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Built new pc; will not boot to Windows
Friday, April 10, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Barry (4 messages posted)

I just finished building a new PC (specs are below). First tried booting it to a hard-drive that came with an eMachines T2642. It would not boot to Windows, so I figured it had something to do with eMachines only Windows version incapable of running when hardware is replaced. So I bought a new hard-drive (Western Digital Caviar WD2500BB), ran fdisk and formatted it to FAT32. Installed Windows ME (the latest version of Windows that I have a full version disk). It appeared to install correctly, but having the same problem...keeps re-booting, will not boot to Windows. It first displays "No signal input", but the monitor is working (displaying everything after that message), the post data all appears to be ok, the Windows splash screen appears, but then it states that "Windows did not fully load on last attempt" and prompts me how to load. I tried loading in 'Safe Mode', still with the same result. Two things that I wonder about is either the monitor is not fully communicating with the PC (it is a refurbished I bought), even though it is displaying, or the graphics card is incompatible (though the motherboard manual did not give much information regarding the PCI-express compatibility). I tried booting with the onboard VGA, but nothing displayed on the monitor. I could find nothing in the BIOS to change to VGA display though. Specs: Biostar P4M900-M4 Motherboard Intel Celeron, Socket 478 Pentium 4 - 2.6GHz (original from eMachines T2642) XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX Video Card Western Digital WD2500BB IDE HDD - setup as Master IDE0 Western Digital WD400EB 40 GB IDE HDD - (original from eMachine) setup as slave IDE0 Sony CD-ROM/DVD-ROM CRX330E - setup as Master IDE1 NEC DVD+/-RW ND3530A - setup as Slave IDE1 19" Westinghouse L1916HW DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 2 - Kingston KVR667D2N5/2G 2GB DDR2 RAM PC2-5300 240-Pin DIMM memory modules (667 MHz) Windows ME

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re: Built new pc; will not boot to Windows
Friday, April 10, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Steve (23810 messages posted)

What I have been doing for for couple years now with a new build, is to Smoke test the PC with a Live Linux CD like Puppy Linux first. Will do some Web surfing for a Couple Hours, and see if any problems pop up. It is a good way to test Hardware since it only takes a couple Minutes to be up and running without actually installing anything.

My first guess is your Hardware itself can probably not run Windows ME to start with, you have to much Ram, a CPU that is rated faster then what a Windows 9x OS can run reliably, also Windows ME can not address all 250 gigs without risk of data loss, the max safe partition size would be 137 gigs.

Since the Motherboard uses ddr2 Ram it is pretty new, and that means Windows ME won't have many critical Motherboard Drivers for smooth sailing.

Probably a waste of time to try sorting out all the Problem with Windows ME anyway.

If you want to use Windows with the Hardware it should be at least XP would be my best guess.

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re: Built new pc; will not boot to Windows
Friday, April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Barry (4 messages posted)

Yes, I think you may be right about the incompatibility with Windows ME...I just noticed on the m'board manufacturers website (Biostar) this: "Support Windows 2000 / XP / XP 64" Before buying the new HD, I did try running the repair disc that came with eMachines and it stated that it could not find a Symantec Ghost file. And the disc does state that it will only work with an eMachine computer for which it was shipped. Based on the above statement on Biostar's site, do you think the Windows XP Media Center OEM disk would suffice?

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re: Built new pc; will not boot to Windows
Friday, April 10, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Steve (23810 messages posted)

If you already have a Windows XP Media Center disk, and product key then it should work. If you have not bought a XP CD yet, then I would get a regular XP Home, or Pro Disk.

The Media Center Disks really require additional Hardware to take advantage of them, a TV Tuner card, and Remote Control.

You can actually make a better media PC with a regular XP install Disk anyway, and are not tied down to the limitations of the Hardware that Windows Media Center uses.

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re: Built new pc; will not boot to Windows
Friday, April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Barry (4 messages posted)

Thanks Steve, I have never actually installed XP on a machine yet...would it require a boot disk to partition a larger HD than what comes with Windows ME...it appears Windows ME was only partitioning the 250 GB HD to 43 GB when I ran fdisk?

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re: Built new pc; will not boot to Windows
Friday, April 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Steve (23810 messages posted)

XP is easier to install, all the Partition tools are built into the CD. Set your CD rom to be first boot Device, and boot to the XP CD. At the first Partition screen it will see the Old Partiton you made. Delete it, then create a New one, then Format, then the Install starts.

Just read the Prompts carefully, don't have to hurry

Personally I always just make a small Partition for Windows, like 12 to 15 Gigs depending on how many Programs I might normally install. Then leave the rest of the Disk for Data storage. You can move the My Document Folders over for example to the Big Partition later on if you do that.

It make sense to keep your Data separated from Windows. A lot easier to back stuff up that way. If you do leave the rest of the disk as unallocated Space during the first part of the windows install, you can Partition it inside Windows with the Disk Management tools that XP has.

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re: Built new pc; will not boot to Windows
Friday, April 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Barry (4 messages posted)

Thanks again Steve...very helpful.

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Hardware compatible with Windows 9x
Sunday, April 12, 2009 at 10:25 am
Posted by Ed (741 messages posted)

Here is a link which might be of value to someone in a similar situation, that explains what hardware is required to run Windows 9x:

Hardware compatible with Windows 9x

Ed

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re: Hardware compatible with Windows 9x
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at 2:37 am
Posted by DanTheMan (140 messages posted)

msfn is a site for all os
but theres one place just for windows 9x member things
members make things like make you computer look like vista and how to run windows 
98/me with more then 512mb of ram and how programs to make windowsxp program run 
only
so you can go and post their they may be able to make your g card work and they can 
tell you how to make your ram amount work with win me






On Sunday, April 12, 2009 at 10:25 am, Ed wrote:
>Here is a link which might be of value to someone in a similar situation, that explains
>what hardware is required to run Windows 9x:
>
>Hardware
>compatible with Windows 9x

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>Ed

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re: Another Forum for older Windows OSes
Monday, May 25, 2009 at 2:25 am
Posted by Kiwi (2228 messages posted)

Anyone trying to register at that site right now is out of luck. The software for handling either the registration or the login is flaky, and one of them isn't referencing the other, so new registrations cannot get logged in after performing the verification step.

For a current software test, I would have liked a place to ask questions about NT4. Apparently MSFN won't be that place!

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Kiwi

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On Sunday, April 12, 2009 at 10:25 am, Ed wrote:
>Here is a link which might be of value to someone in a similar situation, that explains
>what hardware is required to run Windows 9x:
>
>Hardware
>compatible with Windows 9x

>
>Ed

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re: Another Forum for older Windows OSes
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 10:55 am
Posted by Kiwi (2228 messages posted)

MSFN hasn't repaired their software, nor has the contact eMail addressee replied to a pair of queries. Meanwhile, the prospects of NT4 being useful for my purposes seem rather dim now.

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Kiwi

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On Monday, May 25, 2009 at 2:25 am, Kiwi wrote:
>Anyone trying to register at that site right now is out of luck. The software for
>handling either the registration or the login is flaky, and one of them isn't referencing
>the other, so new registrations cannot get logged in after performing the verification
>step.
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>For a current software test, I would have liked a place to ask questions about NT4.
> Apparently MSFN won't be that place!
>
>
>
>

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>Kiwi

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