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Hotsync Crashes (invalid page fault) - address book
Sunday, March 15, 2009 at 8:33 am
Posted by AlbertC (2 messages posted)

Help - I know I have an old setup, but I really need help ... I'm trying to sync between a Samsung i500 and my win 98se computer using Palm desktop 4.1 and Hotsync Manager 4.0.4. It's been working great for YEARS but I did something and now it always crashes. I CAN'T update to XP or Vista because I have a full office of these computers running software that CAN'T run on newer systems. I usually sync between REA (a little organizer program) and Palm and my phone, but that crashed so I EXPORTED the address database (in a comma delimited form) then brought up the database in Works and cleaned it out of comma's and any bad records I could find. But it still crashes after I import the records (they import fine into Palm Desktop) when I do a Hotsync. As soon as it gets to the address book while syncing it crashes. I've tried uninstalling Palm Desktop AND doing a HARD reboot on my phone, then syncing with NO addresses. That worked once. But then when I imported the addresses in Palm Desktop, on the next HotSync it crashed again (invalid page fault). My address book is about 10,700 records, I don't know if that is the problem. HELP

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re: Hotsync Crashes (invalid page fault) - address book
Sunday, March 15, 2009 at 10:51 am
Posted by Arminius (334 messages posted)

Hard to say whether you have a problem with Win98SE or with REA.

When you say "it crashed" or "that crashed" I can't always tell from your words exactly 
"what crashed", REA, Win98, your Palm or your phone.

Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling REA, perhaps installing REA on one of the 
other Win98SE computers in your office to see if you can get things working again 
on a different computer? It would help to narrow down exactly where the problem lies.

If you are going to keep using your old computers you would be better off running 
Windows 2000 in an office environment than Win98. I can't imagine you have much office 
or business type software that runs on Win98 that would not also run on Win2000.


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re: Hotsync Crashes (invalid page fault) - address book
Sunday, March 15, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Posted by AlbertC (2 messages posted)

I meant HOTSYNC crashed. REA did not crash, but I took REA out of the equation by just exporting the addresses to the PALM DESKTOP software. Then when I try to do a sync with my i500 (Palm phone) - Hot Sync crashes when it gets to the address book. Really at this point its a crash between hotsync and Palm destop when I try & sync. I'm guessing either an entry is bad or I am exceeding the number of address entries allowable (mine are 10,700 entries)


On Sunday, March 15, 2009 at 10:51 am, Arminius wrote:
>Hard to say whether you have a problem with Win98SE or with REA.
>
>When you say "it crashed" or "that crashed" I can't always tell from your words exactly
>"what crashed", REA, Win98, your Palm or your phone.
>
>Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling REA, perhaps installing REA on one of the
>other Win98SE computers in your office to see if you can get things working again
>on a different computer? It would help to narrow down exactly where the problem lies.
>
>If you are going to keep using your old computers you would be better off running
>Windows 2000 in an office environment than Win98. I can't imagine you have much office
>or business type software that runs on Win98 that would not also run on Win2000.
>

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re: Hotsync Crashes (invalid page fault) - [Palm] address book
Sunday, March 15, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)

The way you _intended_ your post to appear
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/post?1237131196
did *not* come thru:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1237131196

The first 2 paragraphs here are worth reading:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1217046552


AlbertC wrote:
|I'm trying to sync between a Samsung i500 and my win 98se computer
|using Palm desktop 4.1 and Hotsync Manager 4.0.4.
|It's been working great for YEARS but I did something and now it always crashes.
|
So, it seems obvious something has become corrupted.

|I CAN'T update to XP or Vista...
|
While those may move you forward in time, neither of those is an upgrade.
(Think: Product Activation; Windows Genuine DISAdvantage; DRM)

|...because I have a full office of these computers
|running software that CAN'T run on newer systems  [1]
|
Win2000 was the last M$ OS without the extra nonsense.
If you feel you are chained to The Borg[1],
Arminius' advice on choice of OS may be apt.
http://www.pricewatch.com/software_oper_system/

Going off-script for this site:
A single copy of W2k can be installed on multiple computers
(though, unlike Linux/GPL, that isn't strictly legit).

|I usually sync between REA (a little organizer program) and Palm and my phone,
|but that crashed so I EXPORTED the address database
|(in a comma delimited form)
|then brought up the database in Works
|and cleaned it out of comma's and any bad records I could find.
|
I can sense the desperation.

You weren't very specific about your technique
--like what is left in the edited version to use for delimiters.
If you are trying to use this as a space-delimited format,
don't fields already contain spaces?

I'm also thinking the app you used to edit it inserted linebreaks
(where a hex editor wouldn't have).

|But it still crashes after I import the records
|(they import fine into Palm Desktop) when I do a Hotsync.
|
It is unclear whether you are talking about the *original* file or the edited one.

|As soon as it gets to the address book while syncing it crashes.
|
|I've tried uninstalling Palm Desktop AND doing a HARD reboot on my phone,
|then syncing with NO addresses.  That worked once.
|But then when I imported the addresses in Palm Desktop,
|on the next HotSync it crashed again (invalid page fault). 
|
Here's the standard boilerplate: 
cache of http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-002
(Good links there as well.)
You've run SCANDISK and looked in Device Manager, we ASSuME.

What I'm thinking is **borked device driver**.

...and, of course, the fewer things you have running, the fewer things to go wrong:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1127247347
Hint:  Unplugging your 'Net connection
will allow you to kill some "security"[2] processes.

We're also ASSuMEing you run a firewall when online
and have scanned the box(es) for infections.


Arminius' *try a different computer* advice
is something I didn't think of right away
and I should be ashamed of myself for missing that.


There's also the issue that Micros~1 OSes co-mingle instructions and data in RAM.
There is no end to the problems this causes e.g.
http://google.com/search?q=Buffer-overflow
Your corrupted/edited file could be falling into this hole.


|My address book is about 10,700 records, I don't know if that is the problem.
|
Have you looked for a Usenet newsgroup / forum for the Samsung/Palm?
http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?sel=usenet%3Dalt.comp.sys.palmtops
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search

http://www.google.com/search?q=Samsung+Palm+inurl:forums+OR+inurl:forum


[1] Have you tried to run your must-have apps under WINE?
(In turn, running under Linux)
Your local Linux 
Users Group could help you try this.
Many people find that WINE is more Windows-compatible than Windoze.
...and, of course, Linux and WINE are Free Software (gratis AND libre).

[2] ...if you consider band-aids to be "security". 
cache of http://slashdot.org/tech/09/03/10/1942232.shtml#27140901

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