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re: New hardware found annoyance Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 4:16 pm Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) Multiple installs or failed installs in the registry possibly. Shutdown and remove the NIC. Boot to safe mode and delete/uninstall all the the NIC's listings and other devices that are old and not present that you know of and see in the Device Manager, then boot normally and try to install the device and drivers again. Outside of that, you may have to reload the operating system clean unless you just want to waste more time trying determine what happened and tracking down the junk and entries left behind IME.. :-) If that doesn't help, then I would suspect a bad install routine used by the manufacturer of the device or compatibility issues.. On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 10:59 am, Joe wrote: >Never worked with Millennium much since most people had someone, or themselves remove >it in place of 98SE or 2000. After my troubles here, I can see why. > > >Anyhow I am working on a friends older P3 machine that has ME installed and she recently >got broadband service but no NIC in the machine with which to connect up to the modem >so I, having installed numerous types of cards, took it upon myself to install one. > The card is made by "Trendnet" and is their TEG-PCITXR lowcost 10/100/1000 NIC. > Before this card went in, however, I tried installing a couple cards I have laying >around here and neither would install. So I get the trendnet card in and have a >few problems along the way but eventually I get it to work. I know this because >the machine in question is being used to convey this message. Anyhow, now, on every >boot, I get a "New Hardware Found" wizard for both a PCI Networking Device which >I cancel, and a PCI Device which I also cancel. Looking in Device Manager, I see >no problematic devices with the customary yellow question mark or exclamation point. > All devices are installed properly. No other cards have been installed after the >trendnet NIC so why is it that I am getting these new hardware wizards each time >I boot? I have looked through the registry to see if there was some sort of open >process that might be causing this and I have also removed the trendnet card and >reinstalled. In both circumstances I still get the wizards. This is bugging me >to the point of a backup and format/install of 98SE which I've never had this sort >of problem. Any takers? Tech Support Forum's list of wonderful helpers haven't >managed a reply yet and I am doubting I'm going to get one here but will be happy >to get some suggestions. Also, I've done a complete search of the web to no avail >so if you know something or experienced this before and have a fix, let me know. > Thanks. > > >ps, sorry for the "novel" approach but I'm a writer in my spare time and don't know >how to write short stories, (lol) [Reply or follow-up to this message] forgot a step.. Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 4:23 pm Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) After cleaning out old devices in safe mode, restart the machine and see if you get any error or hardware found messages. If not, install the software first unless the manufacturer specifically tells you not to, then shutdown and install the NIC and restart normally. It should complete the installation process and may show the new hardware found message. Let it complete and close everything if necessary. Make sure it (the NIC) works, then shutdown and restart and see if the message pops up again. If it does, I would say the manufacturers install routine is crap... Just my experience.. On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 10:59 am, Joe wrote: >Never worked with Millennium much since most people had someone, or themselves remove >it in place of 98SE or 2000. After my troubles here, I can see why. > > >Anyhow I am working on a friends older P3 machine that has ME installed and she recently >got broadband service but no NIC in the machine with which to connect up to the modem >so I, having installed numerous types of cards, took it upon myself to install one. > The card is made by "Trendnet" and is their TEG-PCITXR lowcost 10/100/1000 NIC. > Before this card went in, however, I tried installing a couple cards I have laying >around here and neither would install. So I get the trendnet card in and have a >few problems along the way but eventually I get it to work. I know this because >the machine in question is being used to convey this message. Anyhow, now, on every >boot, I get a "New Hardware Found" wizard for both a PCI Networking Device which >I cancel, and a PCI Device which I also cancel. Looking in Device Manager, I see >no problematic devices with the customary yellow question mark or exclamation point. > All devices are installed properly. No other cards have been installed after the >trendnet NIC so why is it that I am getting these new hardware wizards each time >I boot? I have looked through the registry to see if there was some sort of open >process that might be causing this and I have also removed the trendnet card and >reinstalled. In both circumstances I still get the wizards. This is bugging me >to the point of a backup and format/install of 98SE which I've never had this sort >of problem. Any takers? Tech Support Forum's list of wonderful helpers haven't >managed a reply yet and I am doubting I'm going to get one here but will be happy >to get some suggestions. Also, I've done a complete search of the web to no avail >so if you know something or experienced this before and have a fix, let me know. > Thanks. > > >ps, sorry for the "novel" approach but I'm a writer in my spare time and don't know >how to write short stories, (lol) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: forgot a step.. Wednesday, June 11, 2008 at 8:34 am Posted by Joe (64 messages posted) Thanks for the reply. Actually, this is more annoyance than any harmful problem. Instead of canceling the request to locate drivers I just had it do an automatic search and install, knowing full well that it wouldn't find anything. Checking Device Manager showed 2 devices not fully installed (yellow exclamation points). Other than that nothing at all. Subsequent boots do not ask me for drivers as these are already established as devices without driver, devices that are not even physically present. The NIC that I did install works wonderfully and outside of the DM, there's no change to the computer. Since a new machine is in the cards not too far down the road, I'm just going to let it lie. Thanks again for your input though. On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 4:23 pm, C K wrote: >After cleaning out old devices in safe mode, restart the machine and see if you get >any error or hardware found messages. If not, install the software first unless >the manufacturer specifically tells you not to, then shutdown and install the NIC >and restart normally. It should complete the installation process and may show the >new hardware found message. Let it complete and close everything if necessary. >Make sure it (the NIC) works, then shutdown and restart and see if the message pops >up again. If it does, I would say the manufacturers install routine is crap... >Just my experience.. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: New hardware found annoyance Monday, June 16, 2008 at 8:58 pm Posted by JimmyK (168 messages posted) on my me machine I also had no card and went to my walmart and purchased a $14.00 card. It says it works with all windows. For 95,98, 98SE, Me and 2000 you have to install the driver via floppy disc which comes with card. Unplugged machine, put in card, started machine insert floppy disc and bingo it loaded driver and I am connected to net. With xp and vista it will automatically find hardware and install drivers. hope this helps On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 10:59 am, Joe wrote: >Never worked with Millennium much since most people had someone, or themselves remove >it in place of 98SE or 2000. After my troubles here, I can see why. > > >Anyhow I am working on a friends older P3 machine that has ME installed and she recently >got broadband service but no NIC in the machine with which to connect up to the modem >so I, having installed numerous types of cards, took it upon myself to install one. > The card is made by "Trendnet" and is their TEG-PCITXR lowcost 10/100/1000 NIC. > Before this card went in, however, I tried installing a couple cards I have laying >around here and neither would install. So I get the trendnet card in and have a >few problems along the way but eventually I get it to work. I know this because >the machine in question is being used to convey this message. Anyhow, now, on every >boot, I get a "New Hardware Found" wizard for both a PCI Networking Device which >I cancel, and a PCI Device which I also cancel. Looking in Device Manager, I see >no problematic devices with the customary yellow question mark or exclamation point. > All devices are installed properly. No other cards have been installed after the >trendnet NIC so why is it that I am getting these new hardware wizards each time >I boot? I have looked through the registry to see if there was some sort of open >process that might be causing this and I have also removed the trendnet card and >reinstalled. In both circumstances I still get the wizards. This is bugging me >to the point of a backup and format/install of 98SE which I've never had this sort >of problem. Any takers? Tech Support Forum's list of wonderful helpers haven't >managed a reply yet and I am doubting I'm going to get one here but will be happy >to get some suggestions. Also, I've done a complete search of the web to no avail >so if you know something or experienced this before and have a fix, let me know. > Thanks. > > >ps, sorry for the "novel" approach but I'm a writer in my spare time and don't know >how to write short stories, (lol) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: New hardware found annoyance Friday, June 27, 2008 at 8:18 am Posted by Alan Masterman (462 messages posted) Hi Joe, I don't have anything additional about your problem but I felt motivated to say that you shouldn't apologise for your "novel" approach. If only everybody could state their problem as objectively and clearly as you, life would be lot simpler! As opposed to the ones who write in to say, "My computer keeps crashing. Why?" By way of addition to what CK says, though, don't underestimate the likelihood of a bad installation routine... manufacturers are notoriously incompetent at writing their own setup files. If you've ever tried installing a D-Link PCI wireless adapter, without the benefit of expert knowledge, you'll know what I mean. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: New hardware found annoyance Friday, June 27, 2008 at 9:30 am Posted by Joe (64 messages posted) Thanks for the reply. After exhaustive attempts at trying to figure it out and having found nothing that works, I decided that it'd be best to just go through the process of letting it think it was going to find drivers, knowing full well that it wasn't. I think you know what happens in that case. So DM has a couple of question mark labeled devices which I know do not exist and the wizard doesn't come up anymore. I tried to delete the devices as well but the wizards come back on each boot so there is just no need to beat this dead horse to death. Outside of the DM, the machine works very well, my friend is happily getting on line with no problems and she will be buying a new machine later this year anyhow so I'm just going to let it ride. Sometimes that is the best course of action. But thanks anyhow for the reply. Tech support forums site is very well organized and looks prettier than this one but I come here more often because it has what they are lacking (atleast for me and my own issues),... people who are willing to respond. On Friday, June 27, 2008 at 8:18 am, Alan Masterman wrote: >Hi Joe, >I don't have anything additional about your problem but I felt motivated to say that >you shouldn't apologise for your "novel" approach. If only everybody could state >their problem as objectively and clearly as you, life would be lot simpler! As opposed >to the ones who write in to say, "My computer keeps crashing. Why?" >By way of addition to what CK says, though, don't underestimate the likelihood of >a bad installation routine... manufacturers are notoriously incompetent at writing >their own setup files. If you've ever tried installing a D-Link PCI wireless adapter, >without the benefit of expert knowledge, you'll know what I mean. [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows Me Discussion Forum