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How to enable DMA
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How to enable DMA
Monday, September 15, 2008 at 6:41 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
hey i was trying to enable Direct memory access
i thought u just needed to go to right click on my computer>properites>device manager>disk
drives>then the hard drive but i go to settings and there no thing there only a
few options but no DMA. On a web site it said go to IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers in
device manager but there is no IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers in device manager.
on the age of mythology readme it says this dma thing will make my computer faster
i tried to do this a long time ago but didit bother becasue computer was going fast
but age of mythology is quite slow lol
oh ya and under system devices in device manager theres a yellow ! next to plug and
play bois extension and i go into it and it says : the NTKERN.VXD device loader(s)
for this device could not load the device driver (Code 2) and says update the drivers
but i click update and it cant find any drivers for it. i remeber it being there
a long time before this so its not a new device i think it dont tell me what plug
and play bois extention it is so i wouldent know where to get the drivers for it
from
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re: How to enable DMA
Monday, September 15, 2008 at 1:42 pm Posted by Keith Stanier
(1655 messages posted)
DanTheMan wrote:
|hey i was trying to enable Direct memory access
|i thought u just needed to go to right click on my computer>properites>device manager>disk
|drives>then the hard drive but i go to settings and there no thing there only a
|few options but no DMA.
Hi Dan.
Well on my Win98SE I have a DMA checkbox on the hard drive but I never check it.
I do check the DMA checkbox on my PlexWriter CD Rom because Nero says to do that.
Why do you need to checkmark your hard drive?
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re: How to enable DMA
Monday, September 15, 2008 at 7:08 pm Posted by C K
(6910 messages posted)
Some chipsets like VIA need special drivers so the motherboard or system builder
supplies the drivers and the configuration utility to set them up. Unless your system
is damaged, which it sounds like it could be, you need to go to the chipset manufacturer
or motherboard/system builder's website for updates or the drivers for your system.
For VIA it is called 4 in 1 driver package updates. When these are installed, the
normal Windows settings options will usually disappear as you must now use their
config utility to set the DMA and do other tasks for maintenance. Unless your system
builder or motherboard manufacturer has the required files or has included them with
your system, and the associated utility for enabling the DMA settings, you could
be out of luck if WIndows won't specifically handle your hardware correctly. You
may find them on hosting sites also, at the risk of downloading an infection also
sometimes.
Also possible that Windows may have to be repair installed or clean installed as
you would waste more time trying to fix it than just reinstalling if it isn't something
simple. If your drive isn't running in DMA, then there will be almost constant disk
activity and Windows will be super slow, so slow you will be waiting more than doing
anything. Example, even on a 2 gig processor machine, it might take 3-6 minutes
to boot up and even when done, even a small task will seem to take hours with constant
disk activity and the processor load will be at 100% more than usual.
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re: How to enable DMA
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 12:03 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
so i need different drivers if i want to get dma?
is there a tool for all hard ware that i can download that changes things like this
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re: How to enable DMA
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 7:22 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
becasue its meant to make your hard drive faster and make games run better
On Monday, September 15, 2008 at 1:42 pm, Keith Stanier wrote:
>DanTheMan wrote:
>|hey i was trying to enable Direct memory access
>|i thought u just needed to go to right click on my computer>properites>device manager>disk
>|drives>then the hard drive but i go to settings and there no thing there only
a
>|few options but no DMA.
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>Hi Dan.
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>Well on my Win98SE I have a DMA checkbox on the hard drive but I never check it.
>
>I do check the DMA checkbox on my PlexWriter CD Rom because Nero says to do that.
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>Why do you need to checkmark your hard drive?
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re: How to enable DMA
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:10 am Posted by KeithT
(2653 messages posted)
You probably already have DMA enabled on your hard disk, should be by default.
An MS article for reference .... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/258757
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re: How to enable DMA
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:14 am Posted by C K
(6910 messages posted)
If you need different drivers for the chipset on the motherboard, it has to come
from the motherboard manufacturer, the chipset maker, or the manufacturer of the
computer if it is a big OEM type machine. Without being able to see if you are running
in DMA already, you won't know if you really have DMA enabled. If you are already
running in DMA, you obviously won't be able to speed anything up as far as the HDD.
There are no generic utilities that I know of that handle all types of different
manufacturers of motherboards/chipsets.
Who is the manufacturer of the machine or what brand and model motherboard do you
have in your machine? How much memory and what is the CPU speed? Need to know that
info to be able to help at all or give you an idea as to what you should expect from
your machine.
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re: How to enable DMA
Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 4:42 am Posted by Keith Stanier
(1655 messages posted)
KeithT wrote:
|You probably already have DMA enabled on your hard disk, should be by default.
Thats an interesting point Keith and a good link thanks.
As I've said mine as never been enabled all the years I've been using Win98SE. I
shall have to give it a try to see if anything noticeable happens.
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re: How to enable DMA
Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 6:52 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
This is most of my computer stuff tell me if u need more information(couldent get
all becasue system info program wasent working so well)
Manufacturer Gigabyte
Model i810
Version 1.3A
Chipset Vendor Intel Corporation
Chipset Model 82810E 810e Host-Hub Interface and Memory Controller
South Bridge 82801AA 8xx Chipset LPC Interface Bridge
SMBus Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset SMBus Controller
@04C0h
CPU Intel Celeron
Cpu Socket Socket 370 [Socket 370 ]
Max CPU Speed 800 MHz
System Slots 3 PCI
Video (Enabled) Intel Corporation
Sound (Enabled) YAMAHA Audio
Sound (Enabled) AC97 Audio
(Enabled) AC97 Modem
Maximum Memory Module Size 512 MBytes
Maximum Capacity 1024 MBytes
Memory Slots 2
Name Physical Memory Array
Chassis Desktop
Machine Type IBM PC/AT
UUID FFFFFFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF
Free resources (16 bits)
System resource 55%
GDI resource 55%
User resource 55%
Disk Space Disk C: 10 GB Available, 17 GB Total, 10 GB Free
Disk Q: 0 MB Available, 685 MB Total, 0 MB Free
Physical Memory 191 MB Total, 3 MB Free
Memory Load 85%
Virtual Memory 1858 MB Total, 1661 MB Free
Nvidia Geforce 4 mx 440 e pci 64mb
191mb of sd ram
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re: How to enable DMA
Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:52 am Posted by C K
(6910 messages posted)
You may have a corrupted install if you have other errors too. Have you tried to
reinstall the system?
The Intel application/drivers for the chipset are here,
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/
but it shouldn't be needed for Win 9X. Can't promise that it will work on your board.
It was mainly for Intel branded boards but should work for your chipset. Just make
sure to read everything that is important to make sure.. Intel's drivers may not
be exactly right for your board. Otherwise, you have to download drivers from Gigabyte,
if they have them. You would need the actual model number of the board though, which
isn't in the info that you posted (only the chipset number is there). Many times
those utilities won't/can't determine the actual model of the board. You would have
to try and find it printed on the board somewhere, or have the actual owners manual
that lists the model number.
If it were mine, I would take a spare HDD and do a clean test install of Windows,
to see if the HDD DMA/PIO check box appeared under the drive listing. If it does,
then you have your answer. The old install of Windows is damaged and may not be
repairable, other than a repair install, or a clean install if that fails.
Can't help more than that without actually being able to get my hands on it to test
it myself.. Good Luck!!
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re: How to enable DMA
Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 7:28 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
so if i do a windows me reinstall over the top of it all my programs will be there
still and all my things like the icons i changed will still be wont they and if
i reinstall windows me over the top of it do u think it will fix the dma thing
On Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 10:52 am, C K wrote:
>You may have a corrupted install if you have other errors too. Have you tried to
>reinstall the system?
>
>The Intel application/drivers for the chipset are here,
>
>http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/
>
>but it shouldn't be needed for Win 9X. Can't promise that it will work on your
board.
> It was mainly for Intel branded boards but should work for your chipset. Just
make
>sure to read everything that is important to make sure.. Intel's drivers may not
>be exactly right for your board. Otherwise, you have to download drivers from Gigabyte,
>if they have them. You would need the actual model number of the board though,
which
>isn't in the info that you posted (only the chipset number is there). Many times
>those utilities won't/can't determine the actual model of the board. You would
have
>to try and find it printed on the board somewhere, or have the actual owners manual
>that lists the model number.
>
>If it were mine, I would take a spare HDD and do a clean test install of Windows,
>to see if the HDD DMA/PIO check box appeared under the drive listing. If it does,
>then you have your answer. The old install of Windows is damaged and may not be
>repairable, other than a repair install, or a clean install if that fails.
>
>Can't help more than that without actually being able to get my hands on it to test
>it myself.. Good Luck!!
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re: How to enable DMA
Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 8:43 am Posted by C K
(6910 messages posted)
Everything should stay the same as it is, unless there is damage that Windows can
not fix. When you do a repiar install of Windows, it is actually installing a clean
install of Windows, the same as if you wiped your drive and installed clean, except
that Windows will try and import all of your settings data, drivers, and programs
from the old install into the new one. The issue is that sometimes those "defects"
in the old system can be imported into the new install if WIndows doesn't have the
"knowledge" on what NOT to import as far as damaged parts of the old system.
This is why Windows needs a certian/minimum amount of free space on the HDD to accomplish
a repair install. It simply doesn't "overwrite" the old install at all. If Windows
thinks it is successful, then it will delete the old install, and you can still be
left with a damaged system. About 25% of the time I will find this to be the case.
This is why I would recommend having a spare HDD to clean install Windows on to see
if the DMA check box shows up and your other errors are fixed. If it seems to be
fixed, then you know that you have a damaged system. I would then use the spare
drive to image/clone you original drive to and then run the repair install on that,
and keep your original drive safe if you don't want to risk losing your data and
programs. If the spare drive successfully repairs, your home free. If it doesn't,
then you know that you won't be able to repair the Windows install, and will have
to end up using a clean install, reinstall your programs and transfer your data over
to your new installation manually. Don't let Windows do it with any "wizards".
Sorry for being long winded but over the years, I have my methods since I have had
to (and still do, but not as much anymore) do this professionally from a data recovery
standpoint.
Bottom line is that one needs to have some spare hardware and make backup plans if
you don't want to risk losing everything on a computer system, and expect to try
and be successful in repairing it. Just my experience..
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re: How to enable DMA
Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 10:56 pm Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
ok then. thanks for all the help C K and Keith
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re: How to enable DMA
Friday, September 19, 2008 at 1:48 am Posted by dantheman
(3 messages posted)
i did a a repair install but didit fix the dma problom and the plug and playbois
thing but fixed my context menu and a other problom BUT it has created a problom
every time i start my computer it will come up with Explorer has caused an error
in and i will click close but after 30 secs it will show it lol but it
dont do this in safe mode
On Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 10:56 pm, DanTheMan wrote:
>ok then. thanks for all the help C K and Keith
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re: How to enable DMA
Friday, September 19, 2008 at 8:04 am Posted by C K
(6910 messages posted)
I would strongly suspect you have hardware problems. If that is the case, software
or settings won't solve it. Memory would be the first suspect.
Run this: http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Software diagnostics won't always be able to detect errors but it would be a start.
Hardware testers are the only sure way of diagnosing hardware issues but you would
have to be a service facility to afford that equipment.
The memory could be OK but the motherboard could be failing if errors are detected.
Not all that unusual as hardware ages... You could also have hard drive issues
so no way of really helping from a forum. This very much sounds like a "hands on
issue" to really test and determine you problems. (either failing memory or HDD
can cause data corruption and loss that can make Windows sick to non-functional)
Try the Intel App Accelerator from the link I posted earlier and see what happens.
Intel did have some issues that could be helped by installing their drivers.
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re: How to enable DMA
Friday, September 19, 2008 at 8:09 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
it said Explorer has caused an error in
On Friday, September 19, 2008 at 1:48 am, dantheman wrote:
>i did a a repair install but didit fix the dma problom and the plug and playbois
>thing but fixed my context menu and a other problom BUT it has created a problom
>every time i start my computer it will come up with Explorer has caused an error
>in and i will click close but after 30 secs it will show it lol but it
>dont do this in safe mode
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re: How to enable DMA
Friday, September 19, 2008 at 8:10 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
Explorer has caused an error in unknown
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re: How to enable DMA
Saturday, September 20, 2008 at 7:36 am Posted by DanTheMan
(140 messages posted)
i tryed the intel app and that worked well but i aways had that but this was newer
so i got it
every start up it will come up with Explorer has caused an error in and
will come up again after 30 secs every thing is fine expect that am thinking it may
be a start up app but i unclicked every thing in msconfig
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re: How to enable DMA
Saturday, October 25, 2008 at 11:17 am Posted by Ed
(741 messages posted)
One possibility, try re-registering the system DLL files.
Go to START > RUN and in the RUN box type the following -
regsvr32 urlmon.dll
Then press the ENTER key. You should see a brief message that the dll has been successfully
registered.
Do the same with the following, one at a time, pressing ENTER after each:
regsvr32 Shdocvw.dll
regsvr32 Actxprxy.dll
regsvr32 Oleaut32.dll
regsvr32 Mshtml.dll
regsvr32 Browseui.dll
regsvr32 Shell32.dll
Then download and install this Microsoft patch, which will install DLL files that
are compatible with Win9x:
MCREPAIR.EXE
Answer YES when prompted to replace a Newer file with an Older version.
Alternatively, open your bootup log in Notepad (it's a text file), and examine it
to find any devices which failed to load properly on startup (i.e. search it for
the word FAIL). That log file is in C: root, and is called BOOTLOG.TXT
It might be a hidden file, in which case open an MS-DOS box and type the following
command first (so that Notepad will be able to open it):
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ATTRIB.EXE C:\BOOTLOG.TXT -H
Ed
On Friday, September 19, 2008 at 8:10 am, DanTheMan wrote:
>Explorer has caused an error in unknown
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