C.K. Thanks for taking me to school on the lessons
of PC`s shortcomings....Seriously though C.K., you
are absolutely right from start to finish in your reply, and a very interesting explanation 
to the issue of the log, for examination by pros.

Back in the Summer while a regular here at annoyances I posted a message seeking 
assistance
due to a browser problem. I cannot recall the error
but it was a minor that dealt with malware. A very
nice person here at the site dealt with me for a while and recommended that I go 
to a certain site
(do not know  if I should name it here).

The person who took my case was located in England, for christsake!

Right off the bat the issue of the log was mentioned
and he was good -- very good. He is the person who told me to run a java based solution 
using Trend Micro for a virus scan. He walked me through the whole process of downloading 
HiJack this(which is now on my desktop, just in case).

In fact he showed me how to create the desktop icon, run the scan and save the log 
--- and how to
paste it to his thread.

When I ran the scan using Trend Micro the result
was "one infection" that was deleted automatically
during the scan.

Instead of pasting the log after suffering a case of
uncomfortablities, I took a screen shot of the scan
results and pasted it instead. Explaining that I did
not feel it necessary to put him through all the 
hassle if evidence showed an absence of serious viruses.

He understood and accepted the screen shot as
a good result....and that was that. I mean, C.K, 
what you say is very sound advise, but I should
hope that you agree that this Kernell is probably
just being intrusive due to my haste in just punching the enter key...I even thought 
that it 
might just be the  server, telling me to cool it.

The main reason that I started my question this
time around, if you go back and check, was to ask
if anyone had a quick band-aid solution to this
error, which actually I have not seen since I ran
the Trend Micro scan that I told you about...

However, C.K. if for some unknown reason, this
error starts giving me headaches, I will consider
running something that does not include sending my log(overseas), or even here in 
the U.S...

I just learned from you today what the log contains
when pasted somewhere else. Unfortunately, that
does not help my belief that if for some unforsaken
reason, something terribly wrong happens to my
PC due to my reliance on unknown persons...well
I guess you know what I mean.

To bring this to a conclusion, C.K. I have read some of you replied to questions 
posted here at the
site in the past. I am very grateful that you personally took this case. What I have 
read is all
good.

Again, Thanks. Perhaps you can think of something
that may be usual to me with the Hijack icon. I say
this because here is the advise I got from overseas: "come back here to this thread 
and paste
the log in your next reply. DO NOT have Hijack This
fix anything yet. Most of what it finds will be harmless or even required".

Your call C.K.

Elmoticky











On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 9:49 am, C K wrote:

>Yes, this forum is a little different.  Would be nice if there was a standard format 

>that everyone conformed to..

>

>The log created by the malware scanner(s) won't contain any personal identifiable 

>information, and if they do, it would be spyware that you need to get rid of anyway, 

>but it is a good idea to always inspect it before sending it to anyone.  Frankly, 

>spyware is changing and getting more serious all the time so it is what is leaving 

>your computer that you don't know about that is the more serious concern.

>

>The logs I speak of are necessary so that the people who locate and identify spyware 

>and help you deal with it can see what is running on your computer.  We don't specialize 

>in malware issues here so you wouldn't be sending the log to this site, but a few 

>people here do help on those other malware sites where they help people who have 

>been infected.  It would be like a doctor trying to diagnose a problem more easily 

>if he can take an XRay if you let him, versus trying to diagnose something if you 

>wouldn't let him take that XRay.  The only way that you can identify and deal with 

>malware on your computer is to "see" it, and the logs from utilities like HijackThis 

>are one way to "see" it.  It is actually safer sending a log to them than having 

>someone physically putting their "hands on" your computer at a shop where you can't 

>see what they are doing to it.  That, in my experience is the far more dangerious 

>scenerio that you can get into.  I've found more viruses on shop repaired machines 

>than I care to think about.

>

>Personally for Win 9X, when I run into these types of problems, I prefer to just 

>reload the machine with Windows and update it.  I only have one machine now with 

>Win 9X on it (Win 98SE) for testing purposes and I have a clean install inage that 

>I can dump on the hard drive in about 10 minutes so that I don't have to go through 

>the long install process and reloading all of the software.  A second physical drive 

>has all of my data on it so it isn't effected.  If not for this recovery type of 

>scenerio, I would spend way to many hours on maintenance of that machine but, sadly 

>for Win 9X it is a necessary process as Windows 95/98/ME just doesn't maintain itself 

>as does the NT operating systems (NT/2000/XP) which were developed for the business/corporate 

>world.

>

>As for your error, in my experience, if it happens once, it will happen again.  
It 

>will just be a matter of time.  The code can't troubleshoot and repair itself.  
We 

>aren't at that point in the computer world yet, until machines are significantly 

>more powerful and we have developed AI to the point where it can do it itself.  
But 

>at that point, we risk computers taking over the world and doing away with people! 

> ;-) 

>

>

> 

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