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re: I need to prevent users from making changes, w98 lockdown Monday, October 1, 2007 at 9:53 am Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted) |I need to secure several W98SE PC's from end users |deleting/installing software, changing settings and password protect shutdown, etc. | curt | Anything DOS-based has pretty rotten "security". You can *improve* the miserable default-install "security" a bit. cache of http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1186790880 ++poledit+NoLogon+System.Policy.Editor |[...]TweakUI[...] | UI == User Interface == eye candy / convenience (NOT security) |[...]do I need some other software? | An NT-based OS is marginally better--but the "security" of anything Micros~1 produces can easily be defeated with a bootable Linux CD / thumbdrive. If you are looking for REAL security, you are going to have to break the M$ mindset and get something UNIX-based. (Security-wise, an out-of-the-box Ubuntu Linux install beats anything MSFT ever devised --even after Windoze has been "thoroughly" tweaked.) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: I need to prevent users from making changes, w98 lockdown Monday, October 1, 2007 at 2:19 pm Posted by Steve (23811 messages posted) The Linux Live Boot CD's even make access to Folders on a Hard Drive installed Linux PC pretty easy. I used Puppy Linux Live CD for about a year on a SuSE Computer, and would just mount the SuSe Drive to access the Home Folder when I wanted something. I kind of wonder if any unencrypted data is really safe from a Live CD [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: I need to prevent users from making changes, w98 lockdown Monday, October 1, 2007 at 3:21 pm Posted by curt (2 messages posted) Thanx for your replies, but *nix is not an option in this case nor is hard core security an issue. We are trying to teach kids typing and some basic computer skills and need an MS environment. I just need to stop them from hosing the environment they're supposed to be learning. I know it's possible, my previous employer used W98 systems for time clocks and had it tamper proof. On Monday, October 1, 2007 at 9:53 am, gewg_ wrote: >|I need to secure several W98SE PC's from end users >|deleting/installing software, changing settings and password protect shutdown, etc. >| curt >| >Anything DOS-based has pretty rotten "security". >You can *improve* the miserable default-install "security" a bit. >cache of http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1186790880 >++poledit+NoLogon+System.Policy.Editor > >|[...]TweakUI[...] >| >UI == User Interface == eye candy / convenience (NOT security) > >|[...]do I need some other software? >| >An NT-based OS is marginally better--but the "security" of anything Micros~1 produces >can easily be defeated with a bootable Linux CD / thumbdrive. > >If you are looking for REAL security, >you are going to have to break the M$ mindset and get something UNIX-based. >(Security-wise, an out-of-the-box Ubuntu Linux install beats anything MSFT ever devised >--even after Windoze has been "thoroughly" tweaked.) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: I need to prevent users from making changes, w98 lockdown Monday, October 1, 2007 at 10:53 pm Posted by bob wells (1636 messages posted) Deep freeze seems to address the issue you posted, unfortunately it's not free. Check the link below. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/netsys/article.php/11075_907781_2 Good luck. BW There's nothing to learn from someone who already agrees with you. _________________________________________________________ On Monday, October 1, 2007 at 8:55 am, curt wrote: >I need to secure several W98SE PC's from end users deleting/installing software, >changing settings and password protect shutdown, etc... I know TweakUI has some functions, >but not enough. Unless I'm missing something? Or do I need some other software? > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: I need to prevent users from making changes, w98 lockdown Tuesday, October 2, 2007 at 4:32 am Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted) Hi Curt. Well you can change thing in the registry that will stop user accessing certain areas. There was a program called RegTune.exe that used to allow you to change these settings for you. But anyone could use this program if you know where its located. I program in Visual Basic and I've made a program that has the same features RegTune.exe but with mine you can have a username and a password to access these options. RegTune.exe it isn't free but if you do a search you will find some crack serial numbers. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: I need to prevent users from making changes, w98 lockdown Wednesday, October 3, 2007 at 9:24 am Posted by heh heh (11 messages posted) WIndowsguard is free and a fairly effective deterrent from any one making changes on your computer, also, there is some desktop locking software out there. live Linux live cd's are tough but most people don't use or know about them. On Monday, October 1, 2007 at 8:55 am, curt wrote: >I need to secure several W98SE PC's from end users deleting/installing software, >changing settings and password protect shutdown, etc... I know TweakUI has some functions, >but not enough. Unless I'm missing something? Or do I need some other software? > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: I need to prevent users from making changes, w98 lockdown Thursday, October 4, 2007 at 8:07 am Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted) heh heh wrote: |WIndowsguard is free | True. |and a fairly effective deterrent from any one making changes on your computer, | ...unless someone has access to, say, a search engine. Yet more easily-defeated pseudo-security. cache of http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/WindowsGuard_2007/1032680287/1 ++Protection-is-easily-bypassed-by-opening-Task-Manager.and-killing-the+wgpro.exe+process Look at the oldest comment there. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Heh Heh is right - WindowsGuard will do what you need Saturday, October 6, 2007 at 4:39 pm Posted by Joe Hepperle (73 messages posted) WindowsGuard will do what you need and it is free. I'm not sure why the suggestion that WindowsGuard is not secure is in the previous post. The link provided in that post has a comment from a user of the program that, "Protection is easily bypassed by opening Task Manager and killing the wgpro.exe process" That may seem to suggest that WindowsGuard is not secure but further reading shows that to be wrong. The very next comment at that link says, "To fix that, just add 'Windows Task Manager' to the blocked programs list." Sounds good to me! I think I'm going to download WindowsGuard (It's FREE!) to use on my kids' computer. 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