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re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 6:26 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) Free MS Update CD Take a look in Scheduled tasks for something like PCHealth running every couple of minutes and just delete the task, then take the PCHealth, or task, out of your msconfig Start-Up group and remove the entry completely using SpyBot S&D. I don't use System Restore anymore as it caused too many problems, preferring to make an image of the operating system C: drive and store it on the F: drive as well as burning a copy to CDRs. Mac WINDOWS HELP  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 8:04 am Posted by Mike (37 messages posted) Thanks for the reply... how do I make a copy of the operating system running on C and store it on F? and/or how do I copy it to CDRs? Mike On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 6:26 am, Mac wrote: >Free MS Update CD >Take a look in Scheduled tasks for something like PCHealth running every couple of >minutes and just delete the task, then take the PCHealth, or task, out of your msconfig >Start-Up group and remove the entry completely using SpyBot S&D. > >I don't use System Restore anymore as it caused too many problems, preferring to >make an image of the operating system C: drive and store it on the F: drive as well >as burning a copy to CDRs. > Mac > >WINDOWS HELP   >HREF="http://www.crucial.com">RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 8:32 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) Free MS Update CD I use TeraByte Unlimited's Image for DOS 1·51c as it produces error free images every time. Just download the program, and tbiview.exe so that you can view the .IMG file and extract something if you ever need to, and add it to a Windows Start-Up bootdiskette. Add tbiview to your system ON the C: drive. If you don't have another drive just make the copy to CDRs. Mac WINDOWS HELP  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 8:46 am Posted by Mike (37 messages posted) Thanks again. I looked at Terabyte Unlimited's site. Wouldn't I want to use "Image for Windows" instead of "Image for DOS" to make a backup of my system as it looks at any given time. I am looking to be able to restore the system back to say exactly what it all looked like last week or yesterday or 2 days ago. Also, what do you mean by looking at the .IMG file and extracting something. Can you give me an example? Thanks. Mike On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 8:32 am, Mac wrote: >Free MS Update CD >I use TeraByte Unlimited's Image for DOS 1·51c as it produces error free images every >time. > >Just download the program, and tbiview.exe so that you can view the .IMG file and >extract something if you ever need to, and add it to a Windows Start-Up bootdiskette. > >Add tbiview to your system ON the C: drive. > >If you don't have another drive just make the copy to CDRs. > Mac > >WINDOWS HELP   >HREF="http://www.crucial.com">RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 9:04 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) Free MS Update CD I find Image for DOS better. Image for Windows operates in the active Windows environment Image for DOS operates from a bootdiskette or bootable CD-ROM (EBCD 060) when the main drive is not really being used, just running, but without Windows runnning. The example is similar to extracting a file from a Cabinet file. Two days ago is not practical. Your Image has to be of a perfect operating system installation, before any virus or Trojans get on to it and before you add any documents or other personal files, etc. These you either put on a different drive, if you have one, or just back-up independantly. Once a month maybe, or even once in a lifetime. (Like OEM Master CDs, but personalised, or custom.) Mac WINDOWS HELP  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 10:31 am Posted by Mike (37 messages posted) I guess maybe I am looking for a different kind of backup. I am looking for something so that if I lose everything, I can restore back say a week or so and only have to re-input everything for the last week. I am talking about backing up everything... all my work, my wifes work, etc. including the system stuff. We did this once about a year ago when my son downloaded something and we got a virus. We used SYSTEM RESTORE and went back to the last system shutdown for a backup and put everything back like it was before my son's download. That way we only had a day or so worth of lost information and the system was restored to a condition previous to the virus. And again sorry but I don't know what an extraction from a "cabinet file" is. Thanks for your patience. Mike On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 9:04 am, Mac wrote: >Free MS Update CD >I find Image for DOS better. Image for Windows operates in the active Windows environment >Image for DOS operates from a bootdiskette or bootable CD-ROM (EBCD 060) when the >main drive is not really being used, just running, but without Windows runnning. > >The example is similar to extracting a file from a Cabinet file. > >Two days ago is not practical. Your Image has to be of a perfect operating system >installation, before any virus or Trojans get on to it and before you add any documents >or other personal files, etc. > >These you either put on a different drive, if you have one, or just back-up independantly. > >Once a month maybe, or even once in a lifetime. (Like OEM Master CDs, but personalised, >or custom.) > Mac > >WINDOWS HELP   >HREF="http://www.crucial.com">RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 1:14 pm Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) Free MS Update CD Cabinet files are compressed files in which all of the operating system files are stored and are used in the installation process, and are also there in case you need to replace a file. See: C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS or search for files and folders with a .CAB extension. Just how big is the drive you are using and does it have any partitions? Do you have one physical drive or two? System Restore is too unreliable and what is more (: actually less :) it does NOT "restore" your system, it just rolls it back to where you were before. Maybe what you are really looking for is a program called "Go-Back" which a lot of people swear by. A TeraByte image is more like Norton's Ghost. I keep ALL of my documents in drive Partitions, D: E: & F: Only the Operating System and Programs are on drive C: The entire installation is carefully customised & tuned and then a virus & Trojan-free image is made. If the operating system on C: fails I just format the 4·0Gb drive using/ A:\>format c: /Z:16 , to get 8192 byte clusters (a bit faster than using 4096 byte clusters) and restore ... everything ... from the image in one go. (And wow, does defrag and scandisk get through those 8192 byte clusters at high speed!!!) After re-boot the computer is just as good as if it had just been installed, and better than an OEM Restore, as it is more up-to date ... and ... it has all of your additional programming. (Once you have a years worth of updates, or less, or add new programs, you just make a new image.) This is recommended procedure, because you can get a virus before you can get the anti-virus definitions which will deal with it. Same with adware and Trojans. As you cannot get a virus or anything else onto your CDR Master Image your system is safe. Mac WINDOWS HELP  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 4:42 am Posted by Mike (37 messages posted) I have a 40GB hard drive with one partition(I think, when I click on "my computer" I show a D drive in addition to the C drive) and it is one physical drive. Was that one long command to format and get the 8192 byte clusters? I am not very PC proficient having worked at my job on mainframes my entire working life has left me less than anxious to run home and jump on my PC, but now I find my family(wife and son) are doing lots on it and expect me to be able to support and fix everything because "I work with computers" for a living.... big difference between mainframe and PC. So if I ask a lot of novice type questions... it's only because I am. How would my wife and son put all of their documents into the D drive? Can what they have be moved to D? Also, we have CD and DVD drives in our system. On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 at 1:14 pm, Mac wrote: >Free MS Update CD >Cabinet files are compressed files in which all of the operating system files are >stored and are used in the installation process, and are also there in case you need >to replace a file. > >See: C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS or search for files and folders with a .CAB extension. > >Just how big is the drive you are using and does it have any partitions? Do you have >one physical drive or two? > >System Restore is too unreliable and what is more (: actually less :) it does NOT >"restore" your system, it just rolls it back to where you were before. > >Maybe what you are really looking for is a program called "Go-Back" which a lot of >people swear by. > >A TeraByte image is more like Norton's Ghost. > >I keep ALL of my documents in drive Partitions, D: E: & F: > >Only the Operating System and Programs are on drive C: > >The entire installation is carefully customised & tuned and then a virus & Trojan-free >image is made. > >If the operating system on C: fails I just format the 4·0Gb drive using/ A:\>format >c: /Z:16 , to get 8192 byte clusters (a bit faster than using 4096 byte clusters) >and restore ... everything ... from the image in one go. (And wow, does defrag and >scandisk get through those 8192 byte clusters at high speed!!!) > >After re-boot the computer is just as good as if it had just been installed, and >better than an OEM Restore, as it is more up-to date ... and ... it has all of your >additional programming. (Once you have a years worth of updates, or less, or add >new programs, you just make a new image.) > >This is recommended procedure, because you can get a virus before you can get the >anti-virus definitions which will deal with it. Same with adware and Trojans. > >As you cannot get a virus or anything else onto your CDR Master Image your system >is safe. > Mac > >WINDOWS HELP   >HREF="http://www.crucial.com">RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: _RESTORE\TEMP replicating files Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 8:04 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) Free MS Update CD Hello Mike, Maybe easier if I tell you what I do with my ME computer. I got it as a shop demonstrator at a reduced price with a 19" monitor, but with a 60Gb hard-drive. It was originally set up in Dutch and had to be converted to French as I am learning French as I go along. It was VERY unstable and always crashing, blue screen every day. That was fixed by altering the MinSPs setting in system.ini and upping the RAM to 512Mb. Still unstable and somewhat unpredictable, until I came across www.ntfs.com and had a look at the question of the FAT32 File Allocation System versus the NTFS file system. "ME runs better on a small drive volume." So I partitioned the drive. Big difference! The C: drive is down to just 4·0Gb and has the operating system and programming. The full install. The D: drive (7·6Gb) has all Office Documents and spare programs in storage. The E: drive (13·2Gb) runs the fixed swap-file (to prevent Windows always re-sizing it) and holds the Email, and ... The F: drive (30·0Gb) holds Music and anything else. It also has an Image of the C: drive so that, if the C: drive gets damaged by a virus, I just have to format it and restore the entire operating system and programming from the image ... in less than an hour. As the C: drive is only 4·0Gb it would normally have 4096 byte clusters, but it it faster running on 8192 byte clusters, so I use A:\>format c: /Z:16 to get the 8192 byte (8k) clusters. This has the advantage that MSDEFRAG and ScanDisk run much faster too when it comes to maintaining the drive and files are less fragmented sitting on a larger than default cluster. As there is no storage on this drive the Operating System then operates in the best environment, in my personal opinion. I have a DVD-ROM drive Q: and a CD-RW drive R: If you want to partition in this way (yes that is one long command, btw) then you would need to burn all of your wife & son's documents to CDR and then use the fdisk program to do the partitioning. A:\>fdisk Delete drive D: Delete the extended partition. Delete the Primary DOS drive. Create a new 4000Mb Primary DOS drive. SET IT ACTIVE ! Create an Extended DOS drive using the rest of the available drive space. Create a 10000Mb Logical drive D: Create a 10000Mb Logical drive E: Create a Logical drive F: using the rest of the available drive space. Four drives in all which is the maximum. Your wife's documents on D: & your son's documents on E: With a 40Gb drive, a 4·0Gb drive C: is more than enough, leaving about 35Gb to partition. Depending on your use of the computer, say two 10·0Gb drive partitions and the remainder for the F: drive. Whatever sizes you put in you can always resize as they fill up and you may find that you need more space on one partition and less on another. Zeleps Partition Resizer will do this and it is Freeware. It cannot make the C: drive smaller with this program, like you can with some, so it is just as well to start off "small". You can always make it bigger if you have to. Btw, I have just seen a new Medion desktop computer for sale with the one box, but with two monitors, two keyboards, two mice, running XP home. Just built for such a situation. Mainframes huh! You know more about all this than the rest of us put together I suppose. We only had data-loggers and radars when I was at sea as an Engineer. Its just the maniacs who have the attack computers and so on. Mac WINDOWS HELP  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows Me Discussion Forum