Okay, this is starting to get to me.  Normally, I don’t have these type of issues 
and I can repair things quickly, but I have never run into anything like this.

Long story made short:
* Windows XP crashed horribly during regular usage (I was simply on IE).
* Couldn’t find my original CD for XP, and my copy of it isn’t working for some reason. 
 I also can’t use the CD’s that came with my HP and Compaq.  Grr... So I couldn’t 
use the repair features.
* I hid the partition and tried to install 98se on another.  It keeps detecting the 
XP OS somehow even when hidden.  
* When 98 setup does scandisk, it prepares to install the OS and then crashes.  I 
get the “Standard mode: Fault outside of MS-DOS Extender” error.  (Described in more 
detail below).
* I unplugged the hard drive (with XP hidden) where I was installing 98SE to.  I 
left my other drive on only and then tried to install 98SE a new empty partition.
* I still get the “Standard mode” error! Nothing I do can clear it up!  I formatted 
the MBR and nothing still!  I install from 98SE on CD or with the bin files on my 
PC and still the same error!
* I had tried DOS network boot disks so I can copy the data from another PC over 
our small in house network, but no matter what settings I try, I cannot get the network 
boot disks to connect to the network!
(http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/  :: Does not work at all for me.)
(http://www.softnews.ro/public/cat/13/4/13-4-1.shtml   ::  Works, but will not connect 
to network.)
* I cannot get passed this error, please help!
* Windows Knowledge Base doesn’t help me much at all.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;87239&

Goal:
Recover Data! I have data on a lot of partitioned drives.  All are FAT32 with the 
exception of the hidden NFTS with XP.  I am trying to do anything get the data off 
these drives.  I have a TON of archived info I need (which I will put on CD for now 
on!).

Computer Specifications:
* Intel Pentium III  1000MHz
* 256 RAM
* Two Hard Drives ~ 20Gigs each

Detailed Errors:
* (On trying to install Win 98SE)
Standard mode: Fault outside of MS-DOS Extender
(Can’t get past comp. hang up.  Can’t even boot to disk. I would give you all the 
info here, but after the bios displays all it’s data, the system hangs now.)

* Computer now hangs on boot up randomly and I have no idea what the cause is.

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with the xp disk unpluged run fdisk on the drive you wish to install 9x on. (9x must be installed at the beging of the disk cos its a bit lame) so delete all partitions on the second drive. format the disk and then install 98. another way to get your data back is just to bung the drive into one of your other pc's and copy it off. as for the other problems - iam not sure :(


On Monday, August 11, 2003 at 6:40 am, Esteban wrote:

>Okay, this is starting to get to me.  Normally, I don’t have these type of 
issues 
>and I can repair things quickly, but I have never run into anything like this.
>
>Long story made short:
>* Windows XP crashed horribly during regular usage (I was simply on IE).
>* Couldn’t find my original CD for XP, and my copy of it isn’t working 
for some reason. 
> I also can’t use the CD’s that came with my HP and Compaq.  Grr... 
So I couldn’t 
>use the repair features.
>* I hid the partition and tried to install 98se on another.  It keeps detecting 
the 
>XP OS somehow even when hidden.  
>* When 98 setup does scandisk, it prepares to install the OS and then crashes.  
I 
>get the “Standard mode: Fault outside of MS-DOS Extender” error.  (Described 
in more 
>detail below).
>* I unplugged the hard drive (with XP hidden) where I was installing 98SE to.  I 
>left my other drive on only and then tried to install 98SE a new empty partition.
>* I still get the “Standard mode” error! Nothing I do can clear it up! 
 I formatted 
>the MBR and nothing still!  I install from 98SE on CD or with the bin files on my 
>PC and still the same error!
>* I had tried DOS network boot disks so I can copy the data from another PC over 
>our small in house network, but no matter what settings I try, I cannot get the 
network 
>boot disks to connect to the network!
>(http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/  :: Does not work at all for me.)
>(http://www.softnews.ro/public/cat/13/4/13-4-1.shtml   ::  Works, but will not connect 
>to network.)
>* I cannot get passed this error, please help!
>* Windows Knowledge Base doesn’t help me much at all.
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;87239&
>
>Goal:
>Recover Data! I have data on a lot of partitioned drives.  All are FAT32 with the 
>exception of the hidden NFTS with XP.  I am trying to do anything get the data off 
>these drives.  I have a TON of archived info I need (which I will put on CD for 
now 
>on!).
>
>Computer Specifications:
>* Intel Pentium III  1000MHz
>* 256 RAM
>* Two Hard Drives ~ 20Gigs each
>
>Detailed Errors:
>* (On trying to install Win 98SE)
>Standard mode: Fault outside of MS-DOS Extender
>(Can’t get past comp. hang up.  Can’t even boot to disk. I would give 
you all the 
>info here, but after the bios displays all it’s data, the system hangs now.)
>
>* Computer now hangs on boot up randomly and I have no idea what the cause is.

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I haven’t been able to spend time fixing this computer as I wanted.  I never expected 
this much of a mess.

Here is the latest. If you all could help, I would be ever so grateful.

09/09/03
I removed and/or unplugged my two hard drives and I installed a freshly formatted 
and zeroed out hard drive.  Upon my attempt to install of Windows 98SE, I once again 
received the evil error: “Standard mode: Fault outside of MS-DOS Extender”

I realize there is a windows support article on this, but they really don’t offer 
any aid at all.  I googled everyone I could find with this problem and no one has 
seemed to resolve it.

I CAN boot up into DOS with bootdisks, however upon installation of windows via CD 
boot, boot disk boot, or setup from my hard drive, I only run into the SAME error.

Someone mentioned that maybe I should try /M switches (device=himem.sys /testmem:on 
/M:1).  The only problem with this is that I NEVER had to do this in the past, therefore, 
I should NOT have to do it now.  I would rather find what is wrong and FIX it!

When I get the chance, I am going to try two things:
* Install any latest patches with my BIOS
* Remove my RAM and replace it with RAM that I KNOW works just to verify my RAM didn’t 
go bad somehow.

To be honest, I do not think this will solve the problem.  Since the hard drive is 
clean, that means this isn’t a master boot record problem, a partition record problem, 
or anything to do with the HD’s problem!

Any thoughts?  Thanks you all!

Esteban Francisco

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I had the same problem, and after visiting the Microsoft website, I replaced my ram with a known good one, and it came right up. Good luck


On Tuesday, September 9, 2003 at 7:02 pm, Esteban wrote:
>
>I haven’t been able to spend time fixing this computer as I wanted. I never expected
>this much of a mess.
>
>Here is the latest. If you all could help, I would be ever so grateful.
>
>09/09/03
>I removed and/or unplugged my two hard drives and I installed a freshly formatted
>and zeroed out hard drive. Upon my attempt to install of Windows 98SE, I once again
>received the evil error: “Standard mode: Fault outside of MS-DOS Extender”
>
>I realize there is a windows support article on this, but they really don’t offer
>any aid at all. I googled everyone I could find with this problem and no one has
>seemed to resolve it.
>
>I CAN boot up into DOS with bootdisks, however upon installation of windows via CD
>boot, boot disk boot, or setup from my hard drive, I only run into the SAME error.
>
>Someone mentioned that maybe I should try /M switches (device=himem.sys /testmem:on
>/M:1). The only problem with this is that I NEVER had to do this in the past, therefore,
>I should NOT have to do it now. I would rather find what is wrong and FIX it!
>
>When I get the chance, I am going to try two things:
>* Install any latest patches with my BIOS
>* Remove my RAM and replace it with RAM that I KNOW works just to verify my RAM didn’t
>go bad somehow.
>
>To be honest, I do not think this will solve the problem. Since the hard drive is
>clean, that means this isn’t a master boot record problem, a partition record problem,
>or anything to do with the HD’s problem!
>
>Any thoughts? Thanks you all!
>
>Esteban Francisco

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I have the same error , and i unplugged my SD-Ram and plugged again and it worked fine now :)

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