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Floppy transfer
Monday, April 14, 2008 at 4:39 am
Posted by Marina (100 messages posted)

I want to transfer the data of a floppy to a cd. I am about to buy a newer computer that does not have the slot for floppy. I know that I need the software CD writer for that procedure. There is on the web to download for free. How safe is that free download? Thanks for any response.

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re: Floppy transfer
Monday, April 14, 2008 at 9:55 am
Posted by gewg_ (3491 messages posted)

|I want to transfer the data of a floppy to a cd.
|I am about to buy a newer computer that does not have the slot for floppy. 
| Marina
|
Sometimes "progress" ISN'T.

|I know that I need the software CD writer for that procedure.
|
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re: Floppy transfer
Monday, April 14, 2008 at 11:56 am
Posted by jack hall (681 messages posted)

Marina, If it's only one floppy, then it's 1.44 megs or less.


On your old computer create a folder, and give it a name. Copy the floppy data to the folder, then, if you have a zipping tool, zip it, and email it to a friend, and have that party archive and save it. When your new equipment is up and running, just have him or her send it back. Then burn it on your new equipment.


On Monday, April 14, 2008 at 4:39 am, Marina wrote:
>I want to transfer the data of a floppy to a cd.
>I am about to buy a newer computer that does not have the slot for floppy.
>I know that I need the software CD writer for that procedure. There is on the web
>to download for free. How safe is that free download?
>Thanks for any response.

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re: Floppy transfer
Monday, April 14, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Marina (3 messages posted)

I have more than one floppy. In some of the floppy there are some pictures that I saved and want to transfer to the new computer. How do I know if I have the zip tools? Thanks for your help. Marina.


On Monday, April 14, 2008 at 11:56 am, jack hall wrote:
>Marina,
>If it's only one floppy, then it's 1.44 megs or less.

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re: Floppy transfer
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 4:40 am
Posted by Keith Stanier (1002 messages posted)

Hi Marina.

What I would do if I were you is buy a USB Flash Drive/Pen. You will need one that 
is Win98SE compatable. Meaning it comes with software or you can download software 
for use on Win98SE, there are loads available.

I have 7 Kingston and 3 PQI drives. The 2GB Kingston is the biggest drive they do 
for Win98 and they are quite cheap. I've just bought 2 of eBay for £13 with P&P. 
Do a search on eBay.

Then you will be able to drag and drop all the files you want to save/transfer onto 
the flash drive. You will be able to use this new drive on your new computer, which 
you won't need software for.

I'm sure gewg_ will make a comment about this.

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re: Floppy transfer
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 9:38 am
Posted by jack hall (681 messages posted)

Depending on the number floppies you have, Keith's answer would be a better solution. If only a few, then my suggestion would be the quickest and simplest. You do not need a zipping tool, but it compresses the attachments to a smaller size. Win zip, Enzip are 2 of only many. Right click on any file, it will usually show up as an option.


On Monday, April 14, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Marina wrote:
>I have more than one floppy. In some of the floppy there are some pictures that I
>saved and want to transfer to the new computer.
>How do I know if I have the zip tools?
>Thanks for your help.
>Marina.
>
>
>

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Want to transfer files to new computer without floppy drive
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 11:36 am
Posted by gewg_ (3491 messages posted)

|I'm sure gewg_ will make a comment about this.
| Keith Stanier
|
Here I am.

|What I would do if I were you is buy a USB Flash Drive/Pen.
|
At first I thought Marina might be trying to make a bootable disk, so I let it be.
Now that it's obvious that that's not the case,
thumbdrives (another name for them) *are* the way to go.

|Then you will be able to drag and drop
|all the files you want to save/transfer onto the flash drive.
|You will be able to use this new drive on your new computer,
|which you won't need software for.
|
21st Century operating systems (not just Microsoft's)
all support USB out of the box.  Very cool.
The *doesn't need burning software* angle is nice too.
Unlike plastic disks, thumbdrives are completely reusable.
They are also faster to write to.

|You will need one that is Win98SE compatable.
|Meaning it comes with software or you can download software for use on Win98SE,
|
YES.  The **main** thing you are trying to avoid is a non-compatibility headache.

|...there are loads available.
|
If a company has gone to the effort to support YOUR operating system,
YES, *that* is the company that deserves to get your money.
...and as we always say AVOID PROBLEMS
and READ THE PACKAGE before handing over your money.

|I have 7 Kingston and 3 PQI drives.
|The 2GB Kingston is the biggest drive they do for Win98 and they are quite cheap.
|
Folks got used to thinking of these as exotic.
The prices are VERY reasonable now---and you can find them EVERYWHERE.
My local discount electronics shop (Fry's)
almost always has one on special in their ad.
Radio Shack is another easy local source that often has them on special.

|I've just bought 2 [off] e-Bay for £13 with P&P.  Do a search on e-Bay.
|
Yup.  It's duck soup to find one online as well.


The reason Keith thought I would respond is that
Nathan Lineback has gathered together **every P&P ID number as he could find**
and has included *every one of them* in his Win9x USB Mass Storage Device Driver.
cache of http://toastytech.com/files/cruzerwin95.html

The chances of his driver not working with *all* your thumbdrives is very small.
I find it incredulous that Keith has said this doesn't work with *any* of his devices.
The way 21st Century OSes can support any of these devices
makes me all the more dubious when Keith says that Nathan didn't get it right.

...but, even with the availability of Nathan's device driver for pre-WinME systems,
as we have said,
try NOT to give your money to companies who stick out their tongues at you.


As to Jack's mention of zip files, I see little reason for that.
The typical CD holds 650MB--and CD blanks with more capacity are readily available.
You would have to have 450 completely-full floppies to use up the capacity of a CD
and 90 completely-full floppies to fill up my smallest thumbdrive (128MB).
Only after that would you need the additional headache of zipping.

If you get error messages from burning software that filenames are too long,
THEN you might think about zip files.

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re: Want to transfer files to new computer without floppy drive
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Keith Stanier (1002 messages posted)

On Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 11:36 am, gewg_ 
|The reason Keith thought I would respond is that
|Nathan Lineback has gathered together **every P&P ID number as he could find**
|and has included *every one of them* in his Win9x USB Mass Storage Device Driver.

|The chances of his driver not working with *all* your thumbdrives is very small.
|I find it incredulous that Keith has said this doesn't work with *any* of his devices.
|The way 21st Century OSes can support any of these devices
|makes me all the more dubious when Keith says that Nathan didn't get it right.

I'm not saying that Nathan got it wrong all I'm saying and I've said it before on 
this type of topic. I've tried Nathan's software and it doesn't work for any of my 
drives.

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re: Floppy transfer
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Richard Harris (239 messages posted)

One free CD burner that works well for me is called Deepburner.  It is a self-contained 
program, just unzip and run, no installation required.  I am running it under XP, 
but it claims to work on 98(original) and higher:

http://www.deepburner.com/?r=download

Note:  They offer both a free version and a shareware version, which does more for 
a price.  For simply burning data file to a CD-R (write once media), the free version 
is OK. 

Comment:  The suggestions to use email or a pen-drive are both good ideas, in principle. 
 email is limited in the size of attachments, but mutiple emails can be sent.  See 
further down for thoughts on pen-drives.

For "zipping", try the free program called 7-zip.

http://www.7-zip.org/

Note that picture files (i.e., JPGs) do not compress much.  However, zipping can 
also be used to make collections to reduce the number of total files.

As for pen drives, many only support XP and above.  Some offer drivers for 98SE, 
but not 98.  Few support plain 98.

But, a simple way around the limitations of 98 is to to download a free "live" LINUX 
image and burn it to a CD on any computer.  "live" means that the PC boots from the 
CD, and nothing is installed on your hard drive.  This requires a PC that can boot 
from CD, but most win98 vintage PC can do that.  However, you might need to change 
the boot order in the BIOS to CD before hard drive.  LINUX will then have native 
support for USB devices, like pen drives.  Just be sure to plug in the pen drive 
before booting from the CD.

Finally, bear in mind that a USB, self-powered floppy can be added to any modern 
PC for occassional use, then unplugged when not in use.  These are very cheap.  Do 
a search on "USB floppy".





On Monday, April 14, 2008 at 4:39 am, Marina wrote:
>I want to transfer the data of a floppy to a cd.
>I am about to buy a newer computer that does not have the slot for floppy.
>I know that I need the software CD writer for that procedure. There is on the web
>to download for free. How safe is that free download?
>Thanks for any response.

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re: Floppy transfer
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Richard Harris (239 messages posted)

I forgeot to mention, if you choose the try the "live" LINUX CD option, many images 
(ISO files) are available at:

http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php

My favorite is KNOPPIX.  This is a large download, about 700 Meg for the CD image, 
but it is very easy to use, becasue it contains a lot of drivers and self-configures 
to the hardware.  (They also offer a DVD image, with even more applicatin software, 
and also free.)  For use of a 98-vinatage PC, I would recommend one of the older 
versions, perhaps 4 or even verison 3.8.  Try the Kernel.org link (http) at the following 
page:

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html

The main KNOPPIX webpage is:

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html









On Monday, April 14, 2008 at 4:39 am, Marina wrote:
>I want to transfer the data of a floppy to a cd.
>I am about to buy a newer computer that does not have the slot for floppy.
>I know that I need the software CD writer for that procedure. There is on the web
>to download for free. How safe is that free download?
>Thanks for any response.

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re: Floppy transfer
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Posted by gewg_ (3491 messages posted)

Richard Harris wrote:
|[Lotsa good stuff]
|As for pen drives, many only support XP and above.
|Some offer drivers for 98SE, but not 98.
|
Yeah--as I already said, *if* you are going to buy one,
you should look for a manufacturer that has MADE THE EFFORT to support *your* OS.

|Few support plain 98.
|
You need to click the Toastytech link in my previous post.

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re: Floppy transfer
Wednesday, April 16, 2008 at 4:02 am
Posted by Marina (3 messages posted)

Before I wrote the message about Floppy transfer, I saw the USB Floppy and was aiming for that. I just wanted to know some opinions from the experts. Thanks for your information; it was very informative and appreciated. Marina.


On Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 2:01 pm, Richard Harris wrote:
>One free CD burner that works well for me is called Deepburner. It is a self-contained
>program, just unzip and run, no installation required. I am running it under XP,
>but it claims to work on 98(original) and higher:
>
>http://www.deepburner.com/?r=download
>
>Note: They offer both a free version and a shareware version, which does more for
>a price. For simply burning data file to a CD-R (write once media), the free version
>is OK.
>
>Comment: The suggestions to use email or a pen-drive are both good ideas, in principle.
> email is limited in the size of attachments, but mutiple emails can be sent. See
>further down for thoughts on pen-drives.
>
>For "zipping", try the free program called 7-zip.
>
>http://www.7-zip.org/
>
>Note that picture files (i.e., JPGs) do not compress much. However, zipping can
>also be used to make collections to reduce the number of total files.
>
>As for pen drives, many only support XP and above. Some offer drivers for 98SE,
>but not 98. Few support plain 98.
>
>But, a simple way around the limitations of 98 is to to download a free "live" LINUX
>image and burn it to a CD on any computer. "live" means that the PC boots from the
>CD, and nothing is installed on your hard drive. This requires a PC that can boot
>from CD, but most win98 vintage PC can do that. However, you might need to change
>the boot order in the BIOS to CD before hard drive. LINUX will then have native
>support for USB devices, like pen drives. Just be sure to plug in the pen drive
>before booting from the CD.
>
>Finally, bear in mind that a USB, self-powered floppy can be added to any modern
>PC for occassional use, then unplugged when not in use. These are very cheap. Do
>a search on "USB floppy".
>
>

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re: Floppy transfer
Wednesday, April 16, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Keith Stanier (1002 messages posted)

Marina wrote:
|Before I wrote the message about Floppy transfer, I saw the USB Floppy and was aiming 
|for that. I just wanted to know some opinions from the experts.

I think you'll find that USB floppies are generally used in laptops that use WinXP. 
So you could be back with the driver problem.

Stick to a USB flash drive Marina you won't regret it.

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