I am having problems connecting my two Win 98SE computers with a ethernet cable (no hub). I have just recently retreived my Network Neighborhood icon. I have never connected a network before. Both computers have the same workgroup name and different computer names. The ethernet cards are recognized in device manager with no problems. The cable is connected. I only get the computer I am on, in the network neighborhood. I have tried to install TweakUI but no icon appears in my control panel. My Network Neighborhood icon is the flying windows if that means anything. Someone said to use the "Network Setup Wizard" which I could not find on my computer anywhere.

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On both machines:-

Client for Microsoft networks is installed & is primary logon
TCP/IP is installed (best if its only protocol installed)
same workgroup (you have done this)
file (and printer if required) sharing installed, and at least one resource (drive/folder/printer) 
shared.
Unique computer name (you have done this)
Unique IP address in the same range as other machine (there are 3 private ranges 
- commonly use 192.168.x.x - so for example use 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 with 
a subnet of 255.255.255.0).

When you logon, make sure you get a network logon (not just a windows one) - and 
do supply logon details - don't escape or cancel out of logon.

HTH.

PS. If you do all this, and it still doesn't work, try removing all networking stuff 
from both machines (ideally also remove the NICs, replace the NICs and reinstall 
everything from scratch).






On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 11:04 am, Marty wrote:

>I am having problems connecting my two Win 98SE computers with a ethernet cable 
(no 

>hub).  I have just recently retreived my Network Neighborhood icon.  I have never 

>connected a network before.  Both computers have the same workgroup name and different 

>computer names.  The ethernet cards are recognized in device manager with no problems. 

> The cable is connected.  I only get the computer I am on, in the network neighborhood. 

> I have tried to install TweakUI but no icon appears in my control panel.  My Network 

>Neighborhood icon is the flying windows if that means anything.  Someone said to 

>use the "Network Setup Wizard" which I could not find on my computer anywhere. 

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>try to use the netBEUI protocol rather than the tcp/ip

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 Marty 
Read, see links below
http://www.kime.net/directcc/
http://www.kime.net/directcc/directcc95.htm
http://www.lpt.com/Downloads/downloads.htm


http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm







On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 11:04 am, Marty wrote:

>I am having problems connecting my two Win 98SE computers with a ethernet cable 
(no 

>hub).  I have just recently retreived my Network Neighborhood icon.  I have never 

>connected a network before.  Both computers have the same workgroup name and different 

>computer names.  The ethernet cards are recognized in device manager with no problems. 

> The cable is connected.  I only get the computer I am on, in the network neighborhood. 

> I have tried to install TweakUI but no icon appears in my control panel.  My Network 

>Neighborhood icon is the flying windows if that means anything.  Someone said to 

>use the "Network Setup Wizard" which I could not find on my computer anywhere. 

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sorry - have to disagree. TCP/IP is best protocol to use (its Microsoft's own, so 
best support - also if you have an internet connection on one of the machines you 
can share it using 98SE ICS over TCP/IP - or using a proxy server). Also - for someone 
trying to set up a network and having trouble, obviously not a network expert, its 
just confusing having had a recommendation to use TCP/IP to get another to use netbeui. 
I know both will do this job, but its not a good idea to install both protocols (additional 
resources used for no use). If Marty posts back not able to get TCP/IP to work - 
then a suggestion to try netbeui instead would be useful.

What I'm trying to say is can't we support Marty to get his network up and running 
(your comment about using netbeui rather than tcp/ip is not helpful in the current 
context. I've always been able to get TCP/IP to work with 98 machines).







On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 3:17 pm, sk wrote:

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>

>

>>try to use the netBEUI protocol rather than the tcp/ip
 

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Thank you. I have gotten the network up and can see both computers. I deleted the additional netbeui and kept the TCP/IP. Also my friend (mac guy) mentioned that he could not get his work computers to connect without a hub. I tried this and voila, connected. However, I didn't think that you needed a hub if you only had two computers, is this true. Because I was planning on connecting my parents two computers if I didn't need a hub ( I only have one)


On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 6:25 pm, Steve Dunn wrote:
>sorry - have to disagree. TCP/IP is best protocol to use (its Microsoft's own, so
>best support - also if you have an internet connection on one of the machines you
>can share it using 98SE ICS over TCP/IP - or using a proxy server). Also - for someone
>trying to set up a network and having trouble, obviously not a network expert, its
>just confusing having had a recommendation to use TCP/IP to get another to use netbeui.
>I know both will do this job, but its not a good idea to install both protocols (additional
>resources used for no use). If Marty posts back not able to get TCP/IP to work -
>then a suggestion to try netbeui instead would be useful.
>
>What I'm trying to say is can't we support Marty to get his network up and running
>(your comment about using netbeui rather than tcp/ip is not helpful in the current
>context. I've always been able to get TCP/IP to work with 98 machines).
>
>
>

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You don't need a hub to connect just 2 computers. Just a crossover cable - I'm just 
wondering if that's what your problem was. Are you sure you had a crossover cable 
not just a normal one?





On the other hand, hubs, switches and routers are very cheap nowadays (use a switch 
or a router - depending on whether you have a broadband internet connection too - 
router if connection, switch - better than a hub, specially if you later add one 
or more machines to the network - if not), and give you lots more flexibility - specially 
to add more machines later (eg, laptop(s)).






On Saturday, January 1, 2005 at 12:31 am, Marty wrote:

>Thank you.

>

>I have gotten the network up and can see both computers.  I deleted the additional 

>netbeui and kept the TCP/IP.  Also my friend (mac guy) mentioned that he could not 

>get his work computers to connect without a hub.  I tried this and voila, connected. 

> However, I didn't think that you needed a hub if you only had two computers, is 

>this true.  Because I was planning on connecting  my parents two computers if I 
didn't 

>need a hub ( I only have one)

>

>

>

> 

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I know this is off topic, but tcpip is NOT microsofts!!!


On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 6:25 pm, Steve Dunn wrote:
>sorry - have to disagree. TCP/IP is best protocol to use (its Microsoft's own, so
>best support - also if you have an internet connection on one of the machines you
>can share it using 98SE ICS over TCP/IP - or using a proxy server). Also - for someone
>trying to set up a network and having trouble, obviously not a network expert, its
>just confusing having had a recommendation to use TCP/IP to get another to use netbeui.
>I know both will do this job, but its not a good idea to install both protocols (additional
>resources used for no use). If Marty posts back not able to get TCP/IP to work -
>then a suggestion to try netbeui instead would be useful.
>
>What I'm trying to say is can't we support Marty to get his network up and running
>(your comment about using netbeui rather than tcp/ip is not helpful in the current
>context. I've always been able to get TCP/IP to work with 98 machines).
>
>
>

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What is the difference btw a crossover cable and a regular network cable?? Thanks for the info.


On Saturday, January 1, 2005 at 8:48 am, Steve Dunn wrote:
>
>You don't need a hub to connect just 2 computers. Just a crossover cable - I'm just
>wondering if that's what your problem was. Are you sure you had a crossover cable
>not just a normal one?
>

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Marty
Read a bit !!!!,see link beow
http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm
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http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1104535424







On Sunday, January 2, 2005 at 8:27 am, Marty wrote:

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>What is the difference btw a crossover cable and a regular network cable??

>

>Thanks for the info.

>

> 

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You need to have BOTH TCP/IP and NETBEUI installed on both the host and client computers for this to work with a crossover cable. Don't know why you do, but I just spent most of the day solving this problem and that did it.


On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 11:04 am, Marty wrote:
>I am having problems connecting my two Win 98SE computers with a ethernet cable (no
>hub). I have just recently retreived my Network Neighborhood icon. I have never
>connected a network before. Both computers have the same workgroup name and different
>computer names. The ethernet cards are recognized in device manager with no problems.
> The cable is connected. I only get the computer I am on, in the network neighborhood.
> I have tried to install TweakUI but no icon appears in my control panel. My Network
>Neighborhood icon is the flying windows if that means anything. Someone said to
>use the "Network Setup Wizard" which I could not find on my computer anywhere.

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What if I have Windows XP on one computer, and Windows 98 on the other? What if I have FAT32 file system on one computer and NTFS on the other? Will FAT32 recognize NTFS files on the other computer?


On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 11:04 am, Marty wrote:
>I am having problems connecting my two Win 98SE computers with a ethernet cable (no
>hub). I have just recently retreived my Network Neighborhood icon. I have never
>connected a network before. Both computers have the same workgroup name and different
>computer names. The ethernet cards are recognized in device manager with no problems.
> The cable is connected. I only get the computer I am on, in the network neighborhood.
> I have tried to install TweakUI but no icon appears in my control panel. My Network
>Neighborhood icon is the flying windows if that means anything. Someone said to
>use the "Network Setup Wizard" which I could not find on my computer anywhere.

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Tell me how to crossover 2 computers with winxp


On Friday, December 31, 2004 at 11:04 am, Marty wrote:
>I am having problems connecting my two Win 98SE computers with a ethernet cable (no
>hub). I have just recently retreived my Network Neighborhood icon. I have never
>connected a network before. Both computers have the same workgroup name and different
>computer names. The ethernet cards are recognized in device manager with no problems.
> The cable is connected. I only get the computer I am on, in the network neighborhood.
> I have tried to install TweakUI but no icon appears in my control panel. My Network
>Neighborhood icon is the flying windows if that means anything. Someone said to
>use the "Network Setup Wizard" which I could not find on my computer anywhere.

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On Tuesday, May 1, 2007 at 5:18 am, Esbon Mwangi wrote:

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>Tell me how to crossover 2 computers with winxp

>

> 

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