I have a question about Resolving Hardware Conflicts:

I just reformatted my old windows 98 computer that i hadn't used for a while. it needed me to install a crystal soundfusion cs4281 WDM audio driver. So i do that but the sound still didn't work. there is an exclamation mark beside the device in device manager, which i've been lead to belive is a hardware conflict. the "solution" on device manager was just to update the driver but the driver was already the newest update. I have reinstalled the driver many times. I have tried so many things but nothing gets me sound. how do i get that exclamation mark gone. Please try to give me multiple ways because i've tryed lots of stuff. Please save me!

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|it needed me to install a crystal soundfusion cs4281 WDM audio driver.
|So i do that but...there is an exclamation mark...
|I have reinstalled the driver many times.
| taylor
|
Did you try DELETING the driver before installing it again?

|i've [tried] lots of stuff.
|
Did you try putting the card in another slot?

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Taylor, 

If the Yellow Exclamation mark is still there, right click on the device and select 
Remove. OK your way out and reboot.

This should cause windows to identify the device again and install a driver. As gewg_ 
said remove the old driver first, so it's not there to be re-installed.

Be sure you know the exact location of the new Driver, floppy is probably best. You 
should be prompted thru the driver process when you re-boot. In the event another 
driver is installed, go to Device MGR and click Update Driver, then point windows 
to the location of the one you want installed.

BW







On Saturday, December 3, 2005 at 9:29 pm, taylor wrote:

>I have a question about Resolving 

>Hardware Conflicts:


>

>

>I just reformatted my old windows 98 computer that i hadn't used for a while. it 

>needed me to install a crystal soundfusion cs4281 WDM audio driver. So i do that 

>but the sound still didn't work. there is an exclamation mark beside the device 
in 

>device manager, which i've been lead to belive is a hardware conflict. the "solution" 

>on device manager was just to update the driver but the driver was already the newest 

>update. I have reinstalled the driver many times. I have tried so many things but 

>nothing gets me sound. how do i get that exclamation mark gone. Please try to give 

>me multiple ways because i've tryed lots of stuff. Please save me! 

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>Did you try DELETING the driver before installing it again?

Yes i deleted the driver before installing again.

>|

>Did you try putting the card in another slot?

No, i didn't try that, but my sound worked before i reformated the computer. SO im 
pretty sure thats not it. But could you tell me how to do that anyways?

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|||I have reinstalled the driver many times.
||| taylor

insanity: n. Doing the same thing over and over, believing you will get different 
results.

Your current technique (Bob is going down the same path)
ASSuMEs that the driver for the errant device is pliant and does PnP nicely.
The article you referenced assumes exactly the OPPOSITE
and suggests that the drivers(s) for THE OTHER DEVICE(S) are more pliant.
(If there is a CONFLICT, surely there must be 2 devices with yellow marks.)

The article suggests that removing the device driver for the OTHER DEVICE
and re-installing IT may clear the problem.
Did you try that?

Barring the appearance of a 2nd yellow mark, the article suggests that
removing ALL innecessary installed devices may clear the problem
and that re-installing THOSE devices will go more smoothly
than re-installing the stubborn device.
It doesn't sound at all like you tried that.


||Did you try putting the card in another slot?
|| gewg_

|...could you tell me how to do that...?
| taylor

A hardware approach sometimes works to clear conflicts.

Power down your box.
Pull the side off.
Following good anti-static electricity techniqies,
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1127346860
remove the 1 screw[1] that secures the card to the chassis and lift out the card.
Plug it into a slot of similar color and shape and secure the card.


[1] Usually a Phillips or 1/4" hex head.

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gewg_

Why not a 12ga. at close range?

The Poster never mentioned a second Yellow exclamation mark; Why do you ASSuMe it's 
there? Seek first to understand!

If he ASSuMes it's a hardware conflict, without evidence presented,why do you ASSuME 
what he ASSuMEs? (ASSuME)2. This is what questions are for.


>(If there is a CONFLICT, surely there must be 2 devices with yellow marks.). Self 
fulling Prophecy. If not now, soon.

In light of previous ASSuME's, the referenced Article is invalid. No evidence of 
Hardware Conflict presented, only (ASSuME)2.

"Bob is going down the same path"

Obviously you ASSuME you know what path I'm going down. From your post, that's doubtful.

 The only thing I ASSuME is, that Windows will do what Windows always does when presented 
with a new device; Identify the device and attempt to locate and install the appropriate 
driver for said device. (Safe ASSuME, IT's programmed that way.) And If no driver 
is found it will present an opportunity for a new driver to be loaded from an alternate 
location/media, and installed.

As Posted, this had not been tried. KISS

Another form of insanity, is thinking you always know the answer, without even knowing 
the question.
gDay

BW






On Sunday, December 4, 2005 at 11:23 am, gewg_ wrote:

>|||I have reinstalled the driver many times.

>||| taylor

>

>insanity: n. Doing the same thing over and over, believing you will get different 

>results.

>

>Your current technique (Bob is going down the same path)

>ASSuMEs that the driver for the errant device is pliant and does PnP nicely.

>The article you referenced assumes exactly the OPPOSITE

>and suggests that the drivers(s) for THE OTHER DEVICE(S) are more pliant.

>(If there is a CONFLICT, surely there must be 2 devices with yellow marks.)

>

>The article suggests that removing the device driver for the OTHER DEVICE

>and re-installing IT may clear the problem.

>Did you try that?

>

>Barring the appearance of a 2nd yellow mark, the article suggests that

>removing ALL innecessary installed devices may clear the problem

>and that re-installing THOSE devices will go more smoothly

>than re-installing the stubborn device.

>It doesn't sound at all like you tried that.

>

>

>||Did you try putting the card in another slot?

>|| gewg_

>

>|...could you tell me how to do that...?

>| taylor

>

>A hardware approach sometimes works to clear conflicts.

>

>Power down your box.

>Pull the side off.

>Following good anti-static electricity techniqies,

>http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1127346860

>remove the 1 screw[1] that secures the card to the chassis and lift out the card.

>Plug it into a slot of similar color and shape and secure the card.

>

>

>[1] Usually a Phillips or 1/4" hex head.
 

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Ya, I don't see a second exclamation mark so i'll try what you said about removing the other drivers. If that doesn't work i'll do the change of slots. You'll have to wait a while to see if this works because i'm in a different town than the computer with problems for a week. Until then, so long, Taylor

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Hi Bill, I'm having some sort of the same problem. I have windows98, & have had this computer for about 4 years. The sound worked fine until about 2 1/2 months ago. Under "Device Manager">>PCI Multimedia Device>> with a ? mark & also ( ! ) on top of ? mark. I do not know much on computers (I lied--I know nothing at all). If you can help me, just please let me know the information (I know I probably didn't give you enough) and I will do what I can to get info. for you, if Iknow how! Thank You So Very Much!!! Tami Lynn


On Saturday, December 3, 2005 at 10:04 pm, bob wells wrote:
>Taylor,
>
>If the Yellow Exclamation mark is still there, right click on the device and select
>Remove. OK your way out and reboot.
>
>This should cause windows to identify the device again and install a driver. As gewg_
>said remove the old driver first, so it's not there to be re-installed.
>
>Be sure you know the exact location of the new Driver, floppy is probably best. You
>should be prompted thru the driver process when you re-boot. In the event another
>driver is installed, go to Device MGR and click Update Driver, then point windows
>to the location of the one you want installed.
>
>BW
>
>
>

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Ya... there was only one exclamation mark.

im back at the computer that has the sound problems.(I was away for a couple weeks) 
I don’t
want to remove all the other drivers then reinstall the sound driver like gewg said.

 Do u or anyone else have any other alternatives? Removing and then reinstalling 
the driver hasn't
worked. Updating hasn't worked either(no newer version). 

When I remove and then install again, I asks for the CD labeled WHQL. I have no idea 
what that
is. It says that it can't find the file called (PW5026.cat). I just got the driver 
off the Internet. ( I
don't know if it's relevant, but, I got new speakers)

If anyone wants more info, just ask. Please try to give as many fixes as possible. 
Please send help,
my temper is withering away very quickly.

Taylor

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taylor,

Welcome back, Merry christmas to you and yours.

WHQL= Windows Hardware Quality Assurance Labs. Google this one. No clue why it came 
up, unless the downloaded driver is not digitally signed. Compliance with WHQL?

A couple of things come to mind. First, since Windows did not find the downloaded 
driver, I would guess that there is a specific set of steps required to install this 
driver. I would also guess that you've not followed those steps exactly.
 
Drivers can be very tricky, some require you to download to HDD, then run the download 
file to create a floppy disk that is used to actually install the driver. At the 
right time, of course. No there is no source to determine the exact install process, 
other than the source from which you acquire the driver. Be sure to read any readme 
files that may accompany the download.


Having said that, it is possible to get conflicting instructions from that same source. 
If installing a driver is tricky, so is the process of selecting the right driver 
for your hardware configuration. Possibly, you noticed in your search for this driver, 
that the same device with the same Driver number was listed SEPARATELY, for several, 
if not Many different computer systems. The same computer with different Motherboards, 
but the some sound card, may require different versions of the same driver.  Be sure 
you are getting the driver for your System, not just the sound card. 

Second, Some Antivirus software can interfere with successful downloads. Norton Antivirus 
is one that comes to mind, from personal experience. I have no experience with Firewalls, 
but from what I've read in Various Forum's, some are also problematic regarding downloaded 
material. I would disable either or both of these during the download process. You 
can restart them and scan the download with Antivirus before you open the file, after 
it is safely saved.

Most driver downloads come in Zipped format, some are self-extracting, some require 
an Un-zipper. Self extracting types seem to pose fewer problems and reduce the chance 
of corrupting the files when de-compressed. See if there is a self extracting version.

Suggestion, first be ABSOLUTELY sure you have the correct Driver for your system. 
Delete all instances of the previous driver. Download a new Driver and be sure to 
follow install instructions to the letter. Open Device manager and expand Sound video 
and game controllers, right click on all audio devices and select remove. OK out 
of Device Manager, shut down (not restart) and reboot. Follow the process and note 
any problems, specifically,details. Remember you have to tell Windows exactly where 
the Driver is, browse to the file. 

Loosing your temper is best done away from your computer. It's just a dumb machine 
& could care less how you feel about it. If you get frustrated, just put it away 
for a while. It'll still be there when you return. Good luck.

BW







On Saturday, December 24, 2005 at 6:08 pm, taylor wrote:

>Ya... there was only one exclamation mark.

>

>im back at the computer that has the sound problems.(I was away for a couple weeks) 

>I don’t

>want to remove all the other drivers then reinstall the sound driver like gewg said.

>

> Do u or anyone else have any other alternatives? Removing and then reinstalling 

>the driver hasn't

>worked. Updating hasn't worked either(no newer version). 

>

>When I remove and then install again, I asks for the CD labeled WHQL. I have no 
idea 

>what that

>is. It says that it can't find the file called (PW5026.cat). I just got the driver 

>off the Internet. ( I

>don't know if it's relevant, but, I got new speakers)

>

>If anyone wants more info, just ask. Please try to give as many fixes as possible. 

>Please send help,

>my temper is withering away very quickly.

>

>Taylor 

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I have installed the driver correctly. Well im 90% sure of that. When i go to the 
properties for the sound device in device manager, it says:
...................................................................................
Device status: The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD Device loader(s) for this device could 
not load the device driver. (Code 2) 

To fix this, click update driver to update the device driver.
...................................................................................
As i've said before, there is no update.
Im extremely perplexed by this.
Thanks for all your help with this situation Bob

Taylor

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