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re: Mouse /Keyboard Freezes if left on overnight Monday, May 29, 2006 at 12:06 pm Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted) |When I run my finger over the mouse pad | Chas | Sounds like you used the wrong word: http://www.google.com/images?q=mouse-pad Perhaps you meant touchpad. |If I leave my laptop on overnight[,] |when I come to use it in the morning[,] the keyboard and mouse have frozen. |Generally[,] no error messages are generated |and the laptop is fine once rebooted. | How much RAM do you have? How much useless junk are you running? http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1127247347 Have you swept your system for rogue software? cache of http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1130799310 +malware-infection+scan Dealing With Spyware & Parasites -- Microsoft Most Valuable Professionals http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Mouse /Keyboard Freezes if left on overnight Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 7:42 am Posted by Chas (2 messages posted) Thanks for your response Geng. I can see how misuse of the word mousepad could cause confusion - but having said that maybe I've invented something - USB2 connected!!!! My system info is ... Windows 98 4.10.2222 A Clean install using Full OEM IE 5 6.0.2800.1106 GenuineIntel Intel(r) Celeron(tm) Processor 128MB RAM 55% system resources free Windows-managed swap file on drive C (4216MB free) Available space on drive C: 4216MB of 9419MB FAT32 How much useless junk are you running? The following were found at startup which when I enquired on google I came up with the following... zztp - keystroke logger - I have unchecked it but is still there once I do all below!! scanregw - looks genuine as its takes a backup daily - no action taken. NWEReboot - Nero file but possibly not required no -action taken. AR2507MON - ***unknown-not found on google - pls advise*** TkBellExe - Realplayer file which I have unchecked but now appears twice, once checked and once unchecked!!! Suggested action is to rename to .OLD and also rename EVNTSVC to .OLD - pls advise. PL2515.exe - ***not clear on google what I should do - no action taken*** QTTASK.EXE - Movie Player - now unchecked. mstask.exe - no action taken but probably ok. KB891711 - a Microsoft fix which may or may not be a problem - no action taken. I have downloaded and run Adaware (got rid of 404 instances), Spybot (16), latest AVG (0) and ZoneAlarm (0) - I already had AVG and Zonealarm running. I have also turned off email scanner in AVG as it is also running in ZoneAlarm - is that a good decision???? I also took the actions to increase my security and privacy settings but they made IE unusuable so I have reset them to Medium as I have adequate security as above. So having done all the above the problem still occurs. Could it relate to AVG which I have got running on an automatic schedule as follows... Test Plan in basic mode 5.00am Update Plan in basic mode 03:43am You gave me a fair bit of work to do which has clearly helped already. Thanks for the help for far and appreciate any further help. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Mouse /Keyboard Freezes if left on overnight -- Infection City Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 12:05 pm Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted) |Thanks for your response Geng. | Chas | You're welcome--and that's "gewg_" (like "goog"). |55% system resources free | That's something you want to improve (by paring down the Startup List). ||How much useless junk are you running? || gewg_ | |mstask.exe - no action taken but probably ok. | M$'s automated-task manager. Many programs that need periodic updates have their own built-in schedulers these days. The only thing that uses this any more IME is Windoze. |zztp - keystroke logger - I have unchecked it but is still there | Its presence is evidence that you are a VERY unsophisticated Windoze user. |I have downloaded and run Adaware (got rid of 404 instances), |Spybot (16), | More supporting evidence Re: my hypothesis. |latest AVG (0) and ZoneAlarm (0) |I have also turned off email scanner in AVG as it is also running in ZoneAlarm | - is that a good decision? | NO. Different functions. You are unclear on what ZoneAlarm does: http://www.google.com/search?q=What-is-a-firewall Until you become MUCH more aware of what constitutes good online security (and even then), you need all the help (crutches) you can get: http://www.google.com/search?q=SiteAdvisor-Plug-in (This DOES NOT work with that PoS which I disparagingly call Internet Exploder; yet another reason to dump IE--see below.) |I also took the actions to increase my security and privacy settings |but they made IE unusable | Somehow you have missed the admonition for all Windoze users to USE A MORE SECURE BROWSER. http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1142663471 BTW, even many ostensibly "sophisticated" Windoze users have trouble getting M$IE to a reasonable level of security (which even then STILL falls short of the levels of security offered by the free alternatives available). |So[,] having done all the above[,] the problem still occurs. |Could it relate to AVG...? | *I* would suspect the (malware) keystroke logger. Not only is this the classic definition of spyware, it would seem to be POORLY WRITTEN spyware --making you aware of its presence by malfunctioning. (The Sony / Bertelsmann Music Group rootkit on their music CDs is such an infection: it is so poorly written, it makes your system run noticeably slower.) |PL2515.exe - not clear on google what I should do |AR2507MON - ***unknown-not found on google - pls advise*** | | I'm not a malware expert--far from it. (I'm not one of those "close the barn door after all the livestock is gone" types.) One last nugget: You need someone who is good at solving infection problems. Carol J is savvy about such things, but her presence here has been sparse lately (and such things are better handled in specialized fora IMO). There is a list of malware forums at the bottom of this USENET post: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.spyware/browse_frm/thread/428ecef8647500d ?q=cexx+TomCoyote+SpywareWarrior+aumha+geekstogo After you have gotten an idea of what is available, choose one and follow the forum rules there to get help getting rid of your infections. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Mouse /Keyboard Freezes if left on overnight -- Infection City Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 2:22 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33640 messages posted) You're wrong on two counts, gewg_. First off, 55% free resources isn't too low, unless that's directly after bootup. Second, off :)... There's a Site Advisor plug-in for IE also. Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] Oops... make that three Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 2:40 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33640 messages posted) I didn't read your entire post... I'm not all that savvy when it comes to theses newer infections. So, I don' deal with major malware issues much anymore, other than to try to point victims in the right direction. Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Oops... make that three -- gewg_'s screwups Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 3:33 pm Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted) First off, 55% free resources isn't too low, unless that's directly after bootup. Carol J Ack. I'll bet, however, that his numbers could be even better. Second, off :)... There's a Site Advisor plug-in for IE also. D'oh. I knew that. (Showing my deep bias there.) 8-) I was thinking of the Mozilla suite, which isn't yet explicitly supported. (Firefox is explicitly supported.) I didn't read your entire post... I'm not all that savvy when it comes to [these] newer infections. So, I [don't] deal with major malware issues much anymore, other than to try to point victims in the right direction. I acknowledge that I'm a piker when it comes to infections --and even I know that it is getting to be a major chore to try to stay current on all the nasties. Note to Chas: If you're lazy (like I am), you'll find that in the future, the easiest route is to AVOID infections. A little bit of homework pays BIG dividends. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Oops... make that three Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 6:11 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33640 messages posted) There's really no need for him to get his free resources lower than that. That's, unless he's not running the programs he normally uses. That was always about the average on my old system, 45-50% free. He still has plenty available to run even more apps, as long as they're not resource hogs. Yeah, he could probably get it down more by not using his system. If his system's infected, there may be extra resources being used than there normally is. About the bias, I completely understand that.... but, it's not lazy to want to avoid infections, since many are next to impossible to clear up! Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows 98 Discussion Forum