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re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Monday, June 18, 2007 at 1:40 pm Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted) Hi Ed. Do you have a CD burner? If so burn all the files to a CD. If not then you'll have a long process WinZipping to floppies. If there is a single file that is to big when zipped to fit on a floppy then make a WinZip Executable and use multiple floppies. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Monday, June 18, 2007 at 1:44 pm Posted by Steve (23811 messages posted) Network the Computers with Crossover cable, though Vista is not very easy at getting Networking Working, and you need the right Hardware on the 98 computer for that, a Network card, but many good Web Sites with tutorials. Burn data to CDR's, but you sound like you may not have the Hardware for that, since you didn't mention it, a CD Burner. Remove the Hard Drive from the 98 Computer, and install it as a Slave. Good Web sites with tutorials for this too. This is the easiest in my opinion. Takes about 15 minutes if you know what your doing, and if you don't can mess up the new Computer. Use a Linux Live CD in the 98 computer, you mount the 98 Drive, and copy to a USB Drive. Most the Linux Distros have the Drivers for USB Drives. Again though need Hardware, a USB Drive. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Monday, June 18, 2007 at 1:52 pm Posted by Ed (2 messages posted) No, I don't have a CD burner. And I don't think the new computer will have a floppy drive. Am I hosed, then? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Monday, June 18, 2007 at 2:19 pm Posted by bob wells (1636 messages posted) Ed, Try an external USB HDD enclosure. Approx $50.00. eliminates problems with old OS, but the files are still accessable. Can reformat later and use for storage/backup. BW On Monday, June 18, 2007 at 1:52 pm, Ed wrote: >No, I don't have a CD burner. And I don't think the new computer will have a floppy >drive. Am I hosed, then? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Monday, June 18, 2007 at 2:21 pm Posted by bob wells (1636 messages posted) Ed, Easier than transfer or messing around with a slave drive would be a USB external HDD enclosure. Approx $50.00, easy to connect and disconnect, plus no worries about the Operating system on the old HDD messing up your new system, possibly voiding the warranty. Though the files will still be available should you need them. Once you salvage what you need you can format the External and use it for Storage/Backup. Best use of an old HDD I've seen. Now, can Vista use what's on the HDD?? I have no idea and no intention of finding out. Sorry to hear that you invested in Uncle Bill's latest consumer ripoff. BW On Monday, June 18, 2007 at 12:24 pm, Ed wrote: >I have an old computer with Windows 98 (NOT Second Edition). I have just bought a >new computer that has Vista. Is there any way to move stuff from the old computer >to the new. All the portable and flash drives I've seen are only compatible with >Windows 98 SE. Is there anything I can do? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 4:43 pm Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) This is what I've done repeatedly in that situation. Take the drive out of the old computer. Swap the little jumper so the drive is configured as SLAVE. Wrap the old drive loosely in a plastic bag. Open up the new computer and connect the old drive to the unused plug on the IDE cable. If the IDE cable has only 1 plug then buy a 2 plug cable for $3. The old drive will probably appear as D:. Make a folder called OLD98 or something like that. Copy the entire old drive into that folder. Then at your leisure you'll figure out what you want to transfer. This takes me about 2 hours to do. I don't bother to screw the old drive into the mounting rack for such a short time. That's why I have the plastic bag. The old drive will be lying across the metal edge of the computer case and it has a bare circuit board underneath which could get shortcircuited if I didn't have the bag around it. Drives can overheat while they're running so I don't seal up the bag. I knew a guy who overruled me and set up a temporary network to transfer the data from one computer to another. It took him 2 weeks of weekends to do what I can do in 2 hours with just a screwdriver. On Monday, June 18, 2007 at 12:24 pm, Ed wrote: >I have an old computer with Windows 98 (NOT Second Edition). I have just bought a >new computer that has Vista. Is there any way to move stuff from the old computer >to the new. All the portable and flash drives I've seen are only compatible with >Windows 98 SE. Is there anything I can do? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Saturday, July 14, 2007 at 11:57 pm Posted by Ken T (1 messages posted) I tried this method of attaching the old hard drive to the new Vista Quad-Core PC, but it looks as though the cables are not the same. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks for the help! On Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 4:43 pm, dhm wrote: > >This is what I've done repeatedly in that situation. > > Take the drive out of the old computer. > Swap the little jumper so the drive is configured as SLAVE. > Wrap the old drive loosely in a plastic bag. > Open up the new computer and connect the old drive to the unused plug on the >IDE cable. > If the IDE cable has only 1 plug then buy a 2 plug cable for $3. > The old drive will probably appear as D:. > Make a folder called OLD98 or something like that. > Copy the entire old drive into that folder. > >Then at your leisure you'll figure out what you want to transfer. > >This takes me about 2 hours to do. I don't bother to screw the old drive into the >mounting rack for such a short time. That's why I have the plastic bag. The old >drive will be lying across the metal edge of the computer case and it has a bare >circuit board underneath which could get shortcircuited if I didn't have the bag >around it. Drives can overheat while they're running so I don't seal up the bag. > >I knew a guy who overruled me and set up a temporary network to transfer the data >from one computer to another. It took him 2 weeks of weekends to do what I can do >in 2 hours with just a screwdriver. > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Sunday, July 15, 2007 at 3:55 am Posted by dhm (1069 messages posted) I assumed both drives were on an IDE cable. From what you say, they've come up with some new arrangement that I hadn't heard about. There used to be a change in hard drive connection systems every 2 years (MSM and RLL were a couple old ones) but things have been standardized on IDE for about 10 years. There is a red wire on the IDE cable which is pin #1. You also have to connect one of the power connectors. Alternately, since motherboards have 2 IDE connectors, I figured you could use one of those. Alternately, the CD is on an IDE cable you could use that one since you won't need it during the operation. I also forgot to say that there is almost always a jumper diagram on a hard drive which shows how to configure it as a slave drive. In one case while the sticker clearly showed how to identify jumper #1 and which was the slave jumper, the sticker was oriented backwards which was counterintuitive. That gave me a headache and I eventually copied out the sticker in the visually, rather than just logically, correct order. Another hint: If you ever see an old 486 computer thrown out, there are a few recoverable items. The fan from the power supply has the same bolt pattern as any cooling fan -- that was standardized 20 years ago. And it's a $6 item from a store. There are 1 to 2 dozen jumpers on a 486 system. Some of them in visible colors other than black. Take them all out and put them in a jar somewhere. Then you never have to fear dropping a jumper and losing it. Get all those mounting screws. I don't know what the thread specs are for them -- metric or Mongolian or whatever. I just know that I have all I need in the jar with the extra jumpers. Good luck. On Saturday, July 14, 2007 at 11:57 pm, Ken T wrote: >I tried this method of attaching the old hard drive to the new Vista Quad-Core PC, >but it looks as though the cables are not the same. Am I doing something wrong? > >Thanks for the help! > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Moving stuff from Windows 98 to Vista Sunday, July 15, 2007 at 9:00 am Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted) |There used to be a change in hard drive connection systems every 2 years | dhm | Way, WAY back when. |(MSM | MFM (Multi-Frequency Modulation) |and RLL were a couple old ones) |but things have been standardized on IDE for about 10 years. | ...and IDE == ARLL (Advanced Run Length Limited) For a while, SCSI looked like the Great White Hope; advancements in platter densities and interface speeds soon made it unnecessary. |I also forgot to say that there is almost always a jumper diagram on a hard drive |which shows how to configure it as a slave drive. | So YOU'RE the one who's getting all of those. 8-) |In one case[...]the sticker was oriented backwards | >8-| Grrrr. Thanks, guys. |If you ever see an old 486 computer thrown out, there are a few recoverable items. |[...]mounting screws. I don't know what the thread specs are for them[...] | The ones I have encountered have been 6-32. All the Mongolian ones must be going to Florida. 8-) [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows 98 Discussion Forum