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re: windows me unimstall infomation Thursday, October 2, 2008 at 12:44 pm Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted) DanTheMan wrote: |when i did a repair install of windows me i kept the info to uninstall it |so what does this info do. will it make my computer go back before i repaired installed |windows me or what You can't uninstall any version of Windows unless you have used an upgrade disk to a newer version. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Friday, October 3, 2008 at 10:08 am Posted by DanTheMan (140 messages posted) ya you can look http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272159 On Thursday, October 2, 2008 at 12:44 pm, Keith Stanier wrote: >DanTheMan wrote: >|when i did a repair install of windows me i kept the info to uninstall it >|so what does this info do. will it make my computer go back before i repaired installed >|windows me or what > >You can't uninstall any version of Windows unless you have used an upgrade disk to >a newer version. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Friday, October 3, 2008 at 12:36 pm Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted) DanTheMan wrote: |ya you can look |http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272159 Ok then Dan, ME must be the only version you can do it. Why would you want to beats me? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Friday, October 3, 2008 at 2:14 pm Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) Windows ME is dumb, or at least the engineers were dumb. It doesn't know the difference between an upgrade from an older version of Windows and a repair reinstall of the same version. It will look like an upgrade to the Windows installers even though it is the same version. Therefore, in a repair install on Win 98 (ME is Win 98 by the way), the option to save uninstall files is useless since you were trying to repair Windows in the first place. You can delete the uninstall files. It isn't a whole Windows install anyway. It's just the old critical files, old drivers, reg files and other app files that may have been needed or changed before the new files were installed. All the uninstall does is dump those old files back into the repair install or more specifically, return your machine to it's previous state. It doesn't actually "replace" the whole repair install with the old original one. If you find that the repair install doesn't work right either, uninstalling the repair install won't solve anything and can fail anyway. In that case, you would have to start over and install clean.. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Friday, October 3, 2008 at 5:03 pm Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted) Thank you CK. There you have it Dan. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Tuesday, October 7, 2008 at 2:43 am Posted by DanTheMan (140 messages posted) well i cant do a clean install becasuse of people saying am a idiot so if i do this uninstall reapair install thing it will make my computer go back before the repair install [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Tuesday, October 7, 2008 at 8:31 am Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) Well, a lot of uninformed people make a lot of comments, but I have worked on thousands of computers since Windows 1.0. When the repair install came along, it was a nice feature because it did work a fair number of times. However, MS warns that it will not always be successful. Why?? Because no one can perform miracles and replace/repair data that the system may need which was added by user installed applications for instance, nor can it distingush between good data and bad data that needs to be added from the old install, to bring the users old install back to original status.. So sometimes, in my experience, a repair install will fail approx one third of the time. It just depends on what damage was done to the old install. Saving uninstall data is only useful for times when you are upgrading a "good" install from one version of Windows to another, say like Win 98 FE to SE, or SE to ME, or even Win 95 to Win 98 etc. Then it turns out that it doesn't work well with your hardware, or applications and/or other reasons so you want your old version of Windows back. Sometimes I will attempt a repair install to see if that fixes the problem only because it may spare me, or my customers the hassle of reinstalling all of their applications etc. If a repair install fails to fix the issues you were having, then you have no choice but to install clean and start over.. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 5:58 am Posted by DanTheMan (140 messages posted) so it will make my computer go back before the repair install but may cause probloms [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 8:38 am Posted by C K (6910 messages posted) If you had problems in the original install, you are restoring the original damaged install, so of course the original problems will return. At least in every case I have seen, and there are some cases where data corruption can happen when saving uninstall files, since all hardware produces errors but they are usually caught by the hardware's CRC error checks (HDD and optical devices aren't the only devices that have CRC checks, the motherboard does also).. When they aren't corrected, you get data corruption, and in those cases where the hardware is defective, that is probably what may have been causing your issues in the first place. Trying to "repair" an operating system if you have bad hardware, is then futile. In cases where the backup files for restore may be corrupt, you can restore a system and it may be damaged, even though it functioned correctly before you did the upgrade. I've seen that happen too.. Bottom line, MS doesn't gaurantee that any operation is 100% safe so you always need to backup irreplaceable data etc if possible before you try to do anything major to the system.. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 12:51 am Posted by DanTheMan (140 messages posted) well thanks mate the probloms i had before the repair install were not to bad so i wont mind to much going back to the old system On Wednesday, October 8, 2008 at 8:38 am, C K wrote: >If you had problems in the original install, you are restoring the original damaged >install, so of course the original problems will return. At least in every case >I have seen, and there are some cases where data corruption can happen when saving >uninstall files, since all hardware produces errors but they are usually caught by >the hardware's CRC error checks (HDD and optical devices aren't the only devices >that have CRC checks, the motherboard does also).. When they aren't corrected, you >get data corruption, and in those cases where the hardware is defective, that is >probably what may have been causing your issues in the first place. Trying to "repair" >an operating system if you have bad hardware, is then futile. In cases where the >backup files for restore may be corrupt, you can restore a system and it may be damaged, >even though it functioned correctly before you did the upgrade. I've seen that happen >too.. > >Bottom line, MS doesn't gaurantee that any operation is 100% safe so you always need >to backup irreplaceable data etc if possible before you try to do anything major >to the system.. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows me unimstall infomation Saturday, October 25, 2008 at 9:25 am Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) I have recommended the following simple precaution before, but no harm mentioning it once again. Before taking any action in regard to a possibly damaged Windows installation, first make a copy of the Windows folder (which is usually C:\WINDOWS) as C:\WINOLD Then whatever the install / upgrade / reinstall CD does will only affect the C:\WINDOWS folder, not the backup folder at C:\WINOLD. All of the old settings will be preserved in the backup folder you've created. So if the repair action goes wrong, or you just don't like what it achieves, you can restore your original settings by deleting the folder C:\WINDOWS and renaming C:\WINOLD to C:\WINDOWS in its place. Ed On Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 12:51 am, DanTheMan wrote: > >well thanks mate >the probloms i had before the repair install were not to bad so i wont mind to much >going back to the old system > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows Me Discussion Forum