Hello all Hope someone out there can help me. I have a very old laptop its a Panasonic cf25 toughbook running with 166mhtz cpu. I have windows 98se installed and I have spent a bit of time getting all the right drivers and some updates to make it all work. The problem is that the laptop has pcmcia port with 3 slots, and only a floppy drive, and 32megs of ram.(like I said ITS OLD) I have installed the pcmcia drivers for each slot by going into device manager and then updating the driver, windows finds the driver installs the driver and then the yrllow icon on the device manager goes away, Seems like everything is fine. I plug my pcmcia to usb 2.0 card in and windows detects it and then asks for the drivers, i give it the drivers and it installs them and then tells me I have to reboot to have the changes take effect. then after the boot the drivers for the pcmcia slots are gone and the yellow icons are back on the device manager. Is there a way I can install these drivers manually or a way to remove the ones windows starts with? I am not against having to run a batch file with every boot up. I am willing to do whatever it takes to make the pcmcia slots work, without them I basically have no communication with the outside world on that laptop. Thank you for taking the time to read my post. Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may offer. if you need more info please ask me. Lokinb

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|I have installed the pcmcia drivers for each slot
|by going into device manager and then updating the driver[.]
|[W]indows finds the driver[,] installs the driver[, ...]
|then the [yellow] icon on the device manager goes away
| Lokinb

The whole *Update Driver* thing is a hair-trigger booby trap IMO.
...and NEVER install **over** a broken driver.
Windoze often lies to you and continues to use the same old screwed-up driver.
Download the driver you need,
highlight the defective device driver and REMOVE it,
(reboot optional) **THEN** install the driver again.


|then tells me I have to reboot to have the changes take effect.
|
Dontcha just love Windoze?  8-(
The only time you HAVE to reboot the typical Linux box[1]
is when you install a whole new kernel (like going from W98FE to W98SE).


[1] A Linux "Kernel panic" is A LOT more rare than the Windoze BSoD.

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The only recommended method of dealing with the yellow splats of the Device Mangler is to remove them all including any similar devices that are working fine and then reboot to allow Windows to find the hardware and properly install the drivers for it. When it comes to the Device Mangler it seems one can not remove enough devices so the remotest related device to a troubled device should also be removed even if it is shown to be working just fine. I would remove even your PCI bridge and or any other PCI thingy (technical term) under System Devices too.

We can hope that once it's been done up the right way just a couple of times your problem with forgotten drivers may just go away on it's own?

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