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re: w{W}indows v{V}is{T}a
Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Kiwi
(2228 messages posted)
And .. ?
A question .. ?
We presume from Windows98 to VisTa, with a T, both words being defined
as Proper Names, which are therefore by definition, capitalized.
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Kiwi
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On Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 12:02 pm, william redmond wrote:
>trying to upgrade
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re: windows visa
Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
william redmond wrote:
|trying to upgrade
http://www.linuxmint.com/
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re: w{W}indows v{V}is{T}a
Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
Kiwi wrote:
|VisTa
This thread reminds me of crazy guys from ~35 years ago.
http://google.com/images?q=big-block-Vega
Note the markings on the scoop.
http://www.jukeboxcruisers.com/BoyleysVegaPassSideWeb.jpg
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re: w{W}indows v{V}is{T}a
Monday, October 26, 2009 at 3:46 am
Posted by Kiwi
(2228 messages posted)
I remember those, but what I found myself doing was trying to lean closer to my screen
as if it was a window, which would have afforded more of a look at the Mustang sitting
next to the Vega! Don't forget the Shelby Cobra's big block version: zero to 60
and back to zero in 10 seconds, as I recall. There should be plenty of more current
stuff to match that, but it was 40 years ago.
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Kiwi
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On Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 5:55 pm, gewg_ wrote:
>Kiwi wrote:
>|VisTa
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>This thread reminds me of crazy guys from ~35 years ago.
>http://google.com/images?q=big-block-Vega
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>Note the markings on the scoop.
>http://www.jukeboxcruisers.com/BoyleysVegaPassSideWeb.jpg
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re: windows visa
Monday, October 26, 2009 at 5:14 am
Posted by Keith Stanier
(1655 messages posted)
william redmond wrote:
|trying to upgrade
Why?
If it’s a machine that’s been running Win98 the spec won't be good enough to Vista.
Memory is going to be your biggest problem, Vista needs 2GB before you get started.
You can't make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
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re: windows visa
Monday, October 26, 2009 at 9:08 am
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
Keith Stanier wrote:
|If it’s a machine that’s been running Win98[,]
|the spec won't be good enough to [run] Vista.
|[...]
|You can't make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
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Well, even if he could get something from M$ to work, he'd still have a sow's ear.
Can you say "Windoze STILL requires anti-virus software"?
Can you say "Windoze STILL requires Registry cleaners"?
Can you say "Windoze STILL requires multi-hour re-installs"?
Can you say "Windoze STILL has 'DLL Hell'"?
Windoze is STILL a joke.
...and it's possible to run a truly competent, more modern OS on 1999-era hardware
--you just have to leave behind Redmond and their massive incompetence.
|Memory is going to be your biggest problem,
|Vista needs 2GB before you get started.
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That's *A* big problem, but not **THE** big problem.
Device drivers for 1999-era hardware will be the big stumbling block with M$
(just as trying to run an old M$ OS on new hardware is a problem).
OTOH, with Linux, device drivers for old gear is NOT an obstacle.
Linux has the best hardware support of ANY OS.
In addition, Linux Mint has the best out-of-the-box experience of ANY distro
(comes with codecs, fonts, Java, Flash, Acrobat Reader...).
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re: w{W}indows v{V}is{T}a
Monday, October 26, 2009 at 9:53 am
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
Kiwi wrote:
|I remember those,
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Guys with too much money and too much time on their hands.
|but what I found myself doing
|was trying to lean closer to my screen as if it was a window,
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8-D
|which would have afforded more of a look at the Mustang sitting next to the Vega!
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Hitchcock pulled a stunt like that in "Rope":
He had a camera angle where a door jamb obscured part of a gal sitting on a bed.
Everyone in the theater leaned to the right to get a better view
(of the gal on the 2-dimensional screen). 8-)
|Don't forget the Shelby Cobra's big block version:
|zero to 60 and back to zero in 10 seconds, as I recall.
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That's actually the contrast that I was trying to draw:
A setup prep'd by Carroll Shelby together with the factory boys
is going to have all the little details worked out.
An extra 300 pounds of mass under the hood
is going to load up the front suspension additionally,
will alter the front/back weight balance, and will significantly alter the handling.
The DIYer's try might be OK for going in a straight line for 1/4 mile,
but on the road it will likely be a real handful during an evasive maneuver.
A Vega was also significantly smaller and lighter-duty than a Mustang;
it was in the Pinto class.
...and, as you note,
this big mod will alter the amount of work that the brakes have to do
as well as the braking balance.
Your average DIYer doesn't do all the math nor buy all the necessary parts.
That is to say that if what the OP wants is a new M$ OS,
he should BUY NEW HARDWARE with that pre-installed.
http://google.com/foogle?q=intitle:GHz+"Windows-7"&scoring=p&price=between&price1=300
...and you STILL haven't straightened out your sig.
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1256323711
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re: windows visa
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 10:11 am
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
william redmond wrote:
||trying to upgrade
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gewg_ wrote:
|http://www.linuxmint.com/
...and really, why would anyone want another steaming pile from Redmond?
cache
of http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/25/windows_7_reader_reviews_redux
Ubuntu Linux 9.10 will be released October 29.
The ISO of that CD can be downloaded FOR FREE
and the CD can be booted to a desktop (you don't *need* to install anything).
If you have 512MB of RAM and a reasonable CPU for the year 2009,
you can do a test drive of a truly MODERN operating system
--NOT one that has the same old open wounds just waiting to be infected.
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re: windows visa
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 10:24 am
Posted by Steve
(23810 messages posted)
What is the Interest Rate.
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re: windows visa
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
Steve wrote:
|What is the Interest Rate[?]
It's the *penalties* that should concern you:
You STILL have to deal with an easily-infected OS.
You STILL have multi-day installs (including apps).
You STILL are subject to M$ shutting down its DRM activation servers.
You STILL are subject to M$'s remote kill switch (Windows Genuine DISAdvantage).
...and, of course, there's the *My old apps won't work under the new OS* thing.
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re: windows visa
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Steve
(23810 messages posted)
ah, those hidden fees, get ya every time.
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re: windows visa
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Arminius
(334 messages posted)
Come on people...
Hasn't it occured to anyone that this post from william redmond has got to
be a fake?
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re: w{W}indows v{V}is{T}a
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Arminius
(334 messages posted)
gewg wrote:
|Kiwi wrote:
||I remember those,
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|Guys with too much money and too much time on their hands.
Now here is a project more worthwhile. 8-)
http://home.pacbell.net/drakcap/EdRan.htm
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re: w{W}indows v{V}is{T}a
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
Arminius wrote:
|http://home.pacbell.net/drakcap/EdRan.htm
...rivaling production Citroens as the world's ugliest vehicle.
(Take your pick on the model; never seen one I'd call handsome.)
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re: w{W}indows v{V}is{T}a
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Kiwi
(2228 messages posted)
I have often fantasized about a full-size Galaxie 500 XL cross with a Torino Ranchero,
myself . .
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Kiwi
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On Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 3:42 pm, Arminius wrote:
>gewg wrote:
>|Kiwi wrote:
>||I remember those,
>||
>|Guys with too much money and too much time on their hands.
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>Now here is a project more worthwhile. 8-)
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>http://home.pacbell.net/drakcap/EdRan.htm
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The competition for the desktop
Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Posted by gewg_
(4444 messages posted)
william redmond wrote:
|trying to upgrade
This self-described platform-agnostic guy
has a pretty even-handed comparison of Vista 7 and Ubuntu:
cache
of http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/oct/27/ubuntu-koala-windows7-review
Here's what Ah-nuld has to say about this release:
from the Usenet Archive: (Schwarzenegger)
Meanwhile, here in the eighth year of the 21st Century,
another yet nation is realizing how foolish it is to buy ones and zeros[1]:
from the Usenet Archive: (Tifatul Sembiring)
(...and, of course, corporations are mentioned there as well).
[1] ...not to mention putting your country's fate into the hands of a corporation
--and a foreign corporation at that.
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re: windows visa
Friday, October 30, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Posted by dhm
(1069 messages posted)
Windows Vista home edition proved to be crippleware to get you to get the premium
edition. So here are the hardware reqs for the premium:
- 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
- 1 GB of system memory
- 40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
- Support for DirectX 9 graphics
- WDDM Driver
- 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
- Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware
- 32 bits per pixel
I imagine it would really crawl at 1 GHz 32 bit. I had troubles with Win98 with
less than 1.5 GHz. I never imagined that anyone would try Vista without a 64 bit
processor.
My source is: www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/get/system-requirements
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re: windows visa
Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 11:26 am
Posted by Kiwi
(2228 messages posted)
I had both of the free Betas of Vista and tested it on several of my systems. I
wasn't impressed, and never bought a copy. I already have Win7 running on a system
here this time, although it is reluctant to let me be as unconscious of security
between my various PCs as I prefer to be.
I ran Win95 on 486's back in the day, but was already running Pentiums (at least
one) by the time Win98 came along, but neither of those (Dx4/100 and P1 MMX 166)
had more than 128 MBs of RAM (very expensive at the time). Win98 didn't seem slower
than Win95 to me, although WinME did seem slower, when it came along (matched up
to a P-II/400 PC).
The first time I ever experienced slowness from Win98 and was annoyed about it was
this summer, on a duplicate (to some extent) of the P-II I had when WinME was new
-- both shared the Intel 440BX chipset, and the one I built with an Abit BX-6 runs
about 20% slower in Win98 than it does in Win2000!
Shortly after that one was tested, I had a Micronics MB running Intel's 430TX chipset
that ran Win98 like a snail, slower than it would've run on a 486 Dx2/66, but the
CPU was a 200 MHz P1 MMX processor. I tore that one down to send the bad MB to the
recyclers.
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Kiwi
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On Friday, October 30, 2009 at 5:44 pm, dhm wrote:
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>Windows Vista home edition proved to be crippleware to get you to get the premium
>edition. So here are the hardware reqs for the premium:
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>- 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
> - 1 GB of system memory
> - 40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
> - Support for DirectX 9 graphics
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>- WDDM Driver
> - 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
> - Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware
> - 32 bits per pixel
>
>
>I imagine it would really crawl at 1 GHz 32 bit. I had troubles with Win98 with
>less than 1.5 GHz. I never imagined that anyone would try Vista without a 64 bit
>processor.
>
>My source is: www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/get/system-requirements
>
>
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re: windows visa
Monday, November 2, 2009 at 11:11 am
Posted by dhm
(1069 messages posted)
I should've qualified that I had a video problem when in the browser. Sometimes
when scrolling there was too much for the CPU to do even after a video card was installed.
(That is, I started with the onboard video.) The screen would flash black. I rarely
got a lockup and never got one after the video card was installed. I also installed
an sound card to bypass the onboard sound. I still needed some moderate overclocking
to eliminate problems.
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re: windows visa or master charge
Monday, November 2, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Kiwi
(2228 messages posted)
I've never relied in any onboard video, and seldom accept what is included as onboard
audio. The systems I had when Win98 replaced Win95 had ATI Rage Turbo 8 MB cards
in them, and Creative AWE64 Sound Blasters.
Before the second Pentium was retired, it had a TNT2 with 32 MBs of DDR memory.
I was using a Landline with a dialup 'Net connection. The modem was slower than
the slowest Pentium I ever had, and I didn't get much better on the web until the
past three years or so, and it's an economy package with a reduced speed/bandwidth
version of cable internet.
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Kiwi
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On Monday, November 2, 2009 at 11:11 am, dhm wrote:
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>I should've qualified that I had a video problem when in the browser. Sometimes
>when scrolling there was too much for the CPU to do even after a video card was
installed.
>(That is, I started with the onboard video.) The screen would flash black. I rarely
>got a lockup and never got one after the video card was installed. I also installed
>an sound card to bypass the onboard sound. I still needed some moderate overclocking
>to eliminate problems.
>
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re: windows visa
Monday, November 2, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Posted by J.R.
(2362 messages posted)
Have you tried upgrading to Windows Master Card? :)
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