Somewhere along the line I lost the statemgr file out of the startup tab of msconfig. Is there a easy way of getting this file back and how do I put it into the startup tab of msconfig? I need this as I want to fix a problem with not being able to do a system restore which apparently cannot be done without this file. Thanks.

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Naturally, in order to be able do a system restore and for Statemgr. to be in startup, you need to enable System Restore. Is it enabled? It isn't enough to just have Statemgr. in startup. Also, you should set a limit on the amount of disk space SysRestore uses, the default is way to high.

I am aware of system restore being enabled and it is. Also setting is low for what Restore can use. I just lost the statemgr file somewhere during the past 6 mo. probably. Would like to know an easy way to get this file back and to get it entered in the startup list. Restore is eating up about 6gb and I want to get rid of it and start clean again. Thanks for the quick response.


On Wednesday, January 2, 2008 at 1:26 pm, Ms. Eagle wrote:
>
>Naturally, in order to be able do a system restore and for Statemgr. to be in startup,
>you need to enable System Restore. Is it enabled? It isn't enough to just have Statemgr.
>in startup. Also, you should set a limit on the amount of disk space SysRestore uses,
>the default is way to high.
>
>

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I assume you know, to get clear out previous restore points, disable it and reboot. 

Have you tried doing running a file search for Stmgr.exe? You need to enable show 
hidden files in folder options. 

See message 8 in this thread on how to recover it, if it is in fact missing...
http://help.lockergnome.com/windows2/Stmgr-ftopict484741.html



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I have tried several times to tick the enable system restore box in the troubleshooting tab and do a immediate restart to get rid of the old _RESTORE data (currently 6.5gb), then I do another restart as enable system restore box is now blank again. After the clean restart, _RESTORE still contains 6.5gb. I was under the impression that this was the cycle you performed to clean out _RESTORE. Unticked the show hidden files as you indicated. Anyways, looked at the site you provided for msg8. Searched and Found Base2.cab. It does not contain a WIN_17.cab file. But a separate search on that name turns one up all by itself. It contains the stmgr.exe file we've been talking about. Not worrying about why it is separate right now, so I dragged it to the desktop as you suggested successfully. Thought I had it made!! Went to next step which is open the C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE file and got no file found....Needless to say, couldn't put stmgr.exe into it. So I guess I need to know how I get that file back or create it. Seems like I'm getting in deeper and deeper. I am leaving the stmgr.exe file I got on the desktop where it is until hopefully all problems resolved. Appreciate your help, I retired a few years ago as a mainframe systems programmer (a supposed DB2 wizard) so I know the evils of being the on-call person who is suppose to have all the answers. Only problem is, I'm not real familiar with PC's as you can probably tell. Looks like I have just enough knowledge to hurt myself. I will follow along whatever path you provide.Thanks Mike.


On Wednesday, January 2, 2008 at 4:39 pm, Ms. Eagle wrote:
>
>I assume you know, to get clear out previous restore points, disable it and reboot.
>
>Have you tried doing running a file search for Stmgr.exe? You need to enable show
>hidden files in folder options.
>
>See message 8 in this thread on how to recover it, if it is in fact missing...
>http://help.lockergnome.com/windows2/Stmgr-ftopict484741.html
>
>
>

Mike, I'm not sure what to think about Statemgr missing, etc. I'm not a ME expert, 
but I've learned a few things. System Restore isn't always reliable anyway, so don't 
count on it to always bail you of trouble. Many ME users simply don't use it at all. 

Manually is the best way to clear out restore points, especially in the case of malware 
infections where the restore points become corrupt. I don't know that it will work 
for you under the circumstances, It's worth a try, so we'll start with this.

To Manually clear out old Restore points:

You'll need a ME startup disk (boot disk) to get to the command prompt on a Windows 
ME system. If you don't have a startup disk, you can easily create one. Get a blank 
floppy diskette and stick it in the drive. Go into Add/Remove programs. Click the 
Startup Disk tab and choose Create disk...
OR:
Download a ME boot disk image here Bootdisk.com 
and create one on another system.  

Then boot with the startup disk in the floppy drive. At the A:\  type the Deltree 
command below. Note the space (upper or lower case, doesn't matter in DOS).
 
A:\}DELTREE C:\_RESTORE

*Deltree is DOS for delete, and it's a very powerful command. You can't undo it. 
(Just a warning in case someone else happens across this) 

Once it's finished, remove the diskette from the drive. Then Ctrl_Alt_Del to get 
back into Windows.

This will delete all of the temp files. Then (normally) Windows ME will create a 
new folder and a few empty dat files.  Let me know how it goes. 

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Your suggestion to use the DOS deltree command worked as expected. Got rid of the old stuff and created a new folder. Thanks for that work around. I still cannot use system restore (probably because of the missing statemgr file). Anyone know of a easy way to get one. I don't have the ME install disk?


On Saturday, January 5, 2008 at 12:16 am, Ms. Eagle wrote:
>
>Mike, I'm not sure what to think about Statemgr missing, etc. I'm not a ME expert,
>but I've learned a few things. System Restore isn't always reliable anyway, so don't
>count on it to always bail you of trouble. Many ME users simply don't use it at all.
>
>Manually is the best way to clear out restore points, especially in the case of malware
>infections where the restore points become corrupt. I don't know that it will work
>for you under the circumstances, It's worth a try, so we'll start with this.
>
>To Manually clear out old Restore points:
>
>You'll need a ME startup disk (boot disk) to get to the command prompt on a Windows
>ME system. If you don't have a startup disk, you can easily create one. Get a blank
>floppy diskette and stick it in the drive. Go into Add/Remove programs. Click the
>Startup Disk tab and choose Create disk...
>OR:
>Download a ME boot disk image here Bootdisk.com
>and create one on another system.
>
>Then boot with the startup disk in the floppy drive. At the A:\ type the Deltree
>command below. Note the space (upper or lower case, doesn't matter in DOS).
>
>A:\}DELTREE C:\_RESTORE
>
>*Deltree is DOS for delete, and it's a very powerful command. You can't undo it.
>(Just a warning in case someone else happens across this)
>
>Once it's finished, remove the diskette from the drive. Then Ctrl_Alt_Del to get
>back into Windows.
>
>This will delete all of the temp files. Then (normally) Windows ME will create a
>new folder and a few empty dat files. Let me know how it goes.
>

I figured we lost you, since it's been awhile. Anyhow, in XP one can reinstall System 
Restore, but I don't know that it's possible in WinME. 

Does smgr.dll exist in your Windows/System folder? If so, you could try extracting 
a copy of Statemgr.exe from your ME CAB install directory into C:\Windows\system\restore 
folder. See this post for instr. on how to, and the two possible locations for the 
CAB dir. 
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winme/1045523773

If necessary, a repair install of ME can also be done from those CABS. However, all 
your Windows ME and IE updates would need to be reinstalled. 


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Been busy on a couple other problems with Flash Player and Adobe support. But, now I'm back. I found a smgr.dll in windows\system\options\cabs. None under \\system\install. Do I copy this to the _restore file or is there a extract for the statemgr.exe from this file?


On Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 2:07 pm, Ms. Eagle wrote:
>
>I figured we lost you, since it's been awhile. Anyhow, in XP one can reinstall System
>Restore, but I don't know that it's possible in WinME.
>
>Does smgr.dll exist in your Windows/System folder? If so, you could try extracting
>a copy of Statemgr.exe from your ME CAB install directory into C:\Windows\system\restore
>folder. See this post for instr. on how to, and the two possible locations for the
>CAB dir.
>http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winme/1045523773
>
>If necessary, a repair install of ME can also be done from those CABS. However, all
>your Windows ME and IE updates would need to be reinstalled.
>
>

Please read my response again. I asked if smgr.dll existed in the System folder, because I'm wondering whether that is also missing. Smgr.dll belongs in System dir, as I noted. Follow my instr. for extracting files and extract Statemgr.exe into the Restore folder. Reboot.

What I was trying to say, perhaps not clearly..  if smgr.dll is missing, that needs 
to be replaced also. Assuming it doesn't need registering, simply copying it into 
the System folder may work. That file, and statemgr.exe into Restore dir.

Although, I do not know whether other files are also needed for System Restore to 
function properly. It seems to be working somewhat, since you were able to clear 
it out. 




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