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re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD
Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 4:00 pm
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Posted by Alex (5 messages posted)


KB891711 causes "blue screen" on my PC when I use explore.exe and some other programs are running including Enternet 300, Zonealarm 4.5


On Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 12:11 am, Jack Gulley wrote:
>

Sorry about the delay, but this has taken most of the evening to research. Short
>answer, YES - believe it!
>

Microsoft had announce last week that there would be no new Security Updates
>released this month. So most people were not looking for any updates this week (including
>me).

However, they said nothing about not releasing some of the old MWA
>(Missing Without Action) Security Updates that they had published, with workarounds,
>and that patches for selected systems (XP SP2) had already been released.
>

They just updated the prior notices to include Windows 98/ME and provided the
>MWA Security Updates for these systems.
>

Looking into the details of the problems being fixed, I can understand what it
>might take to fix them, and the delay in getting the fix out.
>

The notice MS05-002
>- Vulnerability in Cursor and Icon Format Handling Could Allow Remote Code Execution
>(891711)
was just updated to include additional details about the exposures and
>fix releases for Windows 98/ME.
>

The problems being fixed also apply to a number of older versions of OutLook based
>e-mail program and other MS applications which are not supported with updates, and
>that could be installed on many systems. The fix also would require an update to
>the Windows 98/ME kernel module, something difficult to do and control. It would
>be almost impossible for them to provide the fixes for all of the effected programs.
>The solution is to install a new module that checks for the different exploits and
>blocks them.
>

This requires a new Startup entry to start the code on Windows 98/ME systems,
>and the module showing up in Task Manager. Sort of like an Anti-Virus/Firewall program,
>except for HTML code processors (IE, e-mail, and Cursor handlers). The fix creates
>a new folder in the C:\Windows\System folder to contain the patch and from where
>it is loaded during startup. A real pain for us, but necessary to fix all of the
>known exposures. (Also allows them a simple way to put out additional fixes
>for new problems, by updating this programs DLL module, instead of patches to other
>large modules.
)
>

The alternative to using this "critical" fix, is to view all e-mail only in
>text
format (no images or icons) for all Microsoft e-mail viewing programs and
>never click on any included link. And in IE to block displaying all images and never
>clicking on icons or using action cursors provided by web sites. Having the older
>Security fixes installed helps avoid some of the problems, but this fix is required
>to deal with a very real security exposure.
>

Take the time to read through the above MS05-002
>notice and expand all details of it.
>

And from now on, consider it normal to see KB891711 (or its replacement)
>in the Windows 98/ME startup list and in HijackThis logs. In fact, consider it a
>security risk (and possible infection) not to see it in these
>lists.


Written in response to:
re: kb891711 in tasklist ??? - YES (Jack Gulley: Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 12:11 am)

Responses to this message:
*re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Alex: Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 11:31 pm)

All messages in this thread [show all]
-kb891711 in tasklist ??? (Ogg: Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 8:07 am)
*re: kb891711 in tasklist ??? (Ms. Eagle: Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 8:09 pm)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ??? - YES (Jack Gulley: Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 12:11 am)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ??? - YES (hugo defreyne: Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 1:12 pm)
*My Outlook Express keeps stalling since I downloaded kb891711 (Kevin M: Wed, Apr 6, 2005, 9:45 am)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Alex: Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 4:00 pm)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Alex: Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 11:31 pm)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Jack Gulley: Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 12:56 am)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Alex: Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 7:18 am)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Alex: Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 2:29 pm)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Jack Gulley: Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 7:29 pm)
-re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Alex: Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 2:03 pm)
*re: kb891711 in tasklist ? - BSOD (Robert Fortner: Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 4:27 pm)
*re: kb891711 problems (Jack Gulley: Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 5:50 pm)
-re: kb891711 problems 98/ME (Jack Gulley: Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 9:38 pm)
*re: kb891711 problems 98/ME (Rick F: Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 12:04 pm)
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