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disappearing ethernet card
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disappearing ethernet card
Saturday, February 28, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Posted by jack hall
(308 messages posted)
Went to Dell xp on dsl. Set up this IBM Net Vista(my old primary computer)
which was on dial up. Removed dial up modem and reinstalled 98SE( after
formatting) and installed the ethernet card which came with the unit.
Card is an Accton shipped new with the computer and drivers are straight
from IBM (Loveno).
Want this as a backup and connected thru a router but haven't gotten that
far yet.
I.E. 6 sp-1 with as many updates as is possible. Connected first time (AT@T
dsl) no issues. Used it for about 3 days for testing and adding things such
as Adobe reader, "The Fie Splitter ect. Standard things I've always used.
Packed it up for later use. Couple of weeks later set it back up and no
joy. Checking under devices, no network adapter shown. Just disappeared. In
network, Client for Microsoft Networks, Accton fast ethernet controller,
and tpc/ip all show and bindings are intact.
This problem occurs every time it is left off for a week or more. 4 times
now. Exact same problem. Hope someone there can point me to a solution.
One issue, and I can't remember when it happened. On bootup, a popup tells
me it is looking for drivers for an "unknown" device. There are only 3 pci
slots, and the only one being used is for the ethernet card and that
message appears whether the card is installed and working or not.
Thanks in advance..
Jack....
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Saturday, February 28, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
What the first 2 paragraphs here describe would be nice:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1217046552
...or if you want to do it yourself, there's the
{P} tag or the {br} tag.
jack hall wrote:
|[...]I.E. 6 sp-1 with as many updates as is possible[...]
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Yuck. I assume you plan to replace that.
|This problem occurs every time it is left off for a week or more. 4 times now.
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If it's what I'm thinking, you should also see a screwed-up Real-Time Clock.
To correct: Replace the CMOS Battery.
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Saturday, February 28, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Posted by jack hall
(308 messages posted)
Ya gewg_, I thought of the battery, but ignored it because the clock on the taskbar
and in bios are keeping proper time. But still one option. Thanks.
and I did go HERE
quite a bit before posting
On Saturday, February 28, 2009 at 6:55 pm, gewg_ wrote:
>What the first 2 paragraphs here describe would be nice:
>http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1217046552
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>...or if you want to do it yourself, there's the
>{P} tag or the {br} tag.
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>jack hall wrote:
>|[...]I.E. 6 sp-1 with as many updates as is possible[...]
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>Yuck. I assume you plan to replace that.
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>|This problem occurs every time it is left off for a week or more. 4 times now.
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>If it's what I'm thinking, you should also see a screwed-up Real-Time Clock.
>To correct: Replace the CMOS Battery.
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Monday, March 2, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Eric Gold
(1 messages posted)
If you're going through a router, then disconnect from it and connect directly to
the modem. If that doesn't work - come back.
ESG
On Saturday, February 28, 2009 at 7:17 pm, jack hall wrote:
>Ya gewg_, I thought of the battery, but ignored it because the clock on the taskbar
>and in bios are keeping proper time. But still one option. Thanks.
>and I did go HERE
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>quite a bit before posting
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OMG. Has "runsan" opened a new account?
Monday, March 2, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
Eric Gold wrote:
|If you're going through a router, then disconnect from it
|and connect directly to the modem. If that doesn't work - come back.
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A new someone giving out bad advice??
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1236043455
I'm sure Jack knows better than to put a Windoze box on the 'Net barefooted,
but for the others who would read this:
NEVER connect your Windoze box to the Internet without a protective layer
that filters packets.
Some time-to-infection numbers for running an M$ OS on an unfiltered connection
are in the 20-second range.
I'm also curious how this poster accounts for the *temporal* element in the query
--which is the *only* variable revealed.
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re: OMG. Has "runsan" opened a new account?
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 7:44 am
Posted by jack hall
(308 messages posted)
gweg_ I don't think I've been hit by anything, since I can run the box day after
day, as long as it isn't shut down(and disconnected) for a week or more.
That makes the cmos battery suspect, but it keeps time.
On Monday, March 2, 2009 at 5:29 pm, gewg_ wrote:
>Eric Gold wrote:
>|If you're going through a router, then disconnect from it
>|and connect directly to the modem. If that doesn't work - come back.
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>A new someone giving out bad advice??
>http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1236043455
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>I'm sure Jack knows better than to put a Windoze box on the 'Net barefooted,
>but for the others who would read this:
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>NEVER connect your Windoze box to the Internet without a protective layer
>that filters packets.
>Some time-to-infection numbers for running an M$ OS on an unfiltered connection
>are in the 20-second range.
>
>I'm also curious how this poster accounts for the *temporal* element in the query
>--which is the *only* variable revealed.
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 7:51 am
Posted by jack hall
(308 messages posted)
Eric, I've held off installing the router until this problem gets solved.
On Monday, March 2, 2009 at 1:25 pm, Eric Gold wrote:
>If you're going through a router, then disconnect from it and connect directly to
>the modem. If that doesn't work - come back.
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>ESG
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 10:54 am
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
jack hall wrote:
|[...]installed the ethernet card which came with the unit.
|[...]drivers are straight from IBM (Loveno).
|Used it for about 3 days [and everything was normal]
|[...]
|Couple of weeks later set it back up and no joy.
|Checking under devices, no network adapter shown. Just disappeared.
|In network, Client for Microsoft Networks, Accton fast ethernet controller,
|and tpc/ip all show and bindings are intact.
|This problem occurs every time it is left off for a week or more. 4 times now.
|[...]On bootup, a popup tells me it is looking for drivers for an "unknown" device.
It should be obvious that Windoze is looking for the card's device driver.
Data that Windoze seeks is *always* in the Windows Registry.
I haven't a clue how the **time** element snuck into this,
but somehow the Registry is losing entries.
If, in addition to the *one week span* thing causing a problem,
you can SHUT DOWN Windoze right now
and you have the problem again when you IMMEDIATELY start the thing up again,
that would be a significant symptom.
(...and would make the temporal element a red herring.)
The only thing that makes the slightest sense to me
would be that (just before the 3-week hiatus)
you told Windoze not to _ever_ make any **new** backups of the Registry
then somehow nuked the entry for that device.
Now, each time you power down, that data is lost.
http://www.google.com/search?q=scanreg.ini+Backup-1+OR+Backup-0
(Man, if you look at the _actual_ URL,
it sure is getting hard to get Google to ignore crap from Red China.) 8-|
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 11:43 am
Posted by jack hall
(308 messages posted)
gweg_ if I run the computer 5 days in a row, than disconnect for a week or so the
network adapter disappears.
Scanreg /restore works. I've tried going to the entry where it last was used and
functioned properly, but no joy.
On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 10:54 am, gewg_ wrote:
>jack hall wrote:
>|[...]installed the ethernet card which came with the unit.
>|[...]drivers are straight from IBM (Loveno).
>|Used it for about 3 days [and everything was normal]
>|[...]
>|Couple of weeks later set it back up and no joy.
>|Checking under devices, no network adapter shown. Just disappeared.
>|In network, Client for Microsoft Networks, Accton fast ethernet controller,
>|and tpc/ip all show and bindings are intact.
>|This problem occurs every time it is left off for a week or more. 4 times now.
>|[...]On bootup, a popup tells me it is looking for drivers for an "unknown" device.
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>It should be obvious that Windoze is looking for the card's device driver.
>Data that Windoze seeks is *always* in the Windows Registry.
>I haven't a clue how the **time** element snuck into this,
>but somehow the Registry is losing entries.
>
>If, in addition to the *one week span* thing causing a problem,
>you can SHUT DOWN Windoze right now
>and you have the problem again when you IMMEDIATELY start the thing up again,
>that would be a significant symptom.
>(...and would make the temporal element a red herring.)
>
>The only thing that makes the slightest sense to me
>would be that (just before the 3-week hiatus)
>you told Windoze not to _ever_ make any **new** backups of the Registry
>then somehow nuked the entry for that device.
>Now, each time you power down, that data is lost.
>http://www.google.com/search?q=scanreg.ini+Backup-1+OR+Backup-0
>(Man, if you look at the _actual_ URL,
>it sure is getting hard to get Google to ignore crap from Red China.) 8-|
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
jack hall wrote:
|gweg_
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That's gewg_ (pronounced "goog").
|if I run the computer 5 days in a row,
|[then] disconnect for a week or so the network adapter disappears.
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My most recent question was:
What happens if you shut down Windoze for 1 minute?
|Scanreg /restore works.
|I've tried going to the entry where it last was used and functioned properly,
|but no joy.
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My other ponderance is:
In SCANREG/RESTORE, do you see a list of continually-updated entries
...or is there a point in time where that stops
--and all you have are **ancient** backups?
Opening C:\WINDOWS\SCANREG.INI with a text viewer
or (cautiously) with a text editor will show the current status of
Backup=
which is where I postulate the problem is.
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 10:12 am
Posted by jack hall
(308 messages posted)
gewg_ , hell I can't type. Anyway, if the setup is working properly
A restart in one minute or for that matter 24 hours is no issue.
I'll check the INI file but it may be a week or so. Thanks for the help.
I'll post back.
On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 12:50 pm, gewg_ wrote:
>jack hall wrote:
>|gweg_
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>That's gewg_ (pronounced "goog").
>
>|if I run the computer 5 days in a row,
>|[then] disconnect for a week or so the network adapter disappears.
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>My most recent question was:
>What happens if you shut down Windoze for 1 minute?
>
>|Scanreg /restore works.
>|I've tried going to the entry where it last was used and functioned properly,
>|but no joy.
>|
>My other ponderance is:
>In SCANREG/RESTORE, do you see a list of continually-updated entries
>...or is there a point in time where that stops
>--and all you have are **ancient** backups?
>
>Opening C:\WINDOWS\SCANREG.INI with a text viewer
>or (cautiously) with a text editor will show the current status of
>Backup=
>which is where I postulate the problem is.
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Friday, March 13, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Posted by jack hall
(308 messages posted)
gewg_,
I gave this thing enough time to act up. But it didn't.
I checked the ini file and all 5 were there and started.
So it's working. Go figure. I did fdisk /mbr, scanreg /fix, and scanreg /opt. before
shutting it down.
It's a backup to my xp now. Nice machine. can handle flash drives, has a burner,
and a ton of space.
I appreciate your time and input. hope it hangs in there.
Jack
On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 12:50 pm, gewg_ wrote:
>jack hall wrote:
>|gweg_
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>That's gewg_ (pronounced "goog").
>
>|if I run the computer 5 days in a row,
>|[then] disconnect for a week or so the network adapter disappears.
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>My most recent question was:
>What happens if you shut down Windoze for 1 minute?
>
>|Scanreg /restore works.
>|I've tried going to the entry where it last was used and functioned properly,
>|but no joy.
>|
>My other ponderance is:
>In SCANREG/RESTORE, do you see a list of continually-updated entries
>...or is there a point in time where that stops
>--and all you have are **ancient** backups?
>
>Opening C:\WINDOWS\SCANREG.INI with a text viewer
>or (cautiously) with a text editor will show the current status of
>Backup=
>which is where I postulate the problem is.
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re: disappearing ethernet card
Friday, March 13, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
jack hall wrote:
|I gave this thing enough time to act up. But it didn't.[...]
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This one *has* been a weird one.
|So it's working. Go figure[...]hope it hangs in there.
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Keep your fingers crosssed--and anything else you've got 2 of. 8-)
|I did fdisk /mbr[...]
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If you're not having troubles getting to a Windoze Desktop,
that's an odd choice of a thing to do--but it doesn't hurt anything.
...and stuff shouldn't be writing to your Boot Sector
after you install your OS or Boot Manager.
cache of http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/16/1549232
aka "Why you wipe your Boot Sector (FDISK your partitions--*not* just FORMAT)
when your Windoze box gets infected".
aka
"Why I will NEVER give money to Intuit
(TurboTax, Quicken, QuickBooks, etc.)"
...though there isn't any *need* to patronize greedy, evil corporations:
Chuck Harris from the Usenet Archive (2005)
especially these days.
cache of http://
usenix.org.uk/linux_news/c/d/16751_New-Version-of-GnuCash-Released-Ported-to-Windows-As-Well.html
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