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re: drivers for usb card Tuesday, October 9, 2007 at 8:25 am Posted by Joe Hepperle (73 messages posted) If it is rated for Windows98, it should have worked. To help figure it out, what brand and model number is it? Joe Hepperle [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 2:32 pm Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) Sounds like you bought a USB card that's not compatible with Windows 98. You need to buy a USB card that comes with a driver file for Windows 98. The box will be clearly marked "Windows 98" if the card comes with a driver file for Windows 98. In practice, these driver files only work with Win 98 Second Edition, and do not work with the original "first edition" release of Windows 98 (a.k.a. "Windows 98 Gold"). Ed On Thursday, October 4, 2007 at 4:23 pm, J Johsnsson wrote: >I have just installed a usb card. At the end of installation which ended with "finish", >I restarted the computer. I tried to read the usb memory, I got a reply that the >usb had no drivers. I was asked to put a cd so that the drivers could be extracted >from there. I tried bot Windows 98SE cd and the cd that came with the usb card. > I did not succeed. The usn memory of type flash. Where did I go wrong? Help somebody! > Jane [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 10:09 pm Posted by Joe Hepperle (73 messages posted) Jane: What might have happened is this: Some USB driver install files do not actually INSTALL the drivers, but rather they just extract the driver files to a folder on your hard drive. It is quite possible that your driver files are in a folder on your hard drive and when it asked for a CD, or the location of the driver files, you were supposed to point it to those files. Try this: Go to your driver install file, and click (or double-click) on it again, then pay attention. The very next screen that comes up should show the 'default' location where it will extract the files to, unless you manually type in a different location. If that is what you see, then close that out, and go to where it asks you for the location of the driver files, and point it to the folder you saw. As an example, my Lexar USB driver install does not actually install the driver files but rather it just extracts them to folder c:\jdusb2 Then when I plug in my flash drive it pops up the window asking for where the driver files are at. This is why I asked what make and model you had... Joe Hepperle ************************** ************************** On Thursday, October 4, 2007 at 4:23 pm, J Johsnsson wrote: >I have just installed a usb card. At the end of installation which ended with "finish", >I restarted the computer. I tried to read the usb memory, I got a reply that the >usb had no drivers. I was asked to put a cd so that the drivers could be extracted >from there. I tried bot Windows 98SE cd and the cd that came with the usb card. > I did not succeed. The usn memory of type flash. Where did I go wrong? Help somebody! > Jane [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 9:14 pm Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) Another possible solution is to open the Device Manager - START > SETTINGS > CONTROL PANEL > SYSTEM > DEVICE MANAGER In Device Manager - 1. Click on the "+" sign next to 'Universal Serial Bus Controllers'. 2. Click on an entry under that heading (to highlight it) that shows as faulty, then delete the entry by clicking "Remove". i.e. Remove any entry with a yellow exclamation mark (which indicates a fault) or a yellow question mark (which indicates an unrecognised device) against it. Then reboot. Windows will automatically re-install the correct drivers in the course of the reboot. If you are asked to point the install wizard to the location of the proper driver file, it is probably in one of these folders - C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS Installation programs often dump the drivers in one or other of those four locations by default. Ed On Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 9:09 pm, Joe Hepperle wrote: > >Jane: > >What might have happened is this: > >Some USB driver install files do not actually INSTALL the drivers, but rather they >just extract the driver files to a folder on your hard drive. It is quite possible >that your driver files are in a folder on your hard drive and when it asked for a >CD, or the location of the driver files, you were supposed to point it to those files. > >Try this: Go to your driver install file, and click (or double-click) on it again, >then pay attention. The very next screen that comes up should show the 'default' >location where it will extract the files to, unless you manually type in a different >location. If that is what you see, then close that out, and go to where it asks you >for the location of the driver files, and point it to the folder you saw. > >As an example, my Lexar USB driver install does not actually install the driver files >but rather it just extracts them to folder c:\jdusb2 > >Then when I plug in my flash drive it pops up the window asking for where the driver >files are at. > >This is why I asked what make and model you had... > >Joe Hepperle > >************************** >************************** > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Jane! Are you there? Friday, November 2, 2007 at 12:06 am Posted by Joe Hepperle (73 messages posted) Jane: Ed gave a good possible solution. Joe gave a good possible solution. Did either one work? Joe Hepperle [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Sunday, November 4, 2007 at 8:34 am Posted by J Johansson (2 messages posted) I beg your pardon. I have been unable to sit by this computer, hence my dead silence. Here I am at last! O.System Windows 98SE. Rated for Windows 98 SE Thank you so much for your quick response.. Jane On Tuesday, October 9, 2007 at 8:25 am, Joe Hepperle wrote: >If it is rated for Windows98, it should have worked. To help figure it out, what >brand and model number is it? > >Joe Hepperle [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Friday, November 9, 2007 at 6:00 am Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) I think what Joe was asking was: what is the name of the manufacturer of your faulty computer, and what is the model number (if any) of that computer. Look for those details on a small metal plate affixed to the rear of the computer's case, next to the power lead socket. Joe already knows that you are using the Windows 98 operating system! Ed On Sunday, November 4, 2007 at 8:34 am, J Johansson wrote: >I beg your pardon. I have been unable to sit by this computer, hence my dead silence. > Here I am at last! >O.System Windows 98SE. Rated for Windows 98 SE >Thank you so much for your quick response.. Jane > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 1:37 am Posted by J Johansson (2 messages posted) Computer Vision MASTER, SP 166 MMX Intel inside Pentium (r). Thank you for your trouble. Janet On Friday, November 9, 2007 at 6:00 am, Ed wrote: >I think what Joe was asking was: what is the name of the manufacturer of your faulty >computer, and what is the model number (if any) of that computer. > >Look for those details on a small metal plate affixed to the rear of the computer's >case, next to the power lead socket. > >Joe already knows that you are using the Windows 98 operating system! > >Ed > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 8:03 am Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) As Windows 98 does not have built-in support for USB 2.0, you must install an add-in USB 2.0 PCI Card and a Windows 98 compatible driver. It is prudent to buy a PCI card that (a) has an NEC chipset, as that chipset has the widest compatibility with older motherboards, and (b) that comes with a driver file for Windows 98. Such third party drivers ONLY work with Win 98SE (Second Edition), not with the original "first edition" release of Windows 98, a.k.a. "Windows 98 Gold". In practice, to use an add-on USB 2.0 PCI card in Windows 98 you must buy one that comes with a USB 2.0 driver file for Windows 98. Not all of them come with that. You may have bought the wrong type! Subject to that, start the computer normally and then open the Device Manager: Go to START > SETTINGS > CONTROL PANEL > SYSTEM and click on the tab marked "Device Manager". Look at the entry for the USB device. Is there a yellow exclamation mark or a question mark against it? If so, proceed as follows. Windows 98 wants to update the driver: The reason why there is a question mark or exclamation mark is that Windows 98 needs to update the driver, because you are currently using the WRONG driver file or because no driver file has been installed. You may need to obtain a driver file from the Card's manufacturer, a file that is actually *stated* to be for use with Windows 98. The current driver file you have (if any) is NOT for Windows 98 if it is not being recognised by Device Manager. Go to the website of the Card's manufacturer and download a driver file for Windows 98 to your Desktop. Try manually updating the driver: Highlight the device in question in Device Manager, then click PROPERTIES and go through the procedure for manually updating the driver. Manufacturers typically supply several driver files, and it is possible you have installed the wrong one. The newest driver is NOT necessarily the one to go for. You may need to install an older one, dated prior to the release of Windows XP. Some possible locations to point the update function (i.e. the update wizard) to, when trying to find the correct file, are:   C:\WINDOWS   C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM   C:\WINDOWS\IOSUBSYS   C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS An alternative: Delete the Card's entry in Device Manager, and reboot. On the reboot the plug-and-play wizard will automatically re-install the Card with the correct drivers, if they exist on your system. Another alternative: Reboot into SAFE mode (press F5 or F8 on restarting the computer) and open Device Manager. Delete any "ghost" entries (those which only show up in Safe Mode), as they can cause a conflict with other installed device drivers. Then reboot normally. Note - Sometimes a deletion of ONLY the "ghost" entries is not effective, in which case a possible solution is to delete ALL devices, *including* the "ghost" entries, from Device Manager, while in Safe Mode; and then reboot normally. You MUST have all of the disks that came with each device on hand, in order to reinstall the devices! In the unlikely event that something goes wrong you will be able to reload one of the five backups of your Windows Registry, using the SCANREG /RESTORE command at the DOS prompt. Ed On Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 1:37 am, J Johansson wrote: >Computer Vision MASTER, SP 166 MMX > Intel inside Pentium (r). Thank you for your trouble. Janet > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 2:38 pm Posted by J Johsnsson (3 messages posted) Annoyance: Ed. 1. The subject is a Viscom USB 20 4-Port PCI Card. Came with drivers on a CD which I installed once the PCI card was in pace. 2.The PCI card is for Windows 98 SE, Me, 200 and XP, This computer’s OS is a Win. 98 SE. 3.Check in the Device Manager for an exclamation mark on the usb device. There are no remarks all seem well. 4.Delete files and restart computer. I did this well before I appealed for help, even though the drivers had no yellow remarks against them. 5. In the Device Manager Select the device for updating. I did this as well and the computers reaction to this was: “The drivers are up-to-date.” 6. In addition, the PCI card was purchased from and in consultation with a licensed Microsoft technician with many years of experience. The pity thing is I bought this from him on the other side of the globe · Features of the USB 2.0 · externa USB2.0 ports · EHCI based 480 Mbps USB 2.0 compliant · OHCI based 12 Mbps USB 1.1 compliant · USB ports auto speed selectable · Each port supplies 500 mA power · Support both USB 2.0 and 1.1 devices · Easy plug and play installation and device connection · Fully backward compatible with USB 1.1/1.0 devices · USB 2.0 high-speed drivers for Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 & XP 7.The question in my mind : Why do I not see an additional drive in my computer? Surely as well as we have drive C, D, printer, including the Zip drive which is assigned drive E, there should be a drive F for the USB. Should this not come automatically after the installation of the PCI? Could this be the reason why the computer cannot identify the memory when I plug it in? The usb memory I am trying to plug in is a USB 2.0 Flash Disk USB2.0 Many thanks. Janet On Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 8:03 am, Ed wrote: >As Windows 98 does not have built-in support for USB 2.0, you must install an add-in >USB 2.0 PCI Card and a Windows 98 compatible driver. > >It is prudent to buy a PCI card that (a) has an NEC chipset, as that chipset has >the widest compatibility with older motherboards, and (b) that comes with a driver >file for Windows 98. > >Such third party drivers ONLY work with Win 98SE (Second Edition), not with the original >"first edition" release of Windows 98, a.k.a. "Windows 98 Gold". > >In practice, to use an add-on USB 2.0 PCI card in Windows 98 you must buy one that >comes with a USB 2.0 driver file for Windows 98. Not all of them come with >that. You may have bought the wrong type! > > >Subject to that, start the computer normally and then open the Device Manager: Go >to START > SETTINGS > CONTROL PANEL > SYSTEM and click on the tab marked "Device >Manager". > >Look at the entry for the USB device. Is there a yellow exclamation mark or a question >mark against it? If so, proceed as follows. > > >Windows 98 wants to update the driver: > >The reason why there is a question mark or exclamation mark is that Windows 98 needs >to update the driver, because you are currently using the WRONG driver file or because >no driver file has been installed. > >You may need to obtain a driver file from the Card's manufacturer, a file that is >actually *stated* to be for use with Windows 98. > >The current driver file you have (if any) is NOT for Windows 98 if it is not being >recognised by Device Manager. > >Go to the website of the Card's manufacturer and download a driver file for Windows >98 to your Desktop. > > >Try manually updating the driver: > >Highlight the device in question in Device Manager, then click PROPERTIES and go >through the procedure for manually updating the driver. Manufacturers typically supply >several driver files, and it is possible you have installed the wrong one. > >The newest driver is NOT necessarily the one to go for. You may need to install an >older one, dated prior to the release of Windows XP. > >Some possible locations to point the update function (i.e. the update wizard) to, >when trying to find the correct file, are: > >  C:\WINDOWS >  C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM >  C:\WINDOWS\IOSUBSYS >  C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS > > >An alternative: Delete the Card's entry in Device Manager, and reboot. On the reboot >the plug-and-play wizard will automatically re-install the Card with the correct >drivers, if they exist on your system. > > >Another alternative: Reboot into SAFE mode (press F5 or F8 on restarting the computer) >and open Device Manager. Delete any "ghost" entries (those which only show up in >Safe Mode), as they can cause a conflict with other installed device drivers. Then >reboot normally. > >Note - Sometimes a deletion of ONLY the "ghost" entries is not effective, in which >case a possible solution is to delete ALL devices, *including* the "ghost" entries, >from Device Manager, while in Safe Mode; and then reboot normally. You MUST have >all of the disks that came with each device on hand, in order to reinstall the devices! > > >In the unlikely event that something goes wrong you will be able to reload one of >the five backups of your Windows Registry, using the SCANREG /RESTORE command >at the DOS prompt. > >Ed > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Monday, November 12, 2007 at 2:08 pm Posted by J Johsnsson (3 messages posted) Joe, I thank u for the replies. IYesterday I posted a long message to Ed, I hope you will also read it as I not permited to give a similar answer twice. No disrepect meant. Indeed with all the easy-to-understand, descriptive messages you and Ed have posted I agree it should work but it has not. I am still not giving up on my old friend - computer. I hope to extend her/his life. Thanks for being helpful. Jane On Tuesday, October 9, 2007 at 8:25 am, Joe Hepperle wrote: >If it is rated for Windows98, it should have worked. To help figure it out, what >brand and model number is it? > >Joe Hepperle [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: drivers for usb card Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 1:02 pm Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) Sorry for the delay in replying. I was off having a think about the problem. Firstly, anti-static precautions: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winme/1176533789 Secondly, you need to be aware that USB 2.0 PCI cards are not freely interchangeable. A PCI card with USB 2.0 ports will be incompatible with some motherboards. This is a fact of life! To have the best chance of success, fit a PCI card which has an NEC chipset on it. These cards have the widest compatibility with the many different types of motherboard found in Win98 computers. Thirdly, your comment "Came with drivers on a CD which I installed once the PCI card was in pace". Bad move! Standard procedure is to always install the software first, then switch off; install the PCI card; then start up normally. You can still do that. Uninstall the software, take out the PCI card with the computer switched off, and try that. While doing so, you might cure the fault anyway, if the fault is... Fourthly, the fault may be that the PCI card is not properly seated in the slot. So take it out and try again, paying careful attention to the seating of the connector in the motherboard slot. Finally, you will NOT see an extra drive in the computer, until you plug something into the USB ports! A USB port is NOT a drive. It is merely an empty port. You wouldn't expect to see your printer if it wasn't plugged into the computer, would you? Ed On Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 2:38 pm, J Johsnsson wrote: >Annoyance: Ed. >1. The subject is a Viscom USB 20 4-Port PCI Card. >Came with drivers on a CD which I installed once the PCI card was in pace. > >2.The PCI card is for Windows 98 SE, Me, 200 and XP, This computer’s OS is a >Win. 98 SE. >3.Check in the Device Manager for an exclamation mark on the usb device. There are >no remarks all seem well. > >4.Delete files and restart computer. I did this well before I appealed for help, >even though the drivers had no yellow remarks against them. > >5. In the Device Manager Select the device for updating. I did this as well and >the computers reaction to this was: “The drivers are up-to-date.” > >6. In addition, the PCI card was purchased from and in consultation with a licensed >Microsoft technician with many years of experience. The pity thing is I bought this >from him on the other side of the globe > >· Features of the USB 2.0 > >· externa USB2.0 ports > >· EHCI based 480 Mbps USB 2.0 compliant > >· OHCI based 12 Mbps USB 1.1 compliant > >· USB ports auto speed selectable > >· Each port supplies 500 mA power > >· Support both USB 2.0 and 1.1 devices > >· Easy plug and play installation and device connection > >· Fully backward compatible with USB 1.1/1.0 devices > >· USB 2.0 high-speed drivers for Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 & XP >7.The question in my mind : Why do I not see an additional drive in my computer? > Surely as well as we have drive C, D, printer, including the Zip drive which is >assigned drive E, there should be a drive F for the USB. Should this not come automatically >after the installation of the PCI? Could this be the reason why the computer cannot >identify the memory when I plug it in? >The usb memory I am trying to plug in is a USB 2.0 Flash Disk USB2.0 >Many thanks. 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