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Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
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Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 9, 2007 at 7:59 am
Posted by Lucy
(3 messages posted)
I just bought a new laptop with Vista installed and found that Vista does not support
the programs I bought the computer to use. I would very much like to remove Vista
and install XP instead, as it serves my purposes much better.
I have another laptop that has XP installed, and if there is a way I can transfer
the data without having to buy a new XP software package, that would be plus, but
I am willing to buy it if I have to. I feel it is worth noting that my older laptop's
disc drive no longer functions, and this is my main motivation in replacing it with
the new machine.
I'm not terribly good at this sort of thing, but if there is a way that I can do
this myself without having to go back to the store where I just bought it, it would
be a huge relief.
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 9, 2007 at 8:37 am
Posted by Jumpy Geathers
(13 messages posted)
I don't have an answer for you, but I'm curious which programs you're having a hard
time with. Most programs I've run have no problems. I'm waiting on a few updates,
but nothing too bad.
On Friday, February 9, 2007 at 7:59 am, Lucy wrote:
>I just bought a new laptop with Vista installed and found that Vista does not support
>the programs I bought the computer to use. I would very much like to remove Vista
>and install XP instead, as it serves my purposes much better.
>
>I have another laptop that has XP installed, and if there is a way I can transfer
>the data without having to buy a new XP software package, that would be plus, but
>I am willing to buy it if I have to. I feel it is worth noting that my older laptop's
>disc drive no longer functions, and this is my main motivation in replacing it with
>the new machine.
>
>I'm not terribly good at this sort of thing, but if there is a way that I can do
>this myself without having to go back to the store where I just bought it, it would
>be a huge relief.
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 9, 2007 at 8:55 am
Posted by Dan Sarandrea, MCSE
(6749 messages posted)
If you are within the return period allowed by the store, retailer, or manufacturer,
your best solution IMO is to return the laptop and then purchase one that has XP
installed.
If the laptop came with Vista Business or Vista Ultimate, the End User Licensing
Agreement for those two products gives you OEM "downgrade rights," which means you
are allowed to use XP Pro or XP Tablet Edition on the laptop you purchased in place
of the Vista that came with it. (You DO NOT have downgrade rights with Vista Home
Basic or Premium.) In order to take advantage of these downgrade rights, you would
have to acquire the media (CD) for XP Pro or XP Tablet Edition on your own. If your
old computer had XP Pro or Tablet Edition, you could try to use the old computer's
CDs to install it on your new laptop, but in most cases that will not work.
Or, you could contact the manufacturer and ask if they can supply you with the recovery
CD for XP Pro or Tablet Edition that would work with your laptop, which you could
then install under your downgrade rights.
If you do install XP Pro or Tablet on the new laptop, the copy of Vista that came
with the computer cannot be used in the meantime on any other computer, but of course
it can always be used on the computer it came with.
Assuming that the old laptop came with XP preinstalled from the manufacturer (OEM
license), the license for XP that came with your old laptop is tied to the old laptop
and cannot be transferred to any other computer.
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 9, 2007 at 11:28 am
Posted by Archie
(16 messages posted)
Do Not know why anyone would want to go backwards: vista will run just about any
old programs just ensure that you set the properties of your program to run as XP
or win 98or win95 the only one I cannot run is cadrfile from Win 3x
On Friday, February 9, 2007 at 8:37 am, Jumpy Geathers wrote:
>I don't have an answer for you, but I'm curious which programs you're having a hard
>time with. Most programs I've run have no problems. I'm waiting on a few updates,
>but nothing too bad.
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>
>
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 9, 2007 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Lucy
(3 messages posted)
I tried changing the compatibility to XP on the properties of all the programs (Sims2
and it's expansion packs are not Vista compatible), but it did not help, and the
programs would not run properly.
I did this on the advice of the EA Games website, which offered no further solution.
It really is a shame, for I actually do like Vista, it looks like it probably is
a great improvement from XP, but since I bought the laptop primarily to play games
(since my other laptop's disc drive will not function), this conflict has me reluctantly
needing to switch.
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 9, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Lucy
(3 messages posted)
Thank you so much for your helpful response. I'm afraid the version I have is the
home version, so I guess there really isn't anything I can do without downgrade rights.
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 9, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Dan Sarandrea, MCSE
(6749 messages posted)
Are you still within the return period?
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Randy Alexander
(2 messages posted)
Point of Information: There are not many retailers with more than display units left
with XP. Manufacturers stopped shipping XP right after the first of the year and
retailers sold out. I guess the extra month added on to the fourth quarter's model
sales awaiting Vista release confused the buyers. Retailers order models on a quarterly
basis as they change every 13 weeks. Adding a month (Jan.) to the fourth Qtr of '06
was probably too hard to figure.
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Wednesday, February 14, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Kevin
(1 messages posted)
I would not go backwards to a 5 year old operating system. There are some applications
that you will have to upgrade like Nero unless you are running 7.0 and also DVD player
software. Anti-virus is also going to have to be upgraded.Are you aware that there
is a backware compatibility freature in Vista just like Xp? I would try and install
the applications in compatibility mode and see if they work then. You are going to
have to upgrade sometine anyway so why not now?
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Friday, February 23, 2007 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Apache
(2 messages posted)
Get a copy of SpinRite (official site: www.grc.com) and run it on your old computer
to restore the old HDD. (99.9% guarenteed to restore you HDD, I've used this program
after covering a HDD in isoproponel and setting fire to it then putting it out by
sticking it in a bucket of water then throwing it against the wall to dry it out,
it worked perfectly after using this program on it. I only did this as an experiment
to see just how powerful SpinRite actually is.)
Then use an imaging program like Norton Ghost or better still a multicasting Hard
Drive Imager (although both computers will need to be on a network for this to work.
It will take about 10 mins per gig on muticast and between 1 - 3 hours per gig on
standard Imaging software.
All terms not understood on here can be found on www.wikipedia.org, it's 4am and
that explains the terms a lot better than I can at this time!
Once the imaging is complete you will have 2 fully functional, identical computers.
All that remains is the final tweaks, i.e. updating drivers that will be needed
for the new computer. If it is a severe upgrade you may need to start in Safe Mode
first to get the display drivers sorted out and the resolution set. It may be worth
jotting down your computer specs to refer to when getting any additional drivers
that need to be installed. Windows may have a field day the first time it loads
as it will expect everything to be there from the old computer. Other than this
first 10 mins or so afterwards, imaging is by far the best way to do what you want
to do.
If you are using a fully legal retail version of XP *coughyeahwhatevercough* then
if the specs between old and new computer differ drastically you may need to contact
Microsoft for a new product key as it uses information from the PC itself to create
the key.
btw, is the problem you are having with games like World Of Warcraft, if so I'd imagine
you are using Intel Shared Graphics memory. At present time there is a conflict
between Vista's Intel Shared Drivers and many of the MMORPG and Web Based Games Engines.
This is being looked into by all companies involved as a priority issue and will
hopefully be fixed soon.
On Wednesday, February 14, 2007 at 1:50 pm, Kevin wrote:
>I would not go backwards to a 5 year old operating system. There are some applications
>that you will have to upgrade like Nero unless you are running 7.0 and also DVD
player
>software. Anti-virus is also going to have to be upgraded.Are you aware that there
>is a backware compatibility freature in Vista just like Xp? I would try and install
>the applications in compatibility mode and see if they work then. You are going
to
>have to upgrade sometine anyway so why not now?
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re: Replacing Vista with XP on new laptop
Saturday, March 3, 2007 at 7:29 am
Posted by Richard Harris
(243 messages posted)
The simplest solution is really to return the PC and get one with XP installed.
But, if you really want to do it yourself: (1) completely erase the hard drive of
the new PC, using something like FDISK or the DELPART option of the XP recovery console
(run from a set of several floppies available free from Microsoft, or run form an
XP CD), (2) buy a copy of XP and install it.
But, be warned, the XP CD may not have all the drivers you need to make the PC work.
XP is several years old and the PC hardware is new. If the default drivers in XP
do not work well enough to boot the PC, you might be stuck. If they do get it to
boot, then you can try windows update to get newer drivers. As a precaution you
might want to download XP drivers for the PC, before you start erasing things. Such
drivers would come from the PC maker. Copy them to CD or some other easily accessed
place. Maybe even place them on a second partition on the hard drive.
Note that if the PC has a serial ATA hard drive (or RAID or SCSI), you will need
to have drivers for the motherboard's disk controller available on a floppy, and
nowhere else, as the XP installer is too stupid to offer the option to look for these
anywhere else.
On Friday, February 9, 2007 at 7:59 am, Lucy wrote:
>I just bought a new laptop with Vista installed and found that Vista does not support
>the programs I bought the computer to use. I would very much like to remove Vista
>and install XP instead, as it serves my purposes much better.
>
>I have another laptop that has XP installed, and if there is a way I can transfer
>the data without having to buy a new XP software package, that would be plus, but
>I am willing to buy it if I have to. I feel it is worth noting that my older laptop's
>disc drive no longer functions, and this is my main motivation in replacing it with
>the new machine.
>
>I'm not terribly good at this sort of thing, but if there is a way that I can do
>this myself without having to go back to the store where I just bought it, it would
>be a huge relief.
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