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re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 10:15 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) EMERGENCY BOOT DISK FREEWARE Just try this first on the C: drive. Download Delindex.bat onto your bootdisk. Boot on the bootdisk and get to the A:\> prompt where you should type: A:\>delindex run , and press Enter You should see a read-out of the increase in free-space on drive C: Can you get into Safe Mode by holding down the L/H Ctrl key or by continually tapping the F8 key whilst the system is loading? If you can and still need more free-space try uninstalling a few programs, then try running scandisk and defrag in safe mode. Are you using an ME defrag.exe, or are you still using the old '98 defrag.exe? I take it that you tried: A:\>scanreg /restore , but couldn't find a good registry to restore to? A good '98 bootdiskette should have generic drivers for your CD rom and there are probably DOS burning programs which will allow you to burn your data to the CD-RW. DELINDEX.BAT Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 11:01 am Posted by newcal (4 messages posted) Thanks Mac, I will try that. WIll let you know how it goes. Thanks again. Newcal On Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 10:15 am, Mac wrote: >EMERGENCY BOOT DISK  >href="http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?cat=019">FREEWARE >Just try this first on the C: drive. Download Delindex.bat onto your bootdisk. Boot >on the bootdisk and get to the A:\> prompt where you should type: > >A:\>delindex run , and press Enter > >You should see a read-out of the increase in free-space on drive C: > >Can you get into Safe Mode by holding down the L/H Ctrl key or by continually tapping >the F8 key whilst the system is loading? > >If you can and still need more free-space try uninstalling a few programs, then try >running scandisk and defrag in safe mode. Are you using an ME defrag.exe, or are >you still using the old '98 defrag.exe? > >I take it that you tried: A:\>scanreg /restore , but couldn't find a good registry >to restore to? > >A good '98 bootdiskette should have generic drivers for your CD rom and there are >probably DOS burning programs which will allow you to burn your data to the CD-RW. > >DELINDEX.BAT > Mac > >WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 2:50 pm Posted by carl (855 messages posted) Windows is what crashed so the files on D drive should still be ok once you get windows reloaded. Keep as many programs as possible on the D drive to conserve space on C. From dos rename win.com to win.old This will permit windows to reload without formatting and possible save some of your files/pgms. Once you have saved these you would probably want o refornat and load windows from scratch to get rid of all the other junk that has accumuated and likely causing problems. On Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 9:39 am, newcal wrote: >Any help is welcome! >I have an old Dell 266mhz with 2 drives in it. >My virus scanning software from Norton was filling in my C drive at a fast pace and >of course I had not backed up my files for a while. The system crashed because there >was not enough memory left on the C drive. A boot message was telling me also that >my registry was corrupted. I looked at my C:\Windows directory and could not find >anything in that directory so I figured I had to run Scandisk....I did...it fixed >what it found in error and created 64 directories with the names of DIR000n (n going >from 1 to 64). Rebooting it still did not work and I tried an old rescue disk where >I found the scanreg utility. I ran it and it said it could not fix the registry. >I tried to restore an old registry RB00..file but could not find one anywhere (of >course going through 64 DIR000...directories would take forever. So now I cannot >boot the system with CD-ROM support since I cannot find my CD-ROM drivers either >and I cannot use the CD-ROM drive to get the drivers from the drive's CD either. >Basically at this point, I have given up but I would like to salvage my D: drive >(60GB Maxtor) which has my most valuable data (about 20GB worth of it). I can see >the drive in DOS and can see the files I need to recover in DOS but obviously cannot >copy them via a floppy. Is there anyway I can get my files out of that drive? Short >of duplicating harware or having to install that drive into a new computer....Thanks >in advance >Newcal [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 3:39 pm Posted by newcal (4 messages posted) Carl, Thanks a lot for the suggestions, I guess I have tried some of this...here is a stumbling block, my win.com file has disappeared so that stops me right there. I am thinking of trying to re-install win98 at this point. The other issue I have (maybe it isn't), my win98 CD was an upgrade from Win95 ....it seems like a catch 22 situation...anyways...thanks a lot for the help. Newcal On Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 2:50 pm, carl wrote: >Windows is what crashed so the files on D drive should >still be ok once you get windows reloaded. Keep as many programs as possible on >the D drive to conserve >space on C. From dos rename win.com to win.old >This will permit windows to reload without formatting >and possible save some of your files/pgms. Once you have saved these you would probably >want o refornat and load windows from scratch to get rid of all the other >junk that has accumuated and likely causing problems. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 5:43 pm Posted by Kevin Andries (320 messages posted) As a last resort, you may want to remove your slave drive and connect it to a master hard drive in a working computer ( friend's or relative's?) Then, if that computer has a writer, you could burn your files on to CDR's from the slave drive. Just a suggestion. On Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 9:39 am, newcal wrote: >Any help is welcome! >I have an old Dell 266mhz with 2 drives in it. >My virus scanning software from Norton was filling in my C drive at a fast pace and >of course I had not backed up my files for a while. The system crashed because there >was not enough memory left on the C drive. A boot message was telling me also that >my registry was corrupted. I looked at my C:\Windows directory and could not find >anything in that directory so I figured I had to run Scandisk....I did...it fixed >what it found in error and created 64 directories with the names of DIR000n (n going >from 1 to 64). Rebooting it still did not work and I tried an old rescue disk where >I found the scanreg utility. I ran it and it said it could not fix the registry. >I tried to restore an old registry RB00..file but could not find one anywhere (of >course going through 64 DIR000...directories would take forever. So now I cannot >boot the system with CD-ROM support since I cannot find my CD-ROM drivers either >and I cannot use the CD-ROM drive to get the drivers from the drive's CD either. >Basically at this point, I have given up but I would like to salvage my D: drive >(60GB Maxtor) which has my most valuable data (about 20GB worth of it). I can see >the drive in DOS and can see the files I need to recover in DOS but obviously cannot >copy them via a floppy. Is there anyway I can get my files out of that drive? Short >of duplicating harware or having to install that drive into a new computer....Thanks >in advance >Newcal [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 1:34 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) EMERGENCY BOOT DISK FREEWARE Look forward to hearing from you. Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 1:44 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) EMERGENCY BOOT DISK FREEWARE And if you are in the market for a new drive get a 20Gb drive with an 8Mb drive-cache then you'll see defrag (ME) run four times faster than on a drive with a 2Mb cache. Truly amazing! I bought a new IDE cable (18") to slave an old drive to my new one for just a few $$$. Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 2:09 am Posted by grunt (303 messages posted) Sounds like it has bad memory or something. This has happened to me, My Fault! I trusted Windows Compression. The DoubleSpace. It seems that the memory I had was bad, when I tried to uncompress the harddisk it lost everything I had. Scandisk was always finding errors. I don't think you can install Windows 98 from an Upgrade CD-ROM. You will have to have the Full version to re-install windows. On Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 9:39 am, newcal wrote: >Any help is welcome! >I have an old Dell 266mhz with 2 drives in it. >My virus scanning software from Norton was filling in my C drive at a fast pace and >of course I had not backed up my files for a while. The system crashed because there >was not enough memory left on the C drive. A boot message was telling me also that >my registry was corrupted. I looked at my C:\Windows directory and could not find >anything in that directory so I figured I had to run Scandisk....I did...it fixed >what it found in error and created 64 directories with the names of DIR000n (n going >from 1 to 64). Rebooting it still did not work and I tried an old rescue disk where >I found the scanreg utility. I ran it and it said it could not fix the registry. >I tried to restore an old registry RB00..file but could not find one anywhere (of >course going through 64 DIR000...directories would take forever. So now I cannot >boot the system with CD-ROM support since I cannot find my CD-ROM drivers either >and I cannot use the CD-ROM drive to get the drivers from the drive's CD either. >Basically at this point, I have given up but I would like to salvage my D: drive >(60GB Maxtor) which has my most valuable data (about 20GB worth of it). I can see >the drive in DOS and can see the files I need to recover in DOS but obviously cannot >copy them via a floppy. Is there anyway I can get my files out of that drive? Short >of duplicating harware or having to install that drive into a new computer....Thanks >in advance >Newcal [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 6:26 am Posted by newcal (4 messages posted) Latest: Managed to find an HP writer CD-ROM DOS driver via one of the links you guys gave me. Now I can use one of my CD-ROM drives...this is a great step.... Put in my Windows 98 SE upgrade disk in. Of course, it is now asking me to do a scandisk on all drives. C: is now fine (although the directories are all renamed DIR000..) Now it is finding problems on the D: drive where all my good data is. Fortunately it seems to have identified just one corrupted directory I don't need. So I have to hit enter 200 times in Scandisk to "fix" these files and directories. Then I might be able to re-install Windows, although I am hearing it won't work.#@$(#)#!!???? I have not tried yet to copy files from my D: drive to the CD-ROM drive...will the DOS Copy command write files to a CD? Soon, the next episode of my adventures in GATESLAND! Thanks again for all the help. Newcal On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 2:09 am, Usher9372 wrote: >Sounds like it has bad memory or something. This has happened to me, My Fault! > I trusted Windows Compression. The DoubleSpace. > >It seems that the memory I had was bad, when I tried to >uncompress the harddisk it lost everything I had. >Scandisk was always finding errors. > >I don't think you can install Windows 98 from an Upgrade CD-ROM. You will have >to have the Full version to re-install windows. > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Computer crash..trying to salvage files Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 7:24 am Posted by grunt (303 messages posted) try to look inside the folders, you should know which is Windows if it has the filenames in them, find the System folder. then Rename that to system, etc. Till Windows starts. There is an .ini file for scandisk in the C:\windows\command\ folder At the c:\ prompt in Msdos mode: Scandisk /? this will give you options. (Some Options )... Scandisk /Surface /NOSAVE /AUTOFIX /ALL On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 6:26 am, newcal wrote: >Latest: >Managed to find an HP writer CD-ROM DOS driver via one of the links you guys gave >me. Now I can use one of my CD-ROM drives...this is a great step.... >Put in my Windows 98 SE upgrade disk in. Of course, it is now asking me to do a scandisk >on all drives. C: is now fine (although the directories are all renamed DIR000..) >Now it is finding problems on the D: drive where all my good data is. Fortunately >it seems to have identified just one corrupted directory I don't need. So I have >to hit enter 200 times in Scandisk to "fix" these files and directories. Then I might >be able to re-install Windows, although I am hearing it won't work.#@$(#)#!!???? >I have not tried yet to copy files from my D: drive to the CD-ROM drive...will the >DOS Copy command write files to a CD? Soon, the next episode of my adventures in >GATESLAND! >Thanks again for all the help. >Newcal > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows 98 Discussion Forum