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computer freeze at desktop
Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Mark (49 messages posted)

When I start up the computer, it will make it to the desktop. Load all the icons, then the curser will sit there w/hourglass for about five seconds and then freeze. Ctrl-Alt-Del does nothing. I have to hit the reset button. If it helps, here are some specs: Via Technologies Inc. computer, Win98SE, Celeron 900MHz, 256mb ram, nVidia Vanta 64mb and an AOpen AX34-U Motherboard. I can, and have run anti-virus, (Anti-Vir) spybot, adaware, Ccleaner and the system cleaner in "Safe mode" Also I have NOT installed any new hardware in the last two-three years. The computer will freeze at the very same spot and tme EVERY time. Any help would be appreciated.

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)

|I can, and have run anti-virus, (Anti-Vir) spybot, adaware, Ccleaner
|and the system cleaner in "Safe mode"
|Also I have NOT installed any new hardware in the last two-three years.
| Mark

Tried the oldest trick in the book? 
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++SCANREG/RESTORE

As important as the Registry is to Windoze, it is incredibly fragile.
Tweaking your box or adding apps will alter it
--then again, simple "Bit 
Rot" may bork it.


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re: computer freeze at desktop
Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Mark (49 messages posted)

I tried the scanreg/restore. It showed five dates: 01/07/08, 01/02/08, 01/01/08, 12/29/07, 12/27/07. Where the 08's came from, I don't have a clue. Same with the 12/29/07! The 12/27/07 failed. So I tried the 01/01/08. It loaded just about every thing, and was running for about a minute longer than previous startups. Then froze. I restarted and about five seconds after loading the icons it froze. Again Ctrl-Alt-Del did no good.


On Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 4:20 pm, Mark wrote:
>When I start up the computer, it will make it to the desktop. Load all the icons,
>then the curser will sit there w/hourglass for about five seconds and then freeze.
>Ctrl-Alt-Del does nothing. I have to hit the reset button. If it helps, here are
>some specs: Via Technologies Inc. computer, Win98SE, Celeron 900MHz, 256mb ram, nVidia
>Vanta 64mb and an AOpen AX34-U Motherboard. I can, and have run anti-virus, (Anti-Vir)
>spybot, adaware, Ccleaner and the system cleaner in "Safe mode" Also I have NOT installed
>any new hardware in the last two-three years. The computer will freeze at the very
>same spot and tme EVERY time. Any help would be appreciated.

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Posted by Mark (49 messages posted)

I also tried the bootlog. The only thing it showed failure in, was C:\WINDOWS\System\MRCI.vxd and a whole bunch of font (.fon) and .TTF's.


On Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 5:46 pm, Mark wrote:
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>I tried the scanreg/restore. It showed five dates: 01/07/08, 01/02/08, 01/01/08,
>12/29/07, 12/27/07. Where the 08's came from, I don't have a clue. Same with the
>12/29/07! The 12/27/07 failed. So I tried the 01/01/08. It loaded just about every
>thing, and was running for about a minute longer than previous startups. Then froze.
>I restarted and about five seconds after loading the icons it froze. Again Ctrl-Alt-Del
>did no good.
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re: computer freeze at desktop
Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)

|I also tried the bootlog.
|The only thing it showed failure in, was C:\WINDOWS\System\MRCI.vxd [...]
| Mark
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It sounds like at one time you were low on disk space
and got a REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD idea.
Total hard disk compression is an excellent way to not only screw up your system,
but lose all your data as well.
http://www.google.com/search?q=MRCI.vxd+Microsoft-Realtime-Compression-Interface

If you're not completely insane and aren't truly into self-abuse,
then there's no reason to be loading that junk. 
The Usenet Archive -- "Microsoft-Realtime-Compression-Interface"...


Get rid of ANY useless junk that is loading:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1127247347

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Posted by Mark (49 messages posted)

This harddrive is not and has not ever been compressed. I did rewrite two lines, drvspace.bin to drvspace.old and dblspace.bin to dblspace.old. The bootlog does not show that load failure (C:\WINDOWS\System\MRCI.vxd) anymore. I am however suspecting the video card.


On Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 8:05 pm, gewg_ wrote:
>|I also tried the bootlog.
>|The only thing it showed failure in, was C:\WINDOWS\System\MRCI.vxd [...]
>| Mark
>|
>It sounds like at one time you were low on disk space
>and got a REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD idea.
>Total hard disk compression is an excellent way to not only screw up your system,
>but lose all your data as well.
>http://www.google.com/search?q=MRCI.vxd+Microsoft-Realtime-Compression-Interface
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>If you're not completely insane and aren't truly into self-abuse,
>then there's no reason to be loading that junk.
>The Usenet Archive -- "Microsoft-Realtime-Compression-Interface"...

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>Get rid of ANY useless junk that is loading:
>http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1127247347

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Mark (49 messages posted)

Also, the only things running at startup are Explorer, SysTray and Scanreg. I even disabled the Anti-Virus.


On Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 11:28 pm, Mark wrote:
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>This harddrive is not and has not ever been compressed. I did rewrite two lines,
>drvspace.bin to drvspace.old and dblspace.bin to dblspace.old. The bootlog does not
>show that load failure (C:\WINDOWS\System\MRCI.vxd) anymore. I am however suspecting
>the video card.
>
>

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Friday, December 28, 2007 at 4:31 am
Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted)




On Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 11:42 pm, Mark wrote: |Also, the only things running at startup are Explorer, SysTray and Scanreg. Scanreg shouldn't be running its the DOS program that restores the registry. Have you run Msconfig in Safe Mode? This will tell you what is running on startup. The only two things you need running for Windows to operate is Explorer and SysTray. By default Win98 only makes 5 backups for the registry that you can restore. If you want to make more then just open C:\Windows\Scanreg.ini with NotePad and in MaxBackupCopies=5 just change it to the number of backups you want to store. Mine is set to 14 but the only problem with this is you don't see 14 backup dates, you only see 6 or 7. But you could always startup in Safe Mode and move some of the rb000.cab files you don't need to another folder.

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Friday, December 28, 2007 at 7:17 am
Posted by Mark (49 messages posted)

Yes I have run msconfig in safe mode. It shows only Explorer running.


On Friday, December 28, 2007 at 4:31 am, Keith Stanier wrote:
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re: computer freeze at desktop
Friday, December 28, 2007 at 8:41 am
Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)

|Scanreg shouldn't be running
| Keith Stanier
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Nonsense.  If you disable this, no new Registry backups will ever be made.

|its the DOS program that restores the registry.
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What you have said is true
--but you're not telling the whole story (assumes you know the whole story).

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Friday, December 28, 2007 at 8:52 am
Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)

|the only things running at startup are Explorer, SysTray and Scanreg.
| Mark
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Some people use their scanners (or stuff like that) a lot
and do have a viable reason to have that software auto-load,
but there is no reason for most folks to have most junk slow down Startup.

|I even disabled the Anti-Virus.
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I only crank up my malware killers every few weeks
--but I think about what I'm doing on my computer (and elsewhere)
before I do things.

I find that IF you use the proper caution, 
cache of http://techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show327#toc3
keeping resource-hog CYA[1] apps running all the time is a waste;
it's the folks that are senseless in the rest of their lives
who need this kind of pseudo-security blanket.[2]


[1] Cover Your @$$

[2] ...and their bad practices will get them in deep $#!+ before long anyway.
If they are lax with their malware killer updates--or even if they're not[3]--
it's just a matter of time before those types get infected.

[3] There's a latency between when a new exploit is released into the wild
and the availability of an update to deal with it.
(See the last part of The Tech Guy's Rule #3.)

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re: computer freeze at desktop
Friday, December 28, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted)




On Friday, December 28, 2007 at 8:41 am, gewg_ wrote: |Scanreg shouldn't be running | Keith Stanier |Nonsense. If you disable this, no new Registry backups will ever be made. Bull shit gewg the thing that makes your registry backups is C:\Windows\Scanregw.exe every time Windows startup on a NEW day. This is in the Run section C:\Windows\scanregw.exe /autorun I've used Ctrl+Alt+Del and Scanreg never shows up. I've been in the registry and is doesn't show in there either. Just try searching for Scanreg in the registry. The only reference to it is for Scanregw.exe. You can run this file anytime you want to make a new backup.

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