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re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 4:45 pm Posted by Bob Stevens (1 messages posted) Did the driver issue start after you installed Windows 98 SE on top of Windows 98? I was thinking of doing the same thing, but if it creates driver issue's, I will leave well enough alone. Sorry, I can't give you any advice on this problem. I know Windows 98 has problems. On Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 4:21 pm, marc paskvan wrote: >About once every 10th boot up, I'll see the computer is having some difficulty and >have discovered that I need to boot into safe mode--if the comp hasn't done this >itself--where I can "Remove" usually one or two drivers in Device Manager. It's >either the monitor driver (Win98SE has no driver for my Magnavox so I use a Phillips >that's probably similar). But the other is--the more frequent offender--a driver >under "Disc Drives" that's for a Maxtor drive; only mine is of Korean manufacture...so >I wind up with two drivers for the hard drive. I Remove the offending drive(s), >restart, and I'm good to go for awhile. I'm running a Windows 98SE upgrade over >my old Win98 OEM version. I once tried to install a bigger hard drive, but it was >a Seagate. (That didn't work, it was used junk.) All this on my old eMachines 333cs, >which I use for internet (dialup), mainly. I also have an old 20 gig Buslink portable >storage USB drive, which has its own driver. I thought this might be the offender, >thinking the OS may no longer be recognizing it and trying to load a driver for it >off the hard drive list. I reloaded the Buslink driver, and still get that Maxtor >one on occaision. Well, I'm puzzled...and yep, annoyed, when it happens. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 2:38 am Posted by Jacob6601 (2174 messages posted) I know it is not a true fix, but it should work: Disable (not remove) those two devices when they show up again. That way they should not be installed again, nor will they be loaded at start-up. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 5:32 am Posted by marc paskvan (12 messages posted) Thankyou, I'll check it out and see what I can do... On Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 2:38 am, Jacob6601 wrote: >I know it is not a true fix, but it should work: Disable (not remove) those two devices >when they show up again. That way they should not be installed again, nor will they >be loaded at start-up. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 5:35 am Posted by marc paskvan (12 messages posted) Yes, I believe, in fact I'm sure it was afterwards... So far I haven't had any major problems, but I'm thinking it could cause a system crash at some point. Or even ruin my monitor--that's the prob with Win98, it needs the correct driver to run the monitor, or else! On Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 4:45 pm, Bob Stevens wrote: >Did the driver issue start after you installed Windows 98 SE on top of Windows 98? >I was thinking of doing the same thing, but if it creates driver issue's, I will >leave well enough alone. Sorry, I can't give you any advice on this problem. I know >Windows 98 has problems. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 5:02 pm Posted by Judy (1 messages posted) I am trying to find windsows 98 operating system to reinstall in a friends computer she has lost her disk and can not find it is there anyway I can download win98 from my computer to a disc On Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 4:21 pm, marc paskvan wrote: >About once every 10th boot up, I'll see the computer is having some difficulty and >have discovered that I need to boot into safe mode--if the comp hasn't done this >itself--where I can "Remove" usually one or two drivers in Device Manager. It's >either the monitor driver (Win98SE has no driver for my Magnavox so I use a Phillips >that's probably similar). But the other is--the more frequent offender--a driver >under "Disc Drives" that's for a Maxtor drive; only mine is of Korean manufacture...so >I wind up with two drivers for the hard drive. I Remove the offending drive(s), >restart, and I'm good to go for awhile. I'm running a Windows 98SE upgrade over >my old Win98 OEM version. I once tried to install a bigger hard drive, but it was >a Seagate. (That didn't work, it was used junk.) All this on my old eMachines 333cs, >which I use for internet (dialup), mainly. I also have an old 20 gig Buslink portable >storage USB drive, which has its own driver. I thought this might be the offender, >thinking the OS may no longer be recognizing it and trying to load a driver for it >off the hard drive list. I reloaded the Buslink driver, and still get that Maxtor >one on occaision. Well, I'm puzzled...and yep, annoyed, when it happens. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 11:17 pm Posted by bob wells (1636 messages posted) Bob, No reason to put off your upgrade because others have problems. The poster could have been having problems before the upgrade. Win98SE has more Drivers than Win98, so there is a better than even chance you'll have few driver issues unless you have installed much newer devices. I would reccommend backing up all your data files then do a clean install of Win98 followed by the upgrade to SE. Post back in a new thread if you have problems, but check out the link below for some good suggestions on your project. a target=_blank href="http://www.windows98.windowsreinstall.com/">http://www.windows98.windowsreinstall.com/ BW On Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 4:45 pm, Bob Stevens wrote: >Did the driver issue start after you installed Windows 98 SE on top of Windows 98? >I was thinking of doing the same thing, but if it creates driver issue's, I will >leave well enough alone. Sorry, I can't give you any advice on this problem. I know >Windows 98 has problems. > > > < [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 11:34 pm Posted by bob wells (1636 messages posted) Marc, If you have more than 1 driver listed for a device, open device Manager and remove Both of the listed drivers, then shut down and reboot. Disabling the Driver will not work in this instance. If you do not have a driver for a device, go to the manufacturer's Web Site and see if you can find one for your exact OS. Be sure to download installation info as well. If you need help finding drivers post back with Make, Serial # and Model # of the device. I'm running eMachine 333i with Win98 upgraded to Win98SE and have used many different monitors, including Flat Panel, with no problems. As far as the HDD, no specific driver is required, as Win98SE has adequate drivers for the HDD unless you've installed something very unique. BW On Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 4:21 pm, marc paskvan wrote: >About once every 10th boot up, I'll see the computer is having some difficulty and >have discovered that I need to boot into safe mode--if the comp hasn't done this >itself--where I can "Remove" usually one or two drivers in Device Manager. It's >either the monitor driver (Win98SE has no driver for my Magnavox so I use a Phillips >that's probably similar). But the other is--the more frequent offender--a driver >under "Disc Drives" that's for a Maxtor drive; only mine is of Korean manufacture...so >I wind up with two drivers for the hard drive. I Remove the offending drive(s), >restart, and I'm good to go for awhile. I'm running a Windows 98SE upgrade over >my old Win98 OEM version. I once tried to install a bigger hard drive, but it was >a Seagate. (That didn't work, it was used junk.) All this on my old eMachines 333cs, >which I use for internet (dialup), mainly. I also have an old 20 gig Buslink portable >storage USB drive, which has its own driver. I thought this might be the offender, >thinking the OS may no longer be recognizing it and trying to load a driver for it >off the hard drive list. I reloaded the Buslink driver, and still get that Maxtor >one on occaision. Well, I'm puzzled...and yep, annoyed, when it happens. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Thursday, June 14, 2007 at 12:02 am Posted by bob wells (1636 messages posted) Judy, You won't get much help tagging your problem onto someone else's thread. Please start a thread of your own. http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98 Click on this link, then click on "Start a New Message thread"of your own. BW On Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 5:02 pm, Judy wrote: > >I am trying to find windsows 98 operating system to reinstall in a friends computer >she has lost her disk and can not find it is there anyway I can download win98 from >my computer to a disc > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Thursday, June 14, 2007 at 5:29 am Posted by marc paskvan (12 messages posted) Well, Bob, I haven't had time to do anything about it yet, but plan to this weekend. Your suggestion seems to be what I'm doing already. Not being an ingrate, here! :) Perhaps, since my 'puter has been in use and has had many many changes/edits of the registry, there's something in there that's been overlooked. Can anyone recommend a good registry editor/troubleshooter? (As in; cheap or FREE) I'm familiar with tweaking it, but identifying trouble items is a drain. For instance Quick Time somehow came back from the dead and installed itself again! Oh well, maybe I'll be back Monday... :) Oh, as to monitor drivers; I bought a used monitor, the Magnavox, whose driver I can't even find on the free drivers site. On Wednesday, June 13, 2007 at 11:34 pm, bob wells wrote: >Marc, > >If you have more than 1 driver listed for a device, open device Manager and remove >Both of the listed drivers, then shut down and reboot. Disabling the Driver will >not work in this instance. > >If you do not have a driver for a device, go to the manufacturer's Web Site and see >if you can find one for your exact OS. Be sure to download installation info as well. > >If you need help finding drivers post back with Make, Serial # and Model # of the >device. > >I'm running eMachine 333i with Win98 upgraded to Win98SE and have used many different >monitors, including Flat Panel, with no problems. As far as the HDD, no specific >driver is required, as Win98SE has adequate drivers for the HDD unless you've installed >something very unique. > >BW > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Thursday, June 14, 2007 at 8:44 am Posted by bob wells (1636 messages posted) marc, If you'd post the info on your monitor, perhaps someone could help you find a driver for it. Without info you're stuck with what you can find. The best Registry tool I've found is available here "FREE". http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm Download RegSeeker from this site. It has a very good search function for finding Registry entries related to removed software. Be sure to activate the restore feature. It creates backups of removed items prior to deleting them. Untill you've used RegSeeker a few times, it's a good idea to do an independant backup of your registry before you run it. I've never had a problem with Reg seeker, but with the Windows Registry, you can't be too careful. BW On Thursday, June 14, 2007 at 5:29 am, marc paskvan wrote: > >Well, Bob, I haven't had time to do anything about it yet, but plan to this weekend. > Your suggestion seems to be what I'm doing already. Not being an ingrate, here! >:) Perhaps, since my 'puter has been in use and has had many many changes/edits >of the registry, there's something in there that's been overlooked. Can anyone recommend >a good registry editor/troubleshooter? (As in; cheap or FREE) I'm familiar with >tweaking it, but identifying trouble items is a drain. For instance Quick Time somehow >came back from the dead and installed itself again! Oh well, maybe I'll be back >Monday... :) >Oh, as to monitor drivers; I bought a used monitor, the Magnavox, whose driver I >can't even find on the free drivers site. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Win98 upgrade loads new drivers on its own Saturday, June 16, 2007 at 2:56 am Posted by Jacob6601 (2174 messages posted) Your magnovox was made by phillips, so you are on the right track there. Try looking closely on the back of it. That hardware (that's adding drivers) did leave entries in the registry, but I have always cleaned that manually -- hence the "bypass" I gave you. If you are going to try to fix the registry, back it up first; Search for the "Emergency Recovery Utility" (Eru.exe) on this forum to try to find a download (It is on some win9x CDs). 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