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re: windows vista made a shameful crime Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 6:57 am Posted by Dan Sarandrea, MCSE (6749 messages posted) Would you care to be more specific about the technical problems you are having? (I don't know about others, but I'm really not interested in your views on crime and punishment.) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows vista made a shameful crime Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 9:18 am Posted by flexigirl (1 messages posted) disable the user account control and you will have a much more enjoyable vista experience. [Reply or follow-up to this message] Bad advice! Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 10:06 am Posted by Dan Sarandrea, MCSE (6749 messages posted) User Account Control is the single most effective security advance engineered into Vista. It is bad advice (IMHO) to tell people to disable it. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 2:21 pm Posted by flexigirl (31 messages posted) if your an imbecile and dont know what your doing then sure. For those that are a little bit tech savvy its nothing but a hinderence. In time you will find the majority of users will have it disabled. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 5:02 pm Posted by Adam W. (1 messages posted) I agree. I had UAC on and downloaded a trojan to test Vista. Windows Live One Care didn't detect the Torjan and the only thing that UAC said is "are you sure you want to open the file?" as it does with any exe. Of course I want to open the file, I clicked it. It's not like UAC told me "are you sure you want to open this virus?" None of this helped me with detecting or stopped me from getting infected with the trojan. I will admit a complete scan with Windows LIVE one care found some of the trojan and spyware this file installed, but it couldn't clean it. I finally downloaded Kaspersy and it seemed to do the trick. It's just a shame the Kaspersky seems to be a resource hog as well if you leave it running as a process. On Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 2:21 pm, flexigirl wrote: >if your an imbecile and dont know what your doing then sure. > >For those that are a little bit tech savvy its nothing but a hinderence. > >In time you will find the majority of users will have it disabled. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows vista made a shameful crime Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 5:56 pm Posted by Steve (19683 messages posted) Jail, pretty silly. Try Linux for a week, and you crawl back to Windows. With Linux you can't even install a new program without typing in your administrator password, and click on a half dozen other prompts, only to find out the program won't install, because of 3 or 4 dependency problems.:) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 1:38 pm Posted by Dave (4 messages posted) If you're not an imbecile, and have any amount of "tech savvy" you would be using OSX or Linux. Silly Windows users..when will you ever learn? :) On Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 2:21 pm, flexigirl wrote: >if your an imbecile and dont know what your doing then sure. > >For those that are a little bit tech savvy its nothing but a hinderence. > >In time you will find the majority of users will have it disabled. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows vista made a shameful crime Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 1:43 pm Posted by Dave (4 messages posted) Steve, I don't know what Linux distro you're using but I never had such problems with Ubuntu..and anyway, I run OSX with the ability to run virtualize or dual boot any version of Windows or Linux I'd care to. And OSX's admin prompts are only for critical system changes. Windows is junk, and just wait until 10.5 Leopard comes out in the next couple months and completely overshadows Vista in features and usability! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 2:27 pm Posted by flexigirl (31 messages posted) The issue at hand was about cpu usage and how many clicks it took to do a simple job, not about the personal choice of operating system. Incidently linux is hardly user friendly to the average user plus your very limited by what software you can actually run even when you can name alternatives. Bash gates software all you like, it has market share for good reason despite its flaws. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows vista made a shameful crime Friday, February 23, 2007 at 11:17 am Posted by Steve (19683 messages posted) The last two Linux Distros I have had installed are several Versions of Suse, and a couple years back was using Redhat. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Friday, February 23, 2007 at 12:50 pm Posted by Larry (1298 messages posted) Correct. About fifteen to twenty years ago some tech observer prophetically noted: "The roadside is litered with the corpses of would be Microsoft killers." It's still true today. Apple has always languished at five to eight percent of the PC market, and if they didn't have the iPod and iTunes today they would be on oxygen now or probably dead. Linux will stay a geek oddity as far as the desktop goes, though it will continue to find pretty wide usage as a highly customized OS for embedded applications in cell phones and the like and some servers too. I predict that if we're still around in twenty more years the landscape will be pretty much the same IMHO... On Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 2:27 pm, flexigirl wrote: > > >The issue at hand was about cpu usage and how many clicks it took to do a simple >job, not about the personal choice of operating system. > >Incidently linux is hardly user friendly to the average user plus your very limited >by what software you can actually run even when you can name alternatives. > >Bash gates software all you like, it has market share for good reason despite its >flaws. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Saturday, February 24, 2007 at 3:43 pm Posted by Dave (4 messages posted) Incorrect. OSX doesn't depend on iTunes/iPod although it helped its market share with the average user. It has a huge following in a lot of creative markets, and education. People have never had a choice, going back to the original post..Microsoft has always monopolized markets with products such as Internet Explorer and has never really improved the user experience. Vista copies a lot of good ideas from OSX and is better than XP in that way, but it still is immitating not innovating. I had never touched OSX till this year but I'll never go back now. OSX is a lot more intuitive as far as design, it doesn't crash nearly as often (I've had programs freeze rarely but never an entire OS crash) and there are plenty of programs out there to do whatever you'd be doing on a Windows computer. Plus, you can't run OSX on a Windows machine, but you can run Windows on an OSX machine..'nuff said. And by the way, apparently the answer to "when will you ever learn" is never. Oh well, have fun with Windows..without it I wouldn't have a job (I work in tech support..lol) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Thursday, March 8, 2007 at 5:53 pm Posted by WylM5 (3 messages posted) Dave, Actually you are incorrect. MS has dominated for better or worse just as Larry had stated. No one would say that IPOD doesn't dominate the "MP3" market and MS holds about that market share in the OS world. Larry did not state that OSX needs ITunes or IPOD. He did mention that Apple would be in trouble without them to bring in needed monies. I don't know if Apple would be "on the brink" if they didn't have them but I know for sure they are better off financially with them. That's a good thing of course. I wonder why so many MAC users are so angry at Windows users? I guess it is because MAC feels the need to attack Windows in it's adds. I guess they just want to be sure that they made the right choice and feel the need to put down anything else. I see this often in people who buy IPOD's (I own one to) they seem to have the need to put down ANYTHING else. I mean I really like my IPOD but please...it is no where near as all powerful as many owners make it to be. Just go out and try the Toshiba Gigabeat S and you will see what is a superior player in every aspect EXCEPT 3rd party support (The reason I own a IPOD). So yes I use Windows because it has more support from well....everyone even though it is inferior to OSX. I choose IPOD over the Toshiba player because of the existing support even though it is inferior to it. At least Windows PC's are cheaper...in the IPOD case I have to dish out extra to get the inferior product. So please Dave, keep up the tech support for us poor little Windows users because as you say if we didn't thousands of techies would have no job because OSX doesn't need any tech support. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Sunday, March 11, 2007 at 5:13 pm Posted by Dave (4 messages posted) I don't really understand your point here, and I don't "attack" Windows users..I'm just making a friendly suggestion that you switch because it would lessen your frustration. OSX has excellent support thru AppleCare and there is quite a community of dedicated mac users who are always willing to help sort through problems. iPod is a godsend to Apple and is their cashcow that supports the rest of the company, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying OSX is a superior OS in usability and security, and can virtualize all other OS's (Vista, XP, Linux). It's really just a matter of preference, so it's not as if I care..but I don't see many good reasons for sticking with Windows. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Bad advice! Sunday, March 11, 2007 at 9:29 pm Posted by WylM5 (3 messages posted) Dave, The point of my prior post is that your solution to the problem is to switch OS. You are of little help to anyone here. It's as laughable as me going to a OSX site and telling anyone with problems to switch to Vista or XP. People who are on this site generally know that OSX exists, they are not that ignorant and really don't need a MAC vs PC commercial type help giving blanket statements that OSX is better than a MS xxxx. I liken your posts to those on gamer forums where some fanboy of 360/PS3/Wii goes onto another forum and spews out the virtues of their system over another. It really doesn't contribute jack to the content. Me I love that there is MS. I love that other companies like Apple are around to push them to make things better. Vista was influenced by OSX and is a better OS (some would debate that statement) because of it, as is IE7 due to FireFox(the best browser IMHO). So please stop calling Windows "Junk", stop saying ridiculous fanboy statements like "10.5 Leopard" is going to completely dominate Vista (may be perfectly true, but how the heck would you know?). 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