No sound in WinME, but alright in XP?!!
Saturday, October 23, 2004 at 5:15 pm
Windows Me Annoyances Discussion Forum
Posted by Javier Medina
(7 messages posted)
Good everything:
I used to have a Pentium II-400MHz, installed in a PCChips M748LMRT, which has all
kind of thing onboard, and only 1 PCI SLOT and 1 ISA SLOT, which were shared...
I bought that board in 1999, within the CPU, and I was happy until I noticed that
the PCI SLOT was low priority for the BIOS, so the PCI Diamond Monster Fusion (Banshee
16MB) was working in a 25% of capacity, then I bought a ATI Radeon 7200 (generic)
PCI, 32MB, thinking that I was going to get a lot better about performance, but it
got worse, thanks to the MainBoard (even with BIOS update) the Radeon was working
only at 1MB, of its 32MB of RAM, so one day, I got really pissed off about that,
and I uninstalled everything and sold the MotherBoard without the CPU, thinking that
I was going to buy some I820, I815 Intel Motherboard to get the real performance
with the components and the CPU PII400MHz.
Some days before that, I was having the CMedia 8738 PCI audio onboard, that was excellent,
the sound worked perfectly in everything, here is when the problems start:
I Have a 30GB HD, there I have Windows Millenium Edition, which in its first time,
when I had a Pentium I 200MMX, turned from Windows95, then to Windows98, inmediately
become in Windows Millenium, and since the first time that I installed it on 1998
(early), never had the needing of formatting the HD or reinstall any software previously
installed, so I got a database (windows registry, software, etc.) on my PC that never
broke since 1998, and if I'm selling the motherboard, why do I have to format the
HD again?...
This time is not going to be different...
One day I tried to install the Windows 2000 together with the Windows Millenium,
and it worked very well!, none of conflicts, etc. but one day I changed the HD, and
moved all the files to the new HD and Windows 2000 couldn't survive, WinMe did, so
I threw the Windows2000 excerpts that were left and installed WindowsXPprofessional,
in the SAME PARTITION AND IN THE SAME LANGUAGE THAN WINDOWS ME, so, they at the first
time had some conflicts, since XP wanted to use the same Program Files folder than
ME, and I had to reinstall some programs for ME and give, through REGEDIT, a new
Program Files folder for XP...
I made them share a lot of things, for example, the Outlook Express, they were one
Outlook Express software for each OS, in a different folder, but sharing the same
MailBox, so I receive a email in WinME, I move to XP, and there's the same email
that I received in ME... the only thing I could never share between these kids was
the Fonts folder... but I didn't care very much about that...
the hardware worked very well in both OS, so, I was going to sell the MotherBoard
and I needed to do some practice in deleting all the devices in the device manager
for a "fresh HW installation".
There were some Methods to achieve it in ME:
-System.1st, that simple and innocent file in the C root, had some magic, since that
registry, when you replace the actual System.dat with it, makes the PC think that
windows ME has just finished copying the files of the first installation and now
it's going to setup all the plug&play hardware, so that would be excellent if programs
that were registered in that System.1st weren't very old, so I'd have to reinstall
AND UNINSTALL almost all the programs that I had...
-Uninstalling all the hardware in failsafe mode, so I'd force the system to recognize
all the "new" hardware, I have read about another methods: for example, copying the
Hardware profile and telling windows "none of the aobve" (profiles) the next startup,
but even if I tried, it didn't worked... so the failsafe method had to be the one:
I practiced this method before taking off the MainBoard, and worked partially, I
uninstalled everything, and the INF\OTHER folder also, and recognized all the "new"
hardware, and everything worked fine, except for the Sound, the device manager recognized
the sound card onboard cmedia8738PCI (WDM) drivers that worked before the experiment,
and it said it "is working fine" but It CAN'T BE SELECTED as the preferred device
in Multimedia, Control Panel, all the tabs said the same thing, while in the Hardware
tab, it also said that all the AUDIO DEVICES are working fine...
HOW COULD IT BE POSSIBLE?, I Uninstalled a board "logically", and installed the same
board, with the same devices, and stuff, and the sound is not working????, I tried
to solve that, but couldn't, then I decided that:
THAT SURELY WON'T HAPPEN WHEN I INSTALL THE NEW MAINBOARD AND IT'S NEW ONBOARD SOUNDCARD...
well, I sold the MotherBoard, and bought a not-so-cheap, Soyo SY-7vba133, with agp,
5pci, and 2 ISA, with a Pentium III 800MHz cpu included, and a AGP banshee that I
dismissed the first day since I'll install the Radeon PCI which is better. the Onboard
Audio is the VIA AC'97 WDM
I did every step for the reinstallation, and everything worked fine, except for the
sound, that made the same stupid error than in the practice, I uninstalled every
setup, every software from the old soundcard, and it didn't worked... but here comes
the great big thing:
REINSTALLING THE WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL, I had to setup, and repair since there
was no use trying to get in by failsafe, but when the setup finished, everything
was working very well, INCLUDING THE SOUND!!, I took a look to device manager, and
the onboard soundcard had the Microsoft Drivers... I tought that was the cause, so
I updated the drivers with the new from VIA, and IT WORKED TOO!, and the sound was
excellent!!, simply great!...
how's possible that the onboard sound works in XP and not in ME?... then I tried
something awful: I took the WINME and installed the Win98 drivers for the soundcard,
these were not WDM, and they worked... but the quality was SO HORRIBLE, that I returned
to the dead new drivers...
So, what do you say?... I think it would be possible to be a Windows Registry problem...
in that case my only hope is the System.1st tactic, that System.1st is like any simple
windows Registry, but it has something inside that makes the PC think that it's setting
up the hardware for the very first time, and when it finishes, the software and programs
that were set before, are kept untouched (well, maybe not the MSN Messenger, nor
the Oulook Express... I think) then I need to know what does this registry to work
that way...
If not, then I'll need to scarve onto the actual windows registry to see if there's
some crap left by the old soundcard...
just 2 more things:
1- yes, I've tried all the WDM drivers for the VIA that i've found out there, and
noone worked...
2-Remember: it works perfectly in WindowsXP, not in ME, in the same PC...
PLEASE HELP!!!!
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