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Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 11:38 am
Posted by Ron
(895 messages posted)
There are still a few days left to download Microsoft support for Windows 95, 98
and 98SE. If you intend to maintain a machine with these Operating Systems you may
need to reinstall them at some point. If so, you may want to have a copy of all the
upgrades, patches, and Service Packs handy. Here's a link that explains how to find
the download catalogs and download them to a CD or a hard drive where they would
be available for future use, "How to Save Your Win98 (And Other) Updates Offline"
by Fred Langa:
http://www.langa.com/help.htm
Regards,
Ron
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re: Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Carl D
(4179 messages posted)
You can get all the Windows 98 updates from here: http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp?corporate=true As
far as I know Microsoft won't be removing these anytime soon... in fact, I've heard
they may be bowing to pressure and releasing all the Windows 98 updates on a CD eventually
- either direct from MS and/or those free CD's you always get with computer magazines
these days... MS have also said they may still release future security updates
depending on how serious the threats are deemed to be (for this read Internet
Explorer mainly... :) Carl
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re: Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Helen~
(2626 messages posted)
Hi Carl,
I just looked at your Microsoft link and found 58 critical updates and one download.
I haven't the vaguest idea what if any I should have. Also I'm afraid they might
goof up my system which is running well. I have 98se and IE 6.0. I thought I had
kept up to date so imagine my dismay! I guess
I'm asking your advice on what to do. Btw, I really like your colorful signature.
:o) Helen
On Friday, December 19, 2003 at 1:06 pm, Carl D wrote:
>You can get all the Windows 98 updates from here:http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp?corporate=true As
>far as I know Microsoft won't be removing these anytime soon... in fact, I've heard
>they may be bowing to pressure and releasing all the Windows 98 updates on a CD
eventually
>- either direct from MS and/or those free CD's you always get with computer magazines
>these days... MS have also said they may still release future security updates
>depending on how serious the threats are deemed to be (for this read Internet
>Explorer mainly... :) Ccolor="#ffcc00">arl
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re: Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Carl D
(4179 messages posted)
Hi Helen, you've probably got most of those updates installed right now, the trouble
with Windows 98 (which I haven't used for a while actually - I'm on XP) is that the
average home user doesn't need a lot of the critical updates (network updates etc.) The
last time I installed 98 I installed all the updates I already had here (from computer
magazine CD's) - IE6, Media Player 9, DirectX9 etc. then I went to Windows Update
and let it scan for what I needed, took a note of those updates, let Windows Update
install them then I went straight to the Corporate site and selected the same updates
and downloaded them to my hard drive then burnt them to CD for future use. Obviously,
you probably don't feel like formatting and reinstalling 98 just to find out which
ones you need :) Mind you, if you have cable or ADSL internet then you could probably
just download the lot and save them, I don't think it would hurt if you install updates
you don't really need... in fact, Windows may flash up a message saying those updates
are not needed... I'm not sure. If you installed all your updates from Windows
Update the other thing you can do is go there - that's the "normal" Windows Update
- and select the option for "Show Installation History" which will give you a list
of all the updates you've installed - but it will only show you the ones you've installed
from Windows Update, if you've installed any updates from computer mag CD's etc.
(as I've mentioned above) it won't show those... Keep an eye out though... as I
said in my post above, I"ve heard MS are thinking about releasing all of the updates
for 98 on a CD soon... mainly for the benefit of dialup users who don't want to spend
hours downloading updates again after formatting and reinstalling. Carl
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re: Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Helen~
(2626 messages posted)
Hi Carl,
Thanks for the thorough explanation. Who, me format...lol. I wouldn't know where
to start. I probably do have the updates that I need, but printed out your reply
for future reference. I hope that if the Update CD becomes available you will let
us know. I have gone to the site and let it scan
my computer then downloaded, but , after reading
posts from others, I'm always worried that my little laptop will crash someday and
have to go in to
the shop. Thanks for your help and best wishes for
the holidays. :o) Helen
On Friday, December 19, 2003 at 6:07 pm, Carl D wrote:
>Hi Helen, you've probably got most of those updates installed right now, the trouble
>with Windows 98 (which I haven't used for a while actually - I'm on XP) is that
the
>average home user doesn't need a lot of the critical updates (network updates etc.)The
>last time I installed 98 I installed all the updates I already had here (from computer
>magazine CD's) - IE6, Media Player 9, DirectX9 etc. then I went to Windows Update
>and let it scan for what I needed, took a note of those updates, let Windows Update
>install them then I went straight to the Corporate site and selected the same updates
>and downloaded them to my hard drive then burnt them to CD for future use. Obviously,
>you probably don't feel like formatting and reinstalling 98 just to find out which
>ones you need :) Mind you, if you have cable or ADSL internet then you could probably
>just download the lot and save them, I don't think it would hurt if you install
updates
>you don't really need... in fact, Windows may flash up a message saying those updates
>are not needed... I'm not sure. If you installed all your updates from Windows
>Update the other thing you can do is go there - that's the "normal" Windows Update
>- and select the option for "Show Installation History" which will give you a list
>of all the updates you've installed - but it will only show you the ones you've
installed
>from Windows Update, if you've installed any updates from computer mag CD's etc.
>(as I've mentioned above) it won't show those... Keep an eye out though... as
I
>said in my post above, I"ve heard MS are thinking about releasing all of the updates
>for 98 on a CD soon... mainly for the benefit of dialup users who don't want to
spend
>hours downloading updates again after formatting and reinstalling. color="#cc0000">Carsize="6" color="#3366ff">l
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re: Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Gerry Kroll
(1986 messages posted)
As Carl says, you've probably got all the patches you need.
What you have to do with the corporate list is separate the patches into two lists,
one for Windows and the other for Internet Explorer. Both lists should be sorted
into descending order by KB article number.
Start at the top of each list, and get the details from the Knowledge Base. Strike
out all older patches that are replaced by the patch you're looking at. Repeat this
process with all patches that haven't been struck out.
The remaining patches (not struck out) are the ones you need.
On Friday, December 19, 2003 at 2:13 pm, Helen~ wrote:
>Hi Carl,
>I just looked at your Microsoft link and found 58 critical updates and one download.
>I haven't the vaguest idea what if any I should have. Also I'm afraid they might
>goof up my system which is running well. I have 98se and IE 6.0. I thought I had
>kept up to date so imagine my dismay! I guess
>I'm asking your advice on what to do. Btw, I really like your colorful signature.
>:o) Helen
>
>
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re: Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Carl D
(4179 messages posted)
OK Helen, Happy Holidays! :) Carl
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re: Patches, Upgrades, and Service Packs
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Helen~
(2626 messages posted)
Hi Gerry,
Thanks for the additional information. You are all so helpful and generous with your
knowledge. Merry Christmas :o) Helen
On Friday, December 19, 2003 at 6:45 pm, Gerry Kroll wrote:
>As Carl says, you've probably got all the patches you need.
>
>What you have to do with the corporate list is separate the patches into two lists,
>one for Windows and the other for Internet Explorer. Both lists should be sorted
>into descending order by KB article number.
>
>Start at the top of each list, and get the details from the Knowledge Base. Strike
>out all older patches that are replaced by the patch you're looking at. Repeat
this
>process with all patches that haven't been struck out.
>
>The remaining patches (not struck out) are the ones you need.
>
>
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