, but how can I get to these sites if I can not connect to the internet from
>this pc? Do I have another option? Can I use Norton or is there a file I can download
>from another pc and install into the infected pc?
>
>

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I hate to join the "cop-out" answer bandwagon of upgrading to Windows 2000 or XP, but Antoni is right. 2000 and XP is much more stable than this, and you can spend all day trying to troubleshoot the numerous Illegal Operations that can happen in Windows 9x, or you could spend a bit of cash, upgrade, and rest easy as the chances of Illegal Operations happening (or its equivalent in 2K/XP: " has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.") is cut down by almost 90%. Also, Microsoft no longer supports Windows 98. Their support for Windows 98 ended two months ago (December 2003), and newer programs, games, and whatnot will not be compatible with Windows 98.


On Sunday, January 4, 2004 at 5:37 pm, Michael wrote:
>Have you tried moving the NIC (Network card) to another slot? Be sure to remove it
>from the control panel "system" icon before you do so.
>Also, you might just want to yank one of your Memory SIMMs and try again.
>If you can boot dos by using the F8 key during the boot and get the C: drive, you
>can goto the Windows folder (directory) then modify your system.ini file: look for
>the shell=explorer.exe change the "explorer.exe" to "winfile.exe". Reboot the PC,
>if it starts fine (although looks like Windows 3.11) I'd say your memory is ok. Dont'
>forget to change the shell= line back to explorer.exe before you move on to other
>testing.
>Note: I have seen a "semi-faulty" CPU cause this error.
>

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Ditch windows 98 cos i have dual booted 98 and XP (so that i can still run my old dos games). Although my computer works perfectly on XP, win 98 gives me like 30 illegal operations when i try to shut down or do pretty much anything on it. I would suggest either format your windows 98 drive or switch to XP, as theres something gone messed up in the windows folder (and its not worth the hassle to find out what). Viruses do not cause the illegal operation, as i have ran virus scans etc when i kept getting those messages and nothing was found (even on norton 2004). Windows 98 also has a horrid support for systems with 512MB ram or higher and you will just get constant memory leaks with that too (going by experiance on my Advent 3316).


On Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at 10:13 am, Brandon Chapman wrote:
>I hate to join the "cop-out" answer bandwagon of upgrading to Windows 2000 or XP,
>but Antoni is right. 2000 and XP is much more stable than this, and you can spend
>all day trying to troubleshoot the numerous Illegal Operations that can happen in
>Windows 9x, or you could spend a bit of cash, upgrade, and rest easy as the chances
>of Illegal Operations happening (or its equivalent in 2K/XP: " has
>encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.")
>is cut down by almost 90%.
>
>Also, Microsoft no longer supports Windows 98. Their support for Windows 98 ended
>two months ago (December 2003), and newer programs, games, and whatnot will not be
>compatible with Windows 98.
>
>
>On Sunday, January 4, 2004 at 5:37 pm, Michael wrote:
>>Have you tried moving the NIC (Network card) to another slot? Be sure to remove
>it
>>from the control panel "system" icon before you do so.
>>Also, you might just want to yank one of your Memory SIMMs and try again.
>>If you can boot dos by using the F8 key during the boot and get the C: drive, you
>>can goto the Windows folder (directory) then modify your system.ini file: look for
>>the shell=explorer.exe change the "explorer.exe" to "winfile.exe". Reboot the PC,
>>if it starts fine (although looks like Windows 3.11) I'd say your memory is ok.
>Dont'
>>forget to change the shell= line back to explorer.exe before you move on to other
>>testing.
>>Note: I have seen a "semi-faulty" CPU cause this error.
>>

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Ok, can anyone help me. Sometimes off and on when i open a folder or my computer it gives this error below. Iv updated internet explorer, gone back to previous versions to see if it was something i could fix like that. And reinstalling IE and it still gives me that. I deleted internet explorer entirely from the whole computer and i still get the same error. Thats where i am now. I dont have internet explorer on the computer. But i still get the error below saying "illegal operation explorer.exe" and these are the detail. A response to this would be great on how to fix this. Thank you EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in module NJYJCXSP.DLL at 017f:00cd6d49. Registers: EAX=00cd6d49 CS=017f EIP=00cd6d49 EFLGS=00010a82 EBX=81eb5ff4 SS=0187 ESP=00d3bdd0 EBP=00d3bf94 ECX=c180ea50 DS=0187 ESI=00cd0000 FS=3977 EDX=c003011c ES=0187 EDI=00000000 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Stack dump: bff7ddd6 00cd0000 00000001 00000000 00000000 00cd0000 81eb5ff4 81eb5fb0 81ea2d68 81ea2d7c c180ea50 8e800598 0d680002 16a70000 176f09e6 8e200000

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Can you reinstall IE6 without uninstalling it first? And if not, how do you get back to the internet to install.?


On Saturday, December 27, 2003 at 6:24 pm, Cristina wrote:
>I don't know how I could of gotten a virus if I haven't connected to the internet.
> This whole thing started when I installed a network card to my pc in order to connect
>to the internet through a cable modem. I was originally connecting through a phone
>line using aol, but i haven't even been able to connect through the phone line either.
> My network card is now being recognized, but the only problem I have is this illegal
>operation that keeps closing anything I open even aol. I can not open any browser
>long enough to connect. Isn't the only to get a virus by opening an email with a
>virus? Thanks for your assistance, please help!
>

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