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OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
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OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
Monday, December 29, 2003 at 8:10 pm Posted by Donald Cook
(48 messages posted)
OK, thanks Rick.
You said something I suppose I haven't given sufficient attention to: the possibility
that I can repair the situation.
People tell me that Windows needs to be reinstalled every now and then, but if I
can avoid that, I will. Reinstalling Win98, then all my apps and upgrading each one
is about a sixteen hour job.
So where can I find how to troubleshoot the following?
1. Rundll32.exe & Windows Explorer each report this from time to time in an error
box: This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
If the problem persists, contact the program purveyor. Ironic, isn't it?
2. General instability resulting in closing programs spontaneously.
Thanks.
Don.
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re: OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
Monday, December 29, 2003 at 9:06 pm Posted by Dale
(700 messages posted)
Thats happened to me in the past, I just went on the net and grabbed a new copy of
that .dll....yours is most likely corrupted, you can also do this, Start - run -
type in DRWATSON, puts and icon by your clock, next .dll error click 'Details' it
will show you the program instead of all those numbers. But most likely a corrupt
.dll
On Monday, December 29, 2003 at 8:10 pm, Donald Cook wrote:
>OK, thanks Rick.
>
>You said something I suppose I haven't given sufficient attention to: the possibility
>that I can repair the situation.
>
>People tell me that Windows needs to be reinstalled every now and then, but if I
>can avoid that, I will. Reinstalling Win98, then all my apps and upgrading each
one
>is about a sixteen hour job.
>
>So where can I find how to troubleshoot the following?
>
>1. Rundll32.exe & Windows Explorer each report this from time to time in an error
>box: This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
>
>If the problem persists, contact the program purveyor. Ironic, isn't it?
>
>2. General instability resulting in closing programs spontaneously.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Don.
>
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re: OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
Monday, December 29, 2003 at 9:07 pm Posted by Twanda
(334 messages posted)
You can reinstall over Win98 and all your drivers and programs will be left intact.
You don't need to reformat first.
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re: OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
Monday, December 29, 2003 at 9:23 pm Posted by Donald Cook
(48 messages posted)
Twanda,
Sounds good, and thanks for the reply. But when I inserted my Win98SE disk, that
wasn't an option. Probably something I missed or should have explored further, but
. . . ?
Don.
On Monday, December 29, 2003 at 9:07 pm, Twanda wrote:
>You can reinstall over Win98 and all your drivers and programs will be left intact.
>You don't need to reformat first.
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re: OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 3:50 am Posted by Gerry Kroll
(1986 messages posted)
If your W98SE install files are on the hard drive (they're usually in c:\windows\options\cabs),
you start your computer in Command Prompt mode, navigate to that folder using the
command cd   c:\windows\options\cabs (hit Enter to complete it),
and then you launch Setup by typing setup and pressing Enter. Be sure to
have your Certificate of Authenticity handy: you're going to need it. Setup may
suggest a different install directory. Don't let it do that: you need to install
to c:\windows
If your W98SE install files aren't on the hard drive, things are only slightly more
complicated:
You need to start your computer from a W98SE "custom" boot disk. You can download
a program to create this boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. You run this program
on the computer used for downloading (its OS doesn't matter). The program will ask
for a floppy, and will then create the desired boot disk.
When that W98SE "custom" boot disk is in control, the CD drive will be r:.
Insert the W98SE CD into the drive, and then type these commands. The xcopy
command will copy the install files to the hard drive (highly recommended). You can
remove the CD when this command is finished.
xcopy   /y   r:\win98\*.*   c:\windows\options\cabs\
c:
cd   \windows\options\cabs
setup
Setup may suggest a different install directory. Don't let it do that: you need
to install to c:\windows
On Monday, December 29, 2003 at 9:23 pm, Donald Cook wrote:
>Twanda,
>
>Sounds good, and thanks for the reply. But when I inserted my Win98SE disk, that
>wasn't an option. Probably something I missed or should have explored further, but
>. . . ?
>
>Don.
>
>
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re: OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 8:30 am Posted by Donald Cook
(48 messages posted)
DRB,
Thanks for the suggestion. SinceI didn't follow your instructions carefully, I found
something else out that may or may not be significant: DRWATSON won't prepare a
log. When I set it with a place to put the log, no log appears there later, either
through DRWATSON or using the Explorer.
I'll induce the failure (which BTW is duplicatable: whenever I turn the computer
on, about 3 minutes later the error message appears) and see what Details shows.
Don.
On Monday, December 29, 2003 at 9:06 pm, DRB wrote:
>Thats happened to me in the past, I just went on the net and grabbed a new copy
of
>that .dll....yours is most likely corrupted, you can also do this, Start - run -
>type in DRWATSON, puts and icon by your clock, next .dll error click 'Details' it
>will show you the program instead of all those numbers. But most likely a corrupt
>.dll
>
>
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re: OK, if I don't reinstall W98, what do I do?
Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 4:49 pm Posted by Donald Cook
(48 messages posted)
Gerry,
Thanks for the help. I tried D/l'ing a bootdisk but when I run it, on another computer
(the one I D/l'ed it on) I get an error: boot9sc.exe has executed an illegal instruction
and will be terminated.
Tried D/l'ing it twice, same result, first to my desktop, then to my hard drive.
Not that that should make a difference.
Don.
On Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 3:50 am, Gerry Kroll wrote:
>If your W98SE install files are on the hard drive (they're usually in c:\windows\options\cabs),
>you start your computer in Command Prompt mode, navigate to that folder using the
>command cd  c:\windows\options\cabs (hit Enter to complete it),
>and then you launch Setup by typing setup and pressing Enter. Be sure
to
>have your Certificate of Authenticity handy: you're going to need it. Setup
may
>suggest a different install directory. Don't let it do that: you need to install
>to c:\windows
>
>
>If your W98SE install files aren't on the hard drive, things are only slightly more
>complicated:
>
>You need to start your computer from a W98SE "custom" boot disk. You can download
>a program to create this boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. You run this program
>on the computer used for downloading (its OS doesn't matter). The program will ask
>for a floppy, and will then create the desired boot disk.
>
>When that W98SE "custom" boot disk is in control, the CD drive will be r:.
>Insert the W98SE CD into the drive, and then type these commands. The xcopy
>command will copy the install files to the hard drive (highly recommended). You
can
>remove the CD when this command is finished.
> xcopy /y  r:\win98\*.*  c:\windows\options\cabs\
> c:
> cd \windows\options\cabs
> setup
>Setup may suggest a different install directory. Don't let it do that: you need
>to install to c:\windows
>
>
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