Tip: Run a free scan for common Windows errors ad

re: Footnote on WinME Hibernate Friday, November 30, 2007 at 10:08 am Posted by C K (6157 messages posted) Hibernate is for shutting the system down by saving it's existing state to the hard drive and then shutting the computer down. When you then restart the machine, you are back to where you left off. It is NOT for clearing memory. The fact that your machine is coming back to life is evidence that hibernate is not working, and there are many reasons for this. From bad drivers to software apps and utilities that aren't friendly with hibernating/suspending, to older hardware/motherboards that won't support going through the hibernate process. When the machine comes back on after failing to hibernate properly, it has cleared out/stopped (or tried to stop) applications that Windows was trying to suspend, so obviously your RAM and/or system resources are going to be freed up for this and other reasons. This ISN'T the purpose of hibernate. Rather than doing this to free up resources, which by the way isn't the same as having free physical RAM, try this free utility that I use on older machines that still run Win 9X. It works better (and can be configured) without user intervention if you want. http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/maxmem.htm By the way, there is only one way that hibernate works when it actually works to the end result of shutting your machine down. Don't know what you mean by "two" ways.. There is standby, and there is hibernate. The two work in different ways. Standby suspends and keeps power on but in a low state to keep the contents of the RAM "live". The PC is actually still "on". Hibernate does not. To resume from the hibernated state, you have to push the power button the same as from a cold start. On Thursday, November 29, 2007 at 11:51 am, Bob C. wrote: >System Hibernate is pretty doggone good but I have found it works two ways. One way >is good. The other one is too but different. I only wish I could have the choice >of choosing the one I want when I want it. > >It would be interesting to know why this difference happens and how it might be usefully >taken advantage of. > >It was only a few months ago that I began running System Monitor routinely. Then >one day I ran system hibernate and saw its good effect on available memory. > >At that time, when I selected Hibernate, the system screen would quickly blink off >but , in about 10 seconds, the computer would beep, the screen brighten and return >to the usual desktop. System monitor showed the memory situation was much improved. > >Not many days later, I got to thinking this was so good it must be well known and >I was late to the party. A little more thinking, mulling over all the bad press >I've seen on winME(undeserved in my opinion), I decided to some Googling on the subject. > I am sort of in the habit of checking newsgroups for computer tips and not the web. >I found Microsoft's winME newsgroup and posted there. General response was this >is a new discovery. >Finally got around to checking the web today and found this forum. > >Whoops - have to go. I'll post more later. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Footnote on WinME Hibernate Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 12:45 am Posted by Bob C. (9 messages posted) Thank you for the info, C.K. Yes, I was aware Hibernate sometimes runs as you described, maybe most of the time. For awhile I had it such that, by running system restore to a certain point, it works as you describe, the Standard Version. System Restore to other restore points made it, as I mentioned, good for garbage collection you might say. In either case it does do some useful garbage collection and thats a good thing which not many people seem to be aware. I recently put a new AV on and don't relish going back to the old restore point - I don't totally trust restore as, you might have gotten the feeling that something occasionally goes on in this machine that is unusual to say the least. Zone Alarm did not report it either and ZA has dropped most of their support for winME/win9x. I will have a related question elsewhere on the forum on System Restore. I would appreciate your input on it also. HTH Bob C. On Friday, November 30, 2007 at 10:08 am, C K wrote: >Hibernate is for shutting the system down by saving it's existing state to the hard >drive and then shutting the computer down. When you then restart the machine, you >are back to where you left off. It is NOT for clearing memory. The fact that your >machine is coming back to life is evidence that hibernate is not working, and there >are many reasons for this. From bad drivers to software apps and utilities that >aren't friendly with hibernating/suspending, to older hardware/motherboards that >won't support going through the hibernate process. When the machine comes back on >after failing to hibernate properly, it has cleared out/stopped (or tried to stop) >applications that Windows was trying to suspend, so obviously your RAM and/or system >resources are going to be freed up for this and other reasons. This ISN'T the purpose >of hibernate. > >Rather than doing this to free up resources, which by the way isn't the same as having >free physical RAM, try this free utility that I use on older machines that still >run Win 9X. It works better (and can be configured) without user intervention if >you want. > >http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/maxmem.htm > >By the way, there is only one way that hibernate works when it actually works to >the end result of shutting your machine down. Don't know what you mean by "two" >ways.. There is standby, and there is hibernate. The two work in different ways. > Standby suspends and keeps power on but in a low state to keep the contents of the >RAM "live". The PC is actually still "on". Hibernate does not. To resume from >the hibernated state, you have to push the power button the same as from a cold start. > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows Me Discussion Forum