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Extended RAM failed at offset 1A
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Extended RAM failed at offset 1A
Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 8:21 pm Posted by Loc Long
(2 messages posted)
I have an HP 8750C Pavilion, 667Mhz running WIN98 with original 64M of SDRAM. Phoenix
BIOS version 1.10
I have just purchased a new memory stick and installed it in second bank. At boot-up
the system returns the above error . The system does recognize the new extended SDRAM
and new the total installed memory for banks
The new SDRAM is PC133 256M though
Can I run mix speed memory sticks on this HP ?
The computer specs said it supports both speed. The sale guy said it "should" work
!
When I put the new stick in slot 1, it failed to boot completely. Does this mean
I have a bad memory stick ?.. It is brand new.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks for your help
Loc
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re: Extended RAM failed at offset 1A
Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 9:03 pm Posted by C K
(5976 messages posted)
Your machine won't support High Density RAM which is about all that is sold anymore.
You have to specify Low Density of the same speed (preferably) and it should marked
as such. Spec 133 LD RAM will usually clock down to 100. HD (High Density) is not
backward compatible IME with Spec 100 and won't mix well. Additionally, better to
either order it from HP or go to a site like Kingston or Crucial, look up your machine
and use the recommended memory. Those PC manufacturers had a habit of using out
of the ordinary spec modules sometimes. Outside of that, it "could" be bad memory
if you want to try and return it for another stick. Also make sure that the machine
will handle the size, combo, and module config of memory that you are trying to use.
In other words, sometimes you can use a 256 module but it must be double sided (usually
LD).. If you purchased a single sided 256 module, it won't work in older machines.
Your owners manual should tell you for sure. Good Luck.
On Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 8:21 pm, Loc Long wrote:
>I have an HP 8750C Pavilion, 667Mhz running WIN98 with original 64M of SDRAM. Phoenix
>BIOS version 1.10
>
>I have just purchased a new memory stick and installed it in second bank. At boot-up
>the system returns the above error . The system does recognize the new extended
SDRAM
>and new the total installed memory for banks
>
>The new SDRAM is PC133 256M though
>
>Can I run mix speed memory sticks on this HP ?
>The computer specs said it supports both speed. The sale guy said it "should" work
>!
>
>When I put the new stick in slot 1, it failed to boot completely. Does this mean
>I have a bad memory stick ?.. It is brand new.
>
>Any suggestions ?
>
>Thanks for your help
>
>Loc
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re: Extended RAM failed at offset 1A
Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 9:26 pm Posted by C K
(5976 messages posted)
This is the correct spec for your system and it is double sided LD. This is a 256
module:
http://www.crucial.com/store/MPartspecs.Asp?mtbpoid=1FD50B59A5CA7304&WSMD=Pavilion+8750C&WSPN=CT187297#info
When you take the new module back, make sure this is the spec you get. If they can't
verify what they are selling you, go some place that can. Note, in the above page
link two of the spec listings. CL-2 and the 32 X 64.. The 64 number can NOT be
any higher. If it is, it's wrong for your computer. Also check HP's website that
no BIOS update is necessary to run the full capacity of RAM. Sometimes the BIOS
needed to be upgraded for early versions of the same computer model series. Good
Luck!! :-)
On Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 8:21 pm, Loc Long wrote:
>I have an HP 8750C Pavilion, 667Mhz running WIN98 with original 64M of SDRAM. Phoenix
>BIOS version 1.10
>
>I have just purchased a new memory stick and installed it in second bank. At boot-up
>the system returns the above error . The system does recognize the new extended
SDRAM
>and new the total installed memory for banks
>
>The new SDRAM is PC133 256M though
>
>Can I run mix speed memory sticks on this HP ?
>The computer specs said it supports both speed. The sale guy said it "should" work
>!
>
>When I put the new stick in slot 1, it failed to boot completely. Does this mean
>I have a bad memory stick ?.. It is brand new.
>
>Any suggestions ?
>
>Thanks for your help
>
>Loc
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One correction...
Friday, September 9, 2005 at 10:18 am Posted by C K
(5976 messages posted)
I shouldn't type when I am sleeping! ;-) Your computer can handle RAM with a designation
of 16 or 64 where the 32 X "64" spec is. A number of 16 is for the smaller RAM modules
that you have now. A computer must be capable of using a 512 meg module in the mem
slots to use High Density RAM. (Greater than 1 gig total in 2 or more slots) They
would have a designation of something like 64 X 4 which not many computers can use.
Only the last of certian chipsets before DDR ram came out can do so. All others
must use Low Density modules, FYI when buying them. Computers that can use High
density modules can also use Low Density RAM but not the other way around. Have
fun!! :-)
On Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 8:21 pm, Loc Long wrote:
>I have an HP 8750C Pavilion, 667Mhz running WIN98 with original 64M of SDRAM. Phoenix
>BIOS version 1.10
>
>I have just purchased a new memory stick and installed it in second bank. At boot-up
>the system returns the above error . The system does recognize the new extended
SDRAM
>and new the total installed memory for banks
>
>The new SDRAM is PC133 256M though
>
>Can I run mix speed memory sticks on this HP ?
>The computer specs said it supports both speed. The sale guy said it "should" work
>!
>
>When I put the new stick in slot 1, it failed to boot completely. Does this mean
>I have a bad memory stick ?.. It is brand new.
>
>Any suggestions ?
>
>Thanks for your help
>
>Loc
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re: Extended RAM failed at offset 1A
Friday, September 9, 2005 at 10:06 pm Posted by Loc Long
(2 messages posted)
Hey C.K
You're absolutely correct !. I got a new 16-chip stick , PC133 and it works just
fine now (all total 320M of SDRAM...the wife loves the surfing now !).
I didn't have to upgrade or change anything in BIOS or move the sticks around in
different banks. The returned RAM didn't have any problems either as it was tested
in the store PC and it came up fine (4 chip, double side).
I took your advice and got new stick even though the sale guys who sold me the stuff
didn't know whether it would work...He suggested to bring the PC in for them to check
(charge ~ $45)....I said no-thank and took a chance with the new stick.
Also did chat with the HP support tech last night before posted the question on this
forum and the person was clueless. First of all the person told me the PC doesn't
support PC133 , then retracted and apologized after I sent the PC specs. Then the
person told me it's a bad mem and the solution is get a new one and make sure I don't
run the two memory sticks together...I'm in tech support also and completely PC illiterate
but the support was bad !. Sorry about the rant
Again thank you for taking time to answer my questions.
Cheers
Loc
On Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 9:26 pm, C K wrote:
>This is the correct spec for your system and it is double sided LD. This is a 256
>module:
>
>http://www.crucial.com/store/MPartspecs.Asp?mtbpoid=1FD50B59A5CA7304&WSMD=Pavilion+8750C&WSPN=CT187297#info
>
>When you take the new module back, make sure this is the spec you get. If they
can't
>verify what they are selling you, go some place that can. Note, in the above page
>link two of the spec listings. CL-2 and the 32 X 64.. The 64 number can NOT be
>any higher. If it is, it's wrong for your computer. Also check HP's website that
>no BIOS update is necessary to run the full capacity of RAM. Sometimes the BIOS
>needed to be upgraded for early versions of the same computer model series. Good
>Luck!! :-)
>
>
>
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re: Extended RAM failed at offset 1A
Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 2:03 pm Posted by C K
(5976 messages posted)
Hey no prob on the rant! LOL You sure hear all kinds of stories. What they sold
you was HD (4 chip double sided) and what they gave you now is LD so it will fall
back to PC 100 when you add it in with a PC 100 module or if the FSB is set to 100.
If you can set the FSB to 133 (by MB jumper or in the BIOS) and run only that module,
you would get a slight increase in speed during some operations, such as mem intensive
ones. The HD won't fall back or clock down to PC 100, in fact the good manufacturers
usually put warnings on them for not being backward compatible. Most of the gerenics/OEM
won't have a warning at all! :-( So all in all, it should work fine now. Good
Luck!!
On Friday, September 9, 2005 at 10:06 pm, Loc Long wrote:
>
>Hey C.K
>
>You're absolutely correct !. I got a new 16-chip stick , PC133 and it works just
>fine now (all total 320M of SDRAM...the wife loves the surfing now !).
>
>I didn't have to upgrade or change anything in BIOS or move the sticks around in
>different banks. The returned RAM didn't have any problems either as it was tested
>in the store PC and it came up fine (4 chip, double side).
>
>I took your advice and got new stick even though the sale guys who sold me the stuff
>didn't know whether it would work...He suggested to bring the PC in for them to
check
>(charge ~ $45)....I said no-thank and took a chance with the new stick.
>
>Also did chat with the HP support tech last night before posted the question on
this
>forum and the person was clueless. First of all the person told me the PC doesn't
>support PC133 , then retracted and apologized after I sent the PC specs. Then the
>person told me it's a bad mem and the solution is get a new one and make sure I
don't
>run the two memory sticks together...I'm in tech support also and completely PC
illiterate
>but the support was bad !. Sorry about the rant
>
>Again thank you for taking time to answer my questions.
>
>Cheers
>Loc
>
>
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